i drove a vy sv8 235 kw 6 spd man 5.7 litre .

[gtfpv]

its very interesting reading peoples opinions seeing i know nothiong about holdens . i was dissapointed but i know with edits and bolt ons they are a changed beast.

[Full Spectrum]

Originally Posted by 30487256

I think most drivers would find that the GenIII doesn't have tremdous grunt off the line as peak torque occurs relatively high up. But once it gets going it really "flys". :

Might explain why the VE stayed in front of a VYII SS in 1st gear.

[FORD3V]

Originally Posted by OzJavelin

Well, well, well .. when I purchased my VY1 SV8 it opposition (pricewise) was ... BA XT V8. Sorry, but NO performance comparison. The BA was a nice car to drive, but no fun.

The SV8 doesn't sound like a "real" V8, but that's fine by me. The VY1 doesn't even look like a pseudo-performance V8, it just looks like an Exec with 17" and a spoiler (like every other car in the carpark). But I like it .. it's kind of stealthy.

I can't say I've ever driven a BA XR8 but based upon the reviews of the time, I don't think an VY1 SV8 would conclusively beaten by a BA XR8? One thing I'm pretty sure of is that despite the "penalty" of pushrods, the 'ole GenIII/IVs will typically out rev the 5.4L easily .. and that helps stirring up thru the gears ..

My 2cents ..

mate, i own a ba xt v8 that has achieved 232rwkw's and has run 12.7 down the quarter, no performance comparison a.....

[MITCHAY]

You drove a SV8 after driving your GT. Of course it's going to feel slow.

That's like when I drove my TX5 after driving my new car. I could barely drive it because the clutch felt so soft.

My mate has a VX Clubsport R8 and that thing gets up and boogies pretty well. Sounds awesome too but damn the petrol would cost a lot!

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by 12sec 3V XT

mate, i own a ba xt v8 that has achieved 232rwkw's and has run 12.7 down the quarter, no performance comparison a.....

Gee .. stock .. I'm impressed The one I drove didn't seem like it could outrun my 175kw AU 5.0L ..

If I wanted a drag car I'd spend the $$$ on a 390ci for my Javelin, which weighs about 300kg less than a lo-spec BA. As an all-round PSEUDO-PERFORMANCE (in the XR6-type vein) the SV8 is still (was in VY) pretty good bang-for-buck ..

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by stevz

No thats right, Ford are so perfect they simply cannot put a foot wrong.
Sheesh, you are more deluded than I thought.

Any excuse for Holden bashing from you.

Where did I say Ford are perfect. Far from it, they produce some duds too, but generally they are more consistent than the LS1. Motor proved that when they did the dyno comparison. The Boss engines were spot on where they should be and the LS1's were all over the place. They are facts. It is widely known that LS1's vary alot in power between them. :MrT_anim: :

[JamesR]

i drove a vy/vx ss ute recently..
that thing went alright. ;)
well.. better than the ol' escort.

[private9]

I owned a VX Berlina with a gen 3 (225kw) a few years ago, and while the top end was good, driving around day to day it felt lethargic, unresponsive and breathless. When I hopped into the V6 Execs at work these felt better just cruising around.

As for the performance difference between a gen 3 and an XR8, to me it didn't feel like there was much in it either way - but the XR8 certainly feels a bit 'beefier' (or more v8 like) to drive.

[Jock260]

just a simple mod such as exhaust does wonders, this is our ss, it has pacemakers 2.5 inch exhaust, 3:91 diff and CAI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am9p1ja_Igw

its all it needs to be a weapons, but yes, u have to work it to get it going

[XEESP_351]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Where did I say Ford are perfect. Far from it, they produce some duds too, but generally they are more consistent than the LS1. Motor proved that when they did the dyno comparison. The Boss engines were spot on where they should be and the LS1's were all over the place. They are facts. It is widely known that LS1's vary alot in power between them. :MrT_anim: :

and vary alot in reliability..I hear some new VE's are still munching themselves... I drove an Vy SS auto the other day mate they are slugs in standard auto form or atleast felt like that..It just didnt have that torque feel to it..id much rather my AU 220 anyday

(edit) not that im saying my AU is faster it just didnt feel like it pulled hard

[Full Spectrum]

First Gen3's were negated with a restricting exhaust system, First thing enthusiast did was get a better flowing system.

Mr-T who told you that BS about the VE's:P

[banarcus]

Our SV8(auto) feels much doughier down low compared to my wagon but when it's in the upper limits of its rev range it feels much better. Still goes very well but I guess your used to what you drive day in day out.

[FORD3V]

cold air intake,edit, exhaust = 232rwkws. I dont really consider that as building a drag car, a few relatively cheap bolt ons for a 12 sec daily driver with reliability, not to many people realise the potential in these 3 valves.

[Sprint347]

Yes, but do extractors/exhaust/tune on both a Boss 260 and the SV8 and i'll put my money on the SV8.

And my blood is as blue as it comes.

[obd]

Originally Posted by mr t-series

and vary alot in reliability..I hear some new VE's are still munching themselves... I drove an Vy SS auto the other day mate they are slugs in standard auto form or atleast felt like that..It just didnt have that torque feel to it..id much rather my AU 220 anyday

(edit) not that im saying my AU is faster it just didnt feel like it pulled hard

and this is where the difference is between your old windsor 220 and the ls1/boss is that yours may have the low down torque but it runs out of puff at anything over 4500 rpm and this is where the ls1 and the boss come into there own.

[JAYBA]

Originally Posted by nitrane

Yes, but do extractors/exhaust/tune on both a Boss 260 and the SV8 and i'll put my money on the SV8.

And my blood is as blue as it comes.

interesting call but i think it would be very close...
i have driven vyss(245kw) and my mates vx clubby(255kw) both manuals

vyss(full system) feels a little lazy and it shows when you line it up with the clubby
the clubby hoses it. the clubby i drove felt quick but lined up
with my baxr8(auto) before custome tune and diff gears i was
quite happy..the clubby has headers,cats exhaust and cai, rip shifter
ba (had) headers no exhaust, underpulleys, cai, and generic flash

if draggin from stand still clubby would pull a car length
and hold it until very high speeds...
dragging from rolling 50km plus and the ba would pull slightly ahead and the clubby had no hope of getting it back

i think it does come down to each car is a little different
some dont live up to the hype and some do

very little ba's with bolt ons without diff gears doing twelves
but you know.. theres very little ls1's with bolt ons without diff gears doing twelves either

[MrSparkle]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

as the title says . but it sounded like a six . had no balls and was dissapointing to drive . all the hype over the years about holdens having more grunt than fords actually sunk in untill this 235kw mouse changed my mind . a boss 260 would eat it every day of the week and the gt would appitimise it . the xr8 EL 172KW 5 SPEED i owned wasnt far off this and was much nicer to drive . i remember reading about the windsor au 220 not being able to keep up with these things . HOGWASH .
MY 2C FOR TODAY.

I bet you weren't half as disappointed as I was on my first drive of a BF1 GTP! :