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He’s an outsider, and seems to show - compared to public expectation - a disrespect for the notion of “Australianness” that people still append to Qantas.
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First day of Spring
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2. He changed many permanent full time jobs to contract work, reducing pay for the staff who had to reapply for their jobs. 3. He reduced staff benefits. 4. He allowed service levels to deteriorate all over the place. Late and cancelled flights as well as the flights that had to turn back after several hours due to mechanical issues. 5. He cried poor during COVID, convinced the government to shore up the company with public funding, and now, when declaring a big profit, is refusing to reimburse the public purse with any of the money. 6. He oversaw a scheme to sell tickets on cancelled flights and now the ACCC is threatening to hit QANTAS with huge fines. What’s wrong with any of that, you say? He was just doing his job to reduce operating costs and boost profits? Well, while he was doing all that he was increasing his own pay and benefits to ridiculous levels, way beyond what many other CEOs earn. Others had to make the sacrifice, not him. And now that the ACCC is coming after QANTAS, he is heading for the door, but not before he awards himself another $10M in shares. https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...01-p5e198.html The whole QANTAS board ought to follow him out the door. I don’t work for QANTAS or own any of their shares. I just don’t like CEOs like him.
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This should probably go in the music thread, but my week has been terrible, this is probably the only thing I have felt good about..........
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Fair enough. But some of those things don't appear to be unique to Qantas or Joyce specifically and I don't see the same level of dislike for other organisations or specific CEOs.
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And, again, he doesn't award himself shares. I think what you'll find is that he has sold shares that he earned as being the CEO over the last 15 years. And those shares would have been apportioned to him in accordance with his remuneration package endorsed by the board. Your perogative to not like him. It just seems to me that he is targeted unlike a lot of other CEOs. Is this tall poppy syndrome? I'm not sure.
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Is it because he is in the news more than other CEOs? Is it because his personal traits run people up the wrong way? All of the above added up?
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As an example, in this article, Joyce is the 39th top earning Australian CEO. Granted, the article is from 2022 so that list may have changed, but the point remains that it can't JUST be the remuneration packet, right? Otherwise there'd be 38 others in front of him earning the focus. https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers...0221205-p5c3o6
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Surely you are just spruiking the leprechaun to get a rise outta us??
The “man” is an absolute bloody disgrace and an embarrassment to the (once great) Australian aviation sector full stop! Under his leadership Qantas is a damn shambles… Ask any ex Qantas pilots, any ex Qantas baggage staff, or any ex (highly skilled) Qantas maintenance staff? Ask anyone waiting for their (fraudulently obtained) cancelled flight refunds? If he wasn’t in Albo’s hip pocket, he’d be in bloody gaol… Where the little maggot belongs!!
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And now the little leprechaun is going to get another highly paid bonus for his departure, this does not pass the pub test. Last edited by Itsme; 02-09-2023 at 02:12 PM. |
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I just don't see why he is targeted so much as opposed to a lot of other large company CEOs and was interested to understand why those on here felt it was justified. I like to understand why people act and say the things they do. Maybe I should have a psychologist rather than an engineer? But, there really isn't much difference to me; as an engineer I try and find why a piece of machinery acted like it did or didn't as the case may be. A psychologist just does that with humans. Anyway, to show I'm not just after a rise, I'm gonna bug out as I'm not here to wind people up and I've got an insight into people's thoughts. Thanks for those who were prepared to share. Quote:
Back on to topic, the weather here today is a cracker. Having hot dogs for lunch. A classic spring meal for me. Especially around gf day! Haven't had them in ages.
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Congrats. Gramps!
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Qantas, on the other hand, received $900M and despite being called out several times, Joyce has refused. When it was recently suggested to Joyce that some of the money should be repaid, he implied the employees should repay it. To quote from the following article: https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/...back-jobkeeper “Qantas directors have discussed whether the airline should pay back some of the almost $900 million the company claimed in JobKeeper benefits during the pandemic, as a circuit-breaker to stabilise the collapse in its reputation. Both the board and Qantas’s outgoing chief executive, Alan Joyce, have previously taken a hard line against calls for the airline to refund any of the Covid-19 assistance funds. Last week, Joyce even implied paying back JobKeeper would have to come directly from his employees. Should our people who got the money for JobKeeper pay that back? And you’d say no,” he told 7.30 host Sarah Ferguson. “All of that money went for particular reasons.” Quote:
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Let's agree to disagree on some of those points and move on to things that make us happy and leave the things that annoy us for the appropriate thread, eh?
![]() First weekend of spring and we had a glorious day here. That made me happy.
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I was able to get back down to the shed and do some work on repairing the neighbours training sulky. The doc has had me housebound for the last 5 weeks.
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My son came over at 8am and did a cook up for breakfast with squeezed orange's off the tree and percolated coffee.
That's a good Fathers Day kick off.
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My father was diagnosed with cancer 4 years ago. He is still with us for another Father's Day today.
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Daughter came over this morning for a Fathers day BBQ.
Her idea, but she doesnt eat meat, so she had a giant mushy, a tomato and salads and me and the missus had that plus bacon, sausage, chicken and eggs 😄 Trying to show her the way. Lovely morning, need more like it. |
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Put in some solid work hours Sunday, started with a weed spraying job ahead of Tuesday mowing, then onto my slow makeover project with Crash Bunny. First time since my back problems of late December that I’ve felt capable to use the crowbar for breaking heavy concrete without it worrying me. Shaping up to be a good, busy week.
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Probably!
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Courtney Duncan winning her fourth Woman's World Motocross title.
[url]https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/132867637/courtney-duncan-wins-fourth-womens-world-motocross-title-in-turkey[/url And one for the Aussies. A few days late. https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/aussie-brothers-hunter-and-jett-lawrence-dominate-us-motocross-competition/b7d217b3-3620-4119-934f-a3a08830545c |
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Speaking of motorcycles, picked up a learner burner today. Bar a few minor cosmetics, none of the fairings are cracked. Needs a going through though as for the past 6 years the only times it was ridden was to get an inspection to keep up the rego, but hey, it came with 12 months rego.
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So to preface. L and P plate riders are restricted to 90kmh. My brother and i spoke a lot about how there isnt much point spending say 4k on something like a kawasaki z400, ktm rc390 or the like as the moment you get your fulls a faster bike will probably be on the cards.
So my brothers a bike guy, rides a litre bike like a tool but asked the bike questions of the seller and for $1500 i ended up with a 2007 honda cbr125r with 21k on the clock and 12 months rego. Bar a few scratches the bike is tidy and if i want could probably be onsold for more then purchase price. So its nothing special. Factory quoted top speed is 115kmh down hill with a strong tail wind. |
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