Russia v Ukraine

[JasonACT]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Very scary where we this is heading. Very nazi like.

Having lived there for a number of years, I'd be very disappointed if there was no opposition to this policy, either in gov or by the public. Disappointed but not surprised given the coverage.

‘Not an issue for Wimbledon’: All England club set to ban Medvedev
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tenn...05-p5aaub.html

Nah, nazi's do bad stuff, these guys are choosing to not do bad stuff.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Very scary where we this is heading. Very nazi like.

Having lived there for a number of years, I'd be very disappointed if there was no opposition to this policy, either in gov or by the public. Disappointed but not surprised given the coverage.

‘Not an issue for Wimbledon’: All England club set to ban Medvedev
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tenn...05-p5aaub.html

Don't know how you associate the word Nazi to those comments, try associating "Woke"

Cheers.

[JasonACT]

In case anyone didn't watch the Qi episode that mentioned Nazis...

The lifecycle of a QI script

Nazis never called themselves Nazis (courtesy of eggshaped) – and why would they, I suppose? The name’s got some pretty negative connotations, after all.

Which I take to mean, a description of... people who do bad stuff.

[T3rminator]

Woke is banning the letter Z. This is next level.

They are civilians who happen to play sport for a living. You've already removed their flag, their nationality...whats next? Round them all up and make them pledge allegiance or else ostracise them? Looks like that's where its heading.

Have met many Russians (and Ukranians for that matter) when I was living there. They are some of the best people I've met in my travels. This is not their doing.

[JasonACT]

Sign the document, play tennis.

Still not Nazis.

[marty351]

This may help clarify the mentality in this part of the world...

https://youtu.be/f8ZqBLcIvw0

[JasonACT]

Since the intro to that video concluded 2 out of 3 men had issues with hair-loss, I closed that video fairly quickly, since I've seemingly not got an issue there. Was there something else in it that was of any importance?

[Citroënbender]

I have to say, that Steve Poland chap might be a handy tote for Ukraine.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Since the intro to that video concluded 2 out of 3 men had issues with hair-loss, I closed that video fairly quickly, since I've seemingly not got an issue there. Was there something else in it that was of any importance?

When you fast forward the ad, yes.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

The “slime” posting pro Russian rubbish here should go live in Russia, then they could enjoy the good life.

Good on you comrades.

I have lived in Russia.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Very scary where we this is heading. Very nazi like.

Having lived there for a number of years, I'd be very disappointed if there was no opposition to this policy, either in gov or by the public. Disappointed but not surprised given the coverage.

‘Not an issue for Wimbledon’: All England club set to ban Medvedev
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tenn...05-p5aaub.html

British royal family are of germanic descent.


The Mountbatten family is a British dynasty that originated as an English branch of the German princely Battenberg family. The name was adopted on 14 July 1917, just three days before the British royal family had its name changed to Windsor, by members of the Battenberg family residing in the United Kingdom, due to rising anti-German sentiment amongst the British public during World War I.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten_family

[Mulva]

Darth Putin's twitter often brings a lighter side to what is a very **** situation of unnecessary death, destruction and despair.

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

How it works with events like #Bucha
1. It never happened.
2. They were all Nazis so deserved what didn't happen
3. They were crisis actors
4. What didn't happen to all the Nazis who deserved it/crisis actors who pretended was on the site of a biolab.
5. What about Iraq

Repeat.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Mulva

Darth Putin's twitter often brings a lighter side to what is a very **** situation of unnecessary death, destruction and despair.

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

Yawn....Twitter crap

[T3rminator]

Reporter on the ground in Mariupol interviewing residents. Hear the full story, not just 3 second snippets.

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by zilo

Yawn....Twitter crap

Reckon maybe the war was rigged? It was stolen from Putin?

[Cav]

Lt Gen Cloutier commander of NATO’s Allied Land Command....
Captured or dead?
Big call
See the last para

Things are about to become interesting. NATO officers stuck in Mariupol.
Map of military operations and the situation on the fronts on the evening of April 6
Kirill Gromov today at 01:00
Current map of military operations for the past day



Today's military agenda began with the fact that it became known about the battle that occurred yesterday on the Russian-Ukrainian border (between the Sumy and Kursk regions). Positions of Russian border guards fired from mortars in Sudzhansky district.

"The return fire of the Russian border guards suppressed the firing points. There are no casualties and destruction on our part," said the governor of the region Roman Starovoit.

Also today, the Ministry of Defense held big briefing concerning our soldiers in captivity.

"Russian servicemen in Ukraine are subjected to torture, violence, bullying, which, by their inhumanity, copy the actions of the punishers during the Second World War, and all this is widely distributed on the Internet and the media," the ministry said.

