Ford announces a further $7 billion EV investment

[b0son]

Originally Posted by zilo

Just thinking...If the motor stalls in wife's Merc she has no hope of turning the wheel if on a twisty road.

My manual EF had a tendency to stall when in neutral, because of its unsteady idle. I recall putting it into neutral approaching a roundabout, then realising the engine had cut out because I couldnt turn the wheel quick enough to steer out of the roundabout. Nearly ran up the gutter. The Ford service guy just laughed.

[Bossxr8]

Australian EV plan incoming once the media embargo lifts at 3PM.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Australian EV plan incoming once the media embargo lifts at 3PM.

For Ford or general Australia?

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[Bossxr8]

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-e...ore-to-follow/


Ford E-Transit confirmed for Australia as brand’s first electric car, more to follow
Ford's first electric vehicle in Australia will be the E-Transit van, due next year – with more electric and hybrid models due over the coming years.

Alex Misoyannis
Alex Misoyannis
15:01, 05 October 2021






Ford Australia has confirmed it will launch its first electric vehicle in Australia mid-next year, the 2022 Ford E-Transit van.

The new E-Transit will be one of at least five new hybrid or electric vehicles confirmed for Australia by the end of 2024, joining the Escape plug-in hybrid SUV – though the Mustang Mach-E mid-size performance SUV remains no closer to showrooms (click here for more details).

Slated for a local launch in mid-2022, the E-Transit will launch in Australia in rear-wheel-drive, long-wheelbase 420L guise – and while prices are yet to be confirmed, translating overseas pricing to Australia suggests local prices could start between $75,000 and $80,000 before on-road costs.

Ford Australia has confirmed the vehicle will be sold through its traditional dealer network, rather than using a fixed-price online sales model like those being adopted by Hyundai and its latest Ioniq 5 electric SUV.



Powering the van is a 198kW/430Nm electric motor driving the rear wheels – making it the most powerful Transit on sale – mated to a 68kWh (net) battery capacity beneath the floor. Ford claims 317km of driving range on Europe’s WLTP test cycle, said to be 2.5 times the average daily distance covered by a commercial van.

DC fast charging at up to 115kW allows for a 15 to 80 per cent charge in 34 minutes, while 11.3kW AC charging from a home wallbox can provide a 100 per cent charge in 8.2 hours.

Ford quotes 11.3 and 12.4 cubic metres of cargo capacity in mid-roof and high-roof guises available in Australia – identical to an equivalent diesel Transit 350L RWD – while 4.2-tonne gross vehicle mass and 1616kg payload figures are also claimed.

A 12-inch Sync 4 touchscreen with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, satellite navigation and over-the-air updates will be available in Australia. Other highlights include Normal, Eco and Slippery drive modes, Pre-Conditioning functionality allowing drivers to set the cabin temperature while the vehicle charges, and a rear suspension design specific to the E-Transit.



Ford’s typical five-year/unlimited-kilometre warranty will carry over to the E-Transit, along with an eight-year/160,000km warranty for the battery and other high-voltage components.

Ford Australia hybrid and electric vehicle rollout detailed
Kicking off Ford Australia’s introduction of hybrid and electric cars will be the Escape PHEV (plug-in hybrid) mid-size SUV in early 2022, followed by the aforementioned E-Transit electric van in mid-2022.

“At least” three additional plug-in hybrid or electric vehicles will be launched in Australia by the end of 2024 – though the brand is yet to confirm how many additional vehicles beyond the initial five will be offered locally.

Overwhelming global demand means the Mustang Mach-E electric SUV remains off-limits to local buyers – with no date set on when supply for right-hand-drive supply will free up for an Australian launch – while the F-150 Lightning electric pick-up is not built in right-hand-drive, and isn’t in line to come Down Under.



While the brand remains quiet on which vehicles from its global electrified portfolio will make it to Australia, it notes that its five-plus new launches will be “largely” comprised of full battery-electric vehicles, rather than plug-in hybrids – suggesting at least three battery-electric cars for local roads.

Traditional ‘parallel’ hybrids (as used by Toyota) and lesser mild-hybrids are under consideration, with Birkic stating: “we remain open to all different types of powertrains and technologies.”

Ford of Europe has confirmed plans to launch a new small electric car based on Volkswagen’s MEB modular architecture, set to be introduced in 2023, and manufactured in the same Cologne plant as today’s Fiesta city car.

An electrified version of the next-generation Ranger ute has been confirmed, widely expected to be a plug-in hybrid, while hybrid versions of various Ford passenger cars, utes and vans are also available in other markets.

