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10-10-2018, 09:41 PM | #31 | ||
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Watched this recently what a cracking car the new Fiesta gonna be!
My opinion has shifted on the tiny 3cylinder. Check out the vid: New Fiesta ST
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11-10-2018, 05:47 AM | #32 | |||
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11-10-2018, 11:25 AM | #33 | |||
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Ford does nothing with Mondeo, no marketing, no incentives nothing. Its mainly driven by national fleet wagons. I like my Mondeo and cross shopped it with the ZB. It was 13k cheaper then a Calais V, similar tech plus the diesel is a bonus as the Mrs has a city commute each day (5.7 per hundred its sitting on). She loves it, that's all that matters to me.
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11-10-2018, 11:28 AM | #34 | ||
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11-10-2018, 05:50 PM | #37 | |||
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Mondeo is so underrated. We had an MC Titanium. Rock solid car that soaked up km's with the ease of a Falcon.
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11-10-2018, 05:56 PM | #38 | |||
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I have a feeling that the 2.7 EB in the US Fusion would be an absolute cracker. |
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11-10-2018, 06:20 PM | #39 | |||
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It would certainly provide a follow up to the turbo six cylinder sedans that had such a great following for many years. But, I think it would fail to sell for the same reasons that the Insignia VXR, ZB Commodore VXR and Kia Stinger V6 don't resonate with buyers.
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11-10-2018, 06:40 PM | #40 | |||
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even a 3 seat single Cab would sell well In my opinion.. otherwise you're up for a F250/RAM or Transit/transporter.... et al |
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11-10-2018, 06:46 PM | #41 | ||||
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12-10-2018, 07:51 PM | #43 | |||
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Most of the top 20 are front wheel drive. Most people wouldn't know or don't care.
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12-10-2018, 07:57 PM | #44 | |||
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1. Not a V8 2. Not RWD (VXR's) 3. Not made in Australia 4. Not a SUV 5. Not a Dual Cab Pick up
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Let's look at the natural successor segment for Falcon and Commodore buyers - premium midsize and premium large sedan segments. BMW, Merc, Jag, Audi: do RWD or FWD dominate sales in this segment?
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13-10-2018, 07:11 PM | #46 | |||
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the medium segment is no different. people just don't want that style of car. Its either lifestyle cars (utes, suv's) or small runabouts. on that note, the size of a corolla sedan (and most in that category) is now about the same as a 90's falcon anyway. There is a reason some of the biggest brands (Ford, Nissan, Mitsi etc) are moving completely away from sedan based cars.
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13-10-2018, 07:24 PM | #47 | ||
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I get that the segment shrunk. And now the midsize sedan segment is shrinking into obscurity. Then probably the hatch segment will disappear - all passenger into SUVs. That's an overarching trend.
But while that large segment existed, it was RWD, and Holden's attempt at replacing the Commodore with FWD shows just how much more the RWD was preferred. That's why I say look at the premium sedan segments - with the RWD Merc C Class doing so well, I'd say they aren't shrinking as much as the more affordable sedan segments. Which drive type dominates them?
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13-10-2018, 08:15 PM | #48 | ||
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I don't think a lack of RWD is the major reason that the med/large segment is shrinking.
C-Class sells well for many reasons, chief among them being that 3 pointed star on the bonnet and the badge credibility that it brings to the owners driveway. Most C-Class's are C200's with 135 kw, so its hardly like RWD is needed or even noticed. A lot of nostalgia and sentimental aspects kept sales of VF Commodore, and to a lesser level the FGX Falcon, at respectable levels in the last few years of production. I wonder if the ZB was RWD, would it sell like the VF did? Or would sales be the same as they are now and a case "not a real Holden" / "not made here"?
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22-10-2018, 01:53 PM | #49 | |||
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see 325HP Ford Fusion sport. if you dont like this car - you don't like cars https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review
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22-10-2018, 03:33 PM | #51 | ||
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Isn't Fusion & Mondeo the same car? were just talking about power-plant & drive-line.
I think Fusion is a Sedan only - no hatch or wagon & the Fusions are made in Mexico. Anyway its been axed - Mondeo may follow. Personally I like these cars but wouldn't buy a sedan or hatch these days
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23-10-2018, 11:49 AM | #53 | |||
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23-10-2018, 05:37 PM | #54 | ||
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I remember that Wickman said something about it was offered by Ford but he couldn't take the chance......
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