Southern Front. The Ukrainian side reports on the battles on the border of Mykolaiv and Dnipropetrovsk regions. They also claim about some "surrounded Russians in the Kherson region" who are offered to surrender (a good proposal, given the attitude of the Nazis to prisoners) and an offensive in this direction is announced. In fact, there are no encircled Russians in the villages of the Kherson region. Moreover, today we received confirmation that Arestovich's recent statement that the Russian army is leaving the Mykolaiv region was a lie. Today we received photo evidence of how another convoy with humanitarian aid arrived in Snigirevka, Mykolaiv region, with the support of the Armed Forces of Russia. 20 tons of food and 8 thousand liters of bottled water were delivered. Ukrainian soldiers standing at checkpoints to the west intimidate local residents: "We will soon enter and cut out all the s**k."

Obviously, we are standing quite tightly in this direction, but there is no continuous front line, as such. All attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to either do something in this direction are defeated, bringing heavy losses.

Eastern Front. Following calls for the evacuation of civilians from the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk and Lisichansk agglomerations, preparations for evacuation from the Dnipropetrovsk region were announced. Along the way, we see the replenishment and operation of new equipment in the Severodonetsk direction and in other places.
Here there are battles everywhere: in Rubezhnoye mopping up the industrial zone, in Popasnaya in urban development. The LPR also reports that they stormed the 29th checkpoint (the position became known for the entire period of the war in the Donbas - for the 29th and 31st checkpoints, battles were fought since the end of 2014).

The raisins were again under fire from Ukrainian rocket artillery today. Again, "cassettes" burst over the city center. Russian troops are advancing towards Barvenkovo and Slavyansk, in this direction they have occupied the village of Brazhkovka, Malaya Kamyshevakha with battles and are repelling counterattacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. High-precision missiles struck an important railway junction in Lozova for supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine - a large accumulation of foreign-made equipment was destroyed. From Ugledar to Gorlovka, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are advancing slowly, but surely. APU again shelled peaceful areas Donetsk and Kharkiv region. A school in Donetsk and a residential quarter in Makiivka were affected.

Mariupol. The center of Mariupol, as well as other boilers, are being cleaned up. The Russian flag flies over the building of the regional SBU. Azov militants and other neo-Nazis are being pushed back to the embankment and the seaport. In the evening, photos of the ship of the "Donbass" of the Ukrainian Navy, smoking after the strikes, appeared.

Interestingly, it is reported that there are NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden in Mariupol at Azovstal. They, it seems, even tried to negotiate with our forces through intermediaries to provide them with an evacuation corridor. Right now, there is unconfirmed evidence that the Russian army has captured the commander of NATO ground forces, Lieutenant General Roger L. Clottier, near Mariupol. Other sources report his death, the United States and NATO have not yet commented.

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by Cav

Interestingly, it is reported that there are NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and "neutral" Sweden in Mariupol at Azovstal. They, it seems, even tried to negotiate with our forces through intermediaries to provide them with an evacuation corridor. Right now, there is unconfirmed evidence that the Russian army has captured the commander of NATO ground forces, Lieutenant General Roger L. Clottier, near Mariupol. Other sources report his death, the United States and NATO have not yet commented.

I thought the guy himself has commented and said it is completely false, and posted pictures of himself in Turkey. Guess these could have been posted by anyone and the pics taken earlier?

https://www.facebook.com/LANDCOMNATO...43450781143841

https://archive.ph/Yl5Ft

[Mulva]

With evidence continuing to confirm the war crimes committed by the Russian invaders that were forced to retreat from Bucha, it is good to know those ruthless, soulless pricks are a minority and there are many Russians that refuse to participate - either on moral grounds or simply through self-preservation as they are being sent to slaughter.

https://mediazona.online/article/2022/04/06/ombudsman

There are constant reports that servicemen and employees of the National Guard refuse to go to fight in Ukraine. Some of them are assisted by lawyer Maxim Grebenyuk, the author of the Military Ombudsman publication. He explained why, without a declaration of martial law and in the absence of a written order, it is impossible to initiate a criminal case for such a refusal, but you can be dismissed from service - this is what happens (“Mediazona” knows, for example, that in one of the regions a draft order for dismissal was immediately received by 500 Russian Guardsmen who refused to fight).

During the month and a half of the war, there have already been reports that the military or employees of the Russian Guard refuse to participate in hostilities on the territory of Ukraine.

For example, in early February, Farid Chitav, a platoon commander of the Plastun OMON operational company, and 11 of his subordinates underwent the Zaslon-2022 exercise in Crimea, and on February 25, the command suggested that they go to Ukraine. The National Guardsmen replied that it was illegal. Then they were returned to Krasnodar, and after an official check they were fired. All riot police filed lawsuits for wrongful dismissal, but later nine of them withdrew their complaints.