However, the remaining three-plus Australia-bound hybrid and electric Ford cars are yet to be identified or detailed.



“We certainly as part of our planning process need to look at those [mystery electrified models], and have a perspective [on what they are], yes,” Ford Australia president and CEO Andrew Birkic told Australian media today.

When pressed on the exact number of electrified Fords (beyond five) coming to Australia by 2025, Birkic added: “I’m not going to give [you] a number, but what I can tell you is we will look at the opportunities and what we see happening globally. We also need to get feedback from our customers and our dealers as we introduce these models.”

As part of its Australian rollout, Ford Australia will work with charging station supplier Jet Charge to install charging stations across its dealer network, Campbellfield headquarters, You Yangs proving ground, and Merrifield logistics centre. The brand will also train its dealers on servicing and maintenance of electric vehicles.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Also on the Ford Aus website.

https://www.ford.com.au/hybrid-elect...hp-fau--return

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Powering the van is a 198kW/430Nm electric motor driving the rear wheels – making it the most powerful Transit on sale – mated to a 68kWh (net) battery capacity beneath the floor. Ford claims 317km of driving range on Europe’s WLTP test cycle, said to be 2.5 times the average daily distance covered by a commercial van.

Just thinking out aloud, does this mean the E-Transit EV will be the most powerful Ford product in Australia after the Mustang GT and Ecoboost models ....until we get some other model info....
Edit: 1st in Oz with Sync 4 and I believe it has an IRS setup ditching leaf springs....so it'll behave better when you

[kypez]

Put that setup into the Ranger as an AWD!! I'll buy one today!

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

I believe it has an IRS setup ditching leaf springs....

So the GVM will go down.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

So the GVM will go down.

E Transit has a maximum payload of 3800 lbs, not bad for an electric

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by jpd80

E Transit has a maximum payload of 3800 lbs, not bad for an electric

lbs.........

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by jpd80

E Transit has a maximum payload of 3800 lbs, not bad for an electric

Yep, if you look at the current transit range, the E is better. Others range from 900kg to 1200kg. The E has a max of 1700kg.

https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/t...ompare-models/

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Yep, if you look at the current transit range, the E is better. Others range from 900kg to 1200kg. The E has a max of 1700kg.

https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/t...ompare-models/

Without thinking to hard about it but the absence of longer drive shafts and other drivetrain components would mean EV should be able to handle a bit more all things equal?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Without thinking to hard about it but the absence of longer drive shafts and other drivetrain components would mean EV should be able to handle a bit more all things equal?

Surely the EV Transit would be heavier due to batteries so the payload should be lower than the normal Transit?

Do they have a GVM over 4500KG?

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Surely the EV Transit would be heavier due to batteries so the payload should be lower than the normal Transit?

Do they have a GVM over 4500KG?

The E-Transit’s intelligently designed battery sits underneath the main body of the electric van to maximise room. This allows for cargo capacity of up to 12.4 cubic metres, identical to that of its full-size diesel counterpart. The E-Transit has a gross vehicle mass of up to 4.2 tonnes, with a targeted payload of 1,616 kg.

https://www.ford.com.au/future-vehicle/e-transit/

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Surely the EV Transit would be heavier due to batteries so the payload should be lower than the normal Transit?

Do they have a GVM over 4500KG?

For a pure EV, that has an ICE version, I wonder if no traditional auto or manual box plus drive shaft, a different rear suspension design and no diesel engine or in the case of US models no petrol engine means the E-Transit van could weigh less or very close to the ICE models.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

For a pure EV, that has an ICE version, I wonder if no traditional auto or manual box plus drive shaft, a different rear suspension design and no diesel engine or in the case of US models no petrol engine means the E-Transit van could weigh less or very close to the ICE models.

It's generally accepted that for 1L of diesel you need 20kg of batteries for the same energy density.

No gearbox, no engine, no driveshaft - what would these weigh in comparison to the battery bank and the motors.

I'm curious about the kerb weight of the ICE and EV Transit.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Just thinking out aloud, does this mean the E-Transit EV will be the most powerful Ford product in Australia after the Mustang GT and Ecoboost models ....until we get some other model info....
Edit: 1st in Oz with Sync 4 and I believe it has an IRS setup ditching leaf springs....so it'll behave better when you

By the time it goes on sale, no it won't be.

Focus ST is more powerful anyway - 206kw. It will be about number 5.

And yes, it has IRS.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

By the time it goes on sale, no it won't be.

Focus ST is more powerful anyway - 206kw. It will be about number 5.

And yes, it has IRS.

You mean you're able to take delivery of an ST at the moment...