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Old 01-10-2017, 09:05 AM   #31
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In the US lane change avoidance and self braking play no roll in the safety tests, as of now. In Australia, it appears these items are heavily weighted in the testing.

The US testing considers several different collision tests and a roll over. Both the Mustang and Camaro received mostly "GOOD" ratings (highest rating) and 1 "ACCEPTABLE" rating (mid rating).

However for the 2017 model year the Mustang does not have lane change avoidance or self braking. I don't know about the Camaro yet.

The 2018 Mustang will have both of these features.
So snap up the 2017,s so you can continue to DRIVE! .....rather than steer some gimmick ridden thing with alarms constantly chirping away at you, and be proud that you still have the ability to operate a mustang in the way it was designed to be
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:52 AM   #32
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Ya know I am lucky enough to have a 2016 Mustang and a 2017 Wildtrak and I must say the first thing I do when I hop in the Ranger is turn all the tech off. It annoys the **** out of me.
In my opinion the only thing the Stang is missing is front sensors! That bonnet is so looong!
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My dad has a new GT mustang, in Grabber blue, like the one for sale. Has black wheels and the black roof. I love it! The auto is actually lots of fun when in paddle mode and sounds great. Its a toy car for him.(and for me and my brother to hoon around in when we visit ) His other daily car is an fg xr6 turbo.

Funny, the other day he said to take it for a drive, said "dont get it impounded or crash it". Fair enough rules dad :-)

Did I mention how addictive the acceleration is? Pull out to pass someone at 90, you are doing 150-60 ish as you pull back in.

And yes, no one will ever sit in the back, so whatever rating downgrade it got for that doesnt count. Also lane departure and blackspot warnings are rubbish. Seriously get off the road if you dont know whats going on around you.
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Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .
You do realise your G6E would only get 2 stars too if it had todays testing.
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:28 PM   #35
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You do realise your G6E would only get 2 stars too if it had todays testing.
Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:08 PM   #36
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One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?
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One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?
Nope.

They didn't test one of the latest Chinese SUV's (was it HAVAL ?) to the latest standards either - because the manufacturers didn't want that.

Go figure, they got 5 stars to the old rating
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Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?
No crash avoidance technology
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One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?
Good points , also wonder how the ride height cornering stability and weight centre of gravity is with 7 people on board is and how it can be so much safer than a Mustang
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Good points , also wonder how the ride height cornering stability and weight centre of gravity is with 7 people on board is and how it can be so much safer than a Mustang
I bet it doesn't have Brembo Brakes either, but it might have a beepy light thing or tug your steering wheel when you get close to the painted line on the road....
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...tug your steering wheel when you get close to the painted line on the road....
A big concern of mine is, what is going to happen in ice conditions just when you need to counter steer and the car is trying to force the wheel in the wrong direction for counter steering?
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:46 PM   #42
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Also lane departure and blackspot warnings are rubbish. Seriously get off the road if you dont know whats going on around you.
The roads will be a very lonely place.



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couldnt believe my eyes at bunnings today someone was using the back seat of their convertible stang.the seat and the boot full of pot plants,i just shook my head as i drove past.its bad enough just getting into the back just to wipe the dust off ours
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Convertibles are easier to clean, just drop the roof.
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Convertibles are easier to clean, just drop the roof.
and then hose out???
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Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?
I shouldn't need to explain... but look at the points where the Mustang failed and see if the G6E would pass.

So what car are you driving now? would it pass the same test the Mustang was subjected to?

Point being the Ancap rating is a Guide, it advances as safety technology does.

I drive a Territory with a 5 star rating, but that test was done in 2014.
As DFB FGXR6 mentions if they start looking at 3rd Rows more closely it would probably fail miserably.
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One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?
Agreed, there would definitely a lot more people and especially children, ride in the "3rd row" seating of these SUVs, than the amount that ride in the back seat of the Mustang.

So how come in the interest of public safety, there is no headlines or specific crash testing of these areas of seating, of these types of vehicles?

Its nice to know that there are some members that come on to this forum to remind us of the safety rating (not crash rating) of the Mustangs, but they are only doing half a job, like mentioned above, there are more passengers out there at risk in other makes of vehicles, why aren't they warning them?
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I shouldn't need to explain... but look at the points where the Mustang failed and see if the G6E would pass.

So what car are you driving now? would it pass the same test the Mustang was subjected to?

Point being the Ancap rating is a Guide, it advances as safety technology does.

I drive a Territory with a 5 star rating, but that test was done in 2014.
As DFB FGXR6 mentions if they start looking at 3rd Rows more closely it would probably fail miserably.

I shouldnt need to explain??. Well if you cant support you comment why comment at all.
At the end of the day the Mustang rated a 2 star. Thats it.
I dont really care as i wont be buying one.
My drive is an Audi SQ5 btw. Now THATS car. Lol
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Just buy it & enjoy it! you'll be plenty safe compared to me in my 63 ford, that doesn't have seat belts, power booster or disc brakes, etc, etc ...........
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No crash avoidance technology
Yep , wouldn't it be odd if the driver had to actually use his eyes and common sense. Perish the thought...
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