On March 12, the Ukrainian edition of "Grati" wrote that about 80 Russian conscripts and contract soldiers from among the marines refused to fight - they ended up in a combat zone in the Kherson region, some were under mortar fire, after which many wrote a report refusing to participate in the "special operation ".

At the end of March, part of the contract soldiers of the 4th Guards military base in Tskhinval, where both Russians and residents of the self-proclaimed South Ossetia serve , refused to fight. About 300 people returned to the republic from Ukraine. This was probably due to the fact that one of the soldiers was blown up by a mine, and the general forbade taking his body.

On April 4, it became known that even at the beginning of the war, 11 riot policemen from Khakassia refused to participate in the battles - they were also on exercises in the west of Russia and in Belarus, from ammunition they had only tools to suppress protests - shields and batons - while they hit under fire from heavy weapons. Seven were injured, one was missing, according to the local newspaper Novy Focus.

Finally, today Pskovskaya Guberniya wrote about 60 military men who, after the first days of the war, were taken to Belarus, after which they returned to their place of deployment - to Pskov. Now most of them are fired, and some are threatened with criminal charges.

What threat such refusals threaten, whether the military and employees of the Russian Guard can be fired or a criminal case, Mediazona decided to discuss with Maxim Grebenyuk, the author of the Military Ombudsman public service, which advises those who do not want to fight.

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Mulva

I thought the guy himself has commented and said it is completely false, and posted pictures of himself in Turkey. Guess these could have been posted by anyone and the pics taken earlier?

https://www.facebook.com/LANDCOMNATO...43450781143841

https://archive.ph/Yl5Ft

Gee I must have posted some Russian misinformation

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by Cav

Gee I must have posted some Russian misinformation

Possibly, but don't beat yourself up over it if you did it in good faith - bound to happen when there is so much propaganda.

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Mulva

Possibly, but don't beat yourself up over it if you did it in good faith - bound to happen when there is so much propaganda.

Like you, I had seen the reports that it was false.

I think it is important to see what both sides are saying, without judgement

[Polyal]

Not sure how people over in little ol Oz can think they have any idea of what is going on in that region in real time or even slightly current.

Think of the crap our media spouts and then translate it over there and back again...

[burnz]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Just heard the latest Scott Ritter interview discussing the Bucha claims. Its on YT, but he was being interviewed by RT.

He presents a good logical analysis. Reckons that the bodies should be made available to UN war crime investigators, who can then conduct medical forensics. Apparently they will be able to tell things like time of death, cause of death, whether body has been tampered with etc. He thinks its all BS. Will be interesting to see if this what Russia will request for at the UN Security Council.

The general was immediately silenced.. for pointing out a false flag.
3RD time in a row..

[blue sleeper]

I'm surprised this thread is still open. Even the title is misleading, was Russia invades Ukraine already used?

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Not sure how people over in little ol Oz can think they have any idea of what is going on in that region in real time or even slightly current.

Think of the crap our media spouts and then translate it over there and back again...

You got it mate...some of us are skeptical cause of all the BS we have been fed.

Russians are eating babies and raping grandmothers and ripping babies out of incubtors.

Anyone remember the Iraqi animals who did that in Kuwait?

This is a good read...

https://citizentruth.org/fake-news-1...-war-sympathy/

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Mulva

Reckon maybe the war was rigged? It was stolen from Putin?

Huh? Got no idea what you are on about

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by zilo

Anyone remember the Iraqi animals who did that in Kuwait?

got no idea who your talking bout !
not that youve bashed on bout the same "i hate usa" crap in every post

yeh we get it its ok that russia is doing this cause some one has done bad things some where in the past , so russia can have a free ticket on this one , and yes russia had NO other choice they were bated in to this and right the wrongs that might come there way by leaving their country to put a stop to things prier it reaching them

wait ill finish this latter , ive some business with a neighbor ive need to pull in to line as i dont like the way hes doing things next door
im just going to go and saintly physically but non violently show him my the true way

[Fordman1]

It’s funny how the Trump Wack-Jobs are the pro-Putin Wack-Jobs too.

I’m tipping they are QAnon Wack-Jobs also.

[xkxlxm]

Incubators ... Kuwaiti hospital/s. First Gulf War. US members of congress needed convincing that the US should intervene and kick the Iraqis out of Kuwait. A Kuwaiti woman - might have had connections to the Kuwaiti rulers; not sure - addressed congress and claimed that Iraqi soldiers had taken babies from incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital/hospitals to take the incubators back to Iraq.

That pulled all the right heart strings, did the trick and congress agreed to US invasion.

Story later proven to be false.

[LG17]

Gotta give it to the Ruskies. This is their line at the UN - "We reject the untruthful allegations against us, based on staged events and widely circulated fakes."


Did they learn from Trump or did he learn from them?