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Old 26-08-2020, 06:16 AM   #5731
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A metre from his house putting bins out and VIC Police are all over him



'State of emergency/disaster' can GAGF
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How is the form of the 7 people taking a yacht from Melbourne to Cooma! Apparently now all in 14 days of self paid isolation...freaking seriously.
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A metre from his house putting bins out and VIC Police are all over him
'State of emergency/disaster' can GAGF
A man was seen walking around the streets, past 8pm, no bin in hand, and the police are somehow magically supposed to know what he was doing? Did he actually cop a fine or just get questioned?

Where in the legislation does it say it gives "unlimited power" as claimed in the video? Avi, I used to enjoy his videos but he is fast going down the path of Alex Jones and David Icke. 500k subscribers, jeepers, but then again Alex had 10m before being arrested.

I believe I heard on ABC that the proposed change in Victoria will "bring it in line" with the rest of other states. So other states already have the power to extend INDEFINITELY? Looks like there is no escaping authoritarian regimes that is everywhere.

Took the dog to a park 5km from home yesterday. Right on the absolute edge. Copper pulls up, obviously doing a number plate check....drives away, no hassle.

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How is the form of the 7 people taking a yacht from Melbourne to Cooma! Apparently now all in 14 days of self paid isolation...freaking seriously.
Silly to have flaunt it so close to shore Curious to know who dobbed them in. Chan 9 did the segment, but they must have received a tip off.
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How is the form of the 7 people taking a yacht from Melbourne to Cooma! Apparently now all in 14 days of self paid isolation...freaking seriously.
Well, they somehow got out of Victoria and QLD approved their permit.

It shows you how lame the state govenments are, even QLD's backflip on the permit, why approve it in the first place if you're going to crumble under media pressure?
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How is the form of the 7 people taking a yacht from Melbourne to Cooma! Apparently now all in 14 days of self paid isolation...freaking seriously.
I never even knew that there was a harbour at Cooma...
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I never even knew that there was a harbour at Cooma...
Well, the Cooma Creek does run through town. Not sure how navigable that would be for a yacht though. Or even a dinghy, for that matter

Guessing it was supposed to be Noosa.
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Well, they somehow got out of Victoria and QLD approved their permit.

It shows you how lame the state govenments are, even QLD's backflip on the permit, why approve it in the first place if you're going to crumble under media pressure?
The permits are issued based on information provided by the applicant, in this case that the vessel was manned by working crew members taking it to be serviced, which was obviously incorrect. So Govco has repealed the permit in light of the new information provided by the media.
I don’t see that as being lame.
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A metre from his house putting bins out and VIC Police are all over him

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yeah..that is a bit sick. It would be correct to say the cops cant handle those powers.
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Well, they somehow got out of Victoria and QLD approved their permit.

It shows you how lame the state governments are, even QLD's backflip on the permit, why approve it in the first place if you're going to crumble under media pressure?
Because it appears the 'applicant' for the permit was not entirely upfront with information on the Exemption Application...

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Hence why the QLD rozzers are involved....

https://www.smh.com.au/national/hote...25-p55p5v.html

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137 new cases for Australia and 8 deaths sees the CMR rise to 2.096% and active rise again to 4,926. NSW recorded 3 cases with the balance in Victoria.

7 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.292% and active cases rise to 127.

The UK had 1,184 new cases and (supposedly) 16 deaths yesterday for a CMR of 12.645% although we know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines.

Just over 41k new cases in the USA yesterday and 510 deaths sees CMR fall to 3.062% and active cases drop to 42.5% with the raw numbers dropping slightly. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 24M, the last 1M in 4 days which is a slight improvement;
The USA completes74M and Peru 3M tests;
North America passes 7M cases;

Tunisia (176) is the only country to record a new daily high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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The Lady Pamela is berthed at the Gold Coast City Marina in Coomera
If they had of Gone direct from Melb to the Gold coast It would've OK (I think) But the fact that, they made several Pitstops at N.S.W. (a Covid hotspot) ports on the way Up. is why they got into Trouble.. Or at least that's how i read It..

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If they had of Gone direct from Melb to the Gold coast It would've OK (I think) But the fact that, they made several Pitstops at N.S.W. (a Covid hotspot) ports on the way Up. is why they got into Trouble.. Or at least that's how i read It..

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nati...ption-revoked/
That's right, they would have met the 14 day isolation period while on passage from Melbourne if they had not made any port calls, no doubt this was one of the requirements laid down by Maritime Safety Queensland (MSQ) in the exemption....
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That's right, they would have met the 14 day isolation period while on passage from Melbourne if they had not made any port calls, no doubt this was one of the requirements laid down by Maritime Safety Queensland (MSQ) in the exemption....
It seems as the boat needed servicing in Qld (really?) it was granted exemptions along with it's crew.

All 7 people on board were listed as crew.
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The topic of State of Emergency came up at work as we try to plan ahead. As I thought, other states are currently in a State of Emergency, and some as a result of multiple extensions already applied. Interestingly, the states and territory that have handled it the best (WA, SA, TAS, NT) are all still under SOE.

I can't work out if NSW and QLD are still under SOE. I think QLD expired a few days ago.

So if you are one of these people having a panic attack over the proposal, stop listening to nonsense and look at the rest of Australia. They are not being locked up and oppressed with "limitless powers" even through SOE is enforced. The only difference between other states and what Victoria is asking for is the time frame. Most seem to be renewed on a 3 monthly basis. Sounds fair. 12 months seemed excessive. Heard Dan saying he might now consider 4 weekly extensions.

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It seems as the boat needed servicing in Qld (really?) it was granted exemptions along with it's crew.

All 7 people on board were listed as crew.
Heard that but haven't actually seen anything that confirms it yet, all I’ve actually seen is reports like in the link hayseed posted above...

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And In in the SMH report it mentions several passengers and crew and then The group, which also includes several crew members...

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The group, which also includes several crew members, were removed from the Lady Pamela by members of Queensland Police just before 7pm on Tuesday evening, before they boarded a mini-van.
....the reporting seems to be giving a distinction between passengers and crew, but if it is found that individuals have been illegally signed on as crew then there's a good chance, depending on the class and registration of the vessel, that the Master will be saying goodbye to his career as his ticket will be revoked quick smart....

Edit: There is a huge Superyacht servicing industry at Coomera that attracts vessel internationally as well as local so they could have used that ruse.....
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Heard that but haven't actually seen anything that confirms it yet, all I’ve actually seen is reports like in the link hayseed posted above...
Just another link

From the article....

"It comes as police launch a criminal investigation into a millionaire family from Melbourne who escaped Victoria's strict lockdown on their superyacht and travelled to the Gold Coast,
claiming they were crew and the vessel – the Lady Pamela - needed essential maintenance."


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Just another link

From the article....

"It comes as police launch a criminal investigation into a millionaire family from Melbourne who escaped Victoria's strict lockdown on their superyacht and travelled to the Gold Coast,
claiming they were crew and the vessel – the Lady Pamela - needed essential maintenance."


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That must the one, my brother was telling me about earlier

I would like to know what the "conflicting information" is though, i guess we will find out eventually....

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Just another link

From the article....

"It comes as police launch a criminal investigation into a millionaire family from Melbourne who escaped Victoria's strict lockdown on their superyacht and travelled to the Gold Coast,
claiming they were crew and the vessel – the Lady Pamela - needed essential maintenance."


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To be fair, I once drove an unregistered classic car from Melbourne to Hobart under the VIC permit, no one battered an eyelid.

Wasn't a global pandemic though.

Nice tinny they have.
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That must the one, my brother was telling me about earlier

I would like to know what the "conflicting information" is though, i guess we will find out eventually....
All this talk of sailing got me thinking it might be time for a re launch.
Anyone fancy a sail up the Eastcoast from Victoria.
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Anyone fancy a sail up the Eastcoast from Victoria.
I think after these last two episodes the Queensland Navy will be at DEFCON 2
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Just thinking, didn't they travel outside into International waters, hence maybe why they conveniently called in at Yamba (an Australian Custom port) then into QLD to be cleared by customs.

You reckon the Redland Bay ferry might be a new QLD navy gunboat.
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Hmmmm, taking the boat for a few thousand kay cruise for nessisary repairs, jump in family¿ If it was that nessisary the boat would not have made it that far. My view is its the entitled persons thinking they are above everyone else.
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One further point - to fly the red duster (Red Ensign) don't you have to have a captain who has a Merchant Navy rank? Is that a thing of the past now, or did they hire a qualified skipper?




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Under the Flags Act 1953 (where the Blue Ensign is nominated as the Australian National Flag), the AU Red Ensign is the official flag to be flown at sea by Australian registered merchant ships so I believe it is linked to the vessel and not the skipper.
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If I can't afford anything better, I'll buy some cheap land in the bush and live in a shed.
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