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01-11-2011, 02:34 AM | #31 | ||
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I'm a massive fan of buy Australian made. I've even had digs made to me about how I seem to go 'overboard'. 99.9% of all products I buy are made in Australia. If I can't find something made here, I will choose the next option that isn't China/India.
There are still heaps of products made in Australia, you just have to know where to look. I check every product I pickup and now usually know what is made here and what isn't. I buy only Australian made general household food products as I refuse to buy/consume anything food related that is made in China. All of Nabisco's products including in a Biskit, Oreos and premiums etc. are now all made in China. Watch out for peanuts and peanut butter. There are a lot of generics now being made in China and most of the time you can still get the Aussie made one for a similar price. Arnotts, (although foreign owned) still make most of their products here. I even go as far as to support an Australian owned company who makes stuff here over one that's foreign owned. All my bathroom products are Australian made. You can still get Aussie made toothpaste, toothbrushes, body wash, shampoos and conditioners, as well as tissues and dunny rolls. Even the Aluminium foil & cling wrap I buy is Aussie made. Castaway still make the stuff here, although the only place I've been able to find it is Campbell's warehouse. If I buy fruit and vegies they're Australian grown and I even buy locally grown garlic. All the cars I've ever owned (apart from the 3 Japanese imports I've had) were Australian built. Cars (especially new ones) are the harder thing to do, due to the much higher cost involved in getting something new. For instance, I'd love a new Territory Diesel but I'm not in any position to buy something at that price (no matter where it's from), so I'll just have to wait a few years for them to slowly come out on the 2nd hand market and down in price. When I go to buy white goods & furniture in the future, I plan on trying to get as much Aussie made stuff as I can. There are still lounges and beds made here as well as fridges, freezers & cooktops. It can be done. I just seem to be one of those odd people that likes to do what he can while we can. It will probably end up being a futile exercise in the end (with the way this 'globalisation' thing is heading), but I'll stick with what I know and am comfortable with for the time being. I'll finish my now and go find an Aussie made flame retardant suit. |
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01-11-2011, 03:20 AM | #32 | ||
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Buy Australian, pfft. Any business listed on the ASX or Wall street or wherever could be owned by anyone. As a percentage of GDP manufacturing in Oz has always been minimal. The only thing that made it even remotely relevant was the fact we were a million miles from anywhere else. Advances in transportation systems ended that. Also may pay for some members to remember as for GDP we export a hell of a lot more than we import, for this alone we should all be greatful it gives us hospitals, roads, schools etc etc. Instead of thinking about vegimite and aeroplane jelly and the other iconic products we used to call our own and could never imagine being without. Ask how many people want to be Jar cleaners at the local peanut butter manufacturer? Low skilled low paid jobs always have and always will be taken up by countries with poorer economies, whilst countries like our rely on primary industries mining, agriculture, R&D, education industry etc etc
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01-11-2011, 07:36 AM | #33 | ||
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how many thousands of australians are employed by multi national companies?? regardless of where you buy, you are still helping to keep australians in jobs.
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01-11-2011, 08:01 AM | #34 | ||
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If you can afford to buy the Australian made products and can find one that is actually as good or better than the cheaper alternative then I say go for it. I'm afraid that in this day and age most people will almost always buy what they can afford from wherever is cheapest and that's just the way it is. I live on a limited income myself and I'm afraid I am guilty of purchasing many items from O/S due to the ridiculous mark up by retailers over here, maybe if the big shot CEO's and directors weren't so bloody greedy there would be more Aussie owned businesses making locally produced goods within the average workers affordability range. Sorry to say it but nothing has changed over time, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, it's the same all over the globe. Unfortunately this country is no longer our own and it never will be again :(
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01-11-2011, 08:20 AM | #35 | ||
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Got some new mufflers the other day, had a choice between two or three brands. Told the guy at the exhaust shop I would get the but the Australian made redbacks to support australian made products despite him recommending a different brand. The guy sounded a bit surprised. Please don't anybody tell me redbacks aren't Aussie made!
If the Aussie goods are close to the mark in price and quality I think you've gotta do your bit. |
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01-11-2011, 10:12 AM | #36 | ||
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I pay more where I can. If it's something that the quality will be recognised - work boots, clothes, tap fittings etc.
I am one of those people who would rather pay 20% more for something quality and have it last 3 times as long. Things I buy cheap include disposables... plastic bags, etc. I will keep my thoughts about what labour costs have done to competitiveness in Australia. Everyone knows it's true. |
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01-11-2011, 02:21 PM | #37 | ||
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produce: Local markets, fruit and veg shops, butchers and bakers where I can.
Clothing: I try to get as much Aussie made as possible. Furniture: Wouldn't have a clue, that that is mine, was made by my famile (coffee tables, dining chairs, even my old bed), all the old mans work, so that's as aussie made as you can get. If it's home-madeable I'll do it at home if I can't find an Aussie made version. I'm a student, I live poor, and I can go out of my way to buy Aussie made. So the "it's more expensive" line, when it comes down to food/general merch, doesn't sit well with me. I work part time for a manufacturer (German owned, but local gig), who make car parts. The industry is screwed for two reasons: 1. The assemblers/OEMs are looking for a cheaper supply, however, have started to re check what they're doing (hence why we are starting to get a little more business), but the competition has been killed locally, so even with the awareness people have now, nothing is going to change in that regards, and 2) yes, locally made stuff is more expensive, because people have to make a dollar. The old adage that "supply=costs more" isn't necessarily true. Make it obvious Aussie made *insert random object here* is more popular than it's Chinese/Taiwanese/Indian counterpart then someone may just pop up locally to make it cheaper than the other guy. Again, it comes down to the competition locally being killed by the overseas mass producers. Obviously this theory won't work for everything, but it's just my two cents, based on observations over the years.
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01-11-2011, 03:32 PM | #38 | ||
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I try and buy Australian Made where I can........my friends own this business http://www.threethrees.com.au/index.html and they are fourth generation......their products are great and the Mighty Mite......tastes better than Vegemite....really IMO. They need your support ,so try some...Thanks
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01-11-2011, 03:58 PM | #39 | ||
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i'm slightly amused at how many people say they buy australian to get better quality, even if it costs a bit more.
australian made doesn't automatically mean better quality! would you still buy australian if it was an obviously inferior product, even slightly?? manufacturing in australia is expensive. offshore items can be a lot cheaper AND much higher quality. |
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01-11-2011, 04:42 PM | #41 | |||
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i find everyone is all 'pro australian made' up to a certain price point. grocery shopping is hardly a major cost differential but when it comes to larger items at much higher costs where quality of offshore products is often perceived as being much better, peoples loyalties are not so black and white. |
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01-11-2011, 05:44 PM | #42 | |||
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01-11-2011, 06:29 PM | #43 | |||
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01-11-2011, 06:46 PM | #44 | ||
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I own a business that produces a specific item in China to sell here and in NZ. As an example, my price is $300 and has a 3 year warranty. My quality control has jumped because I have an Australian overseeing production in China. My competition`s product (aus made) costs double my price and has a 1 year warranty.
When more people wake up that India has taken over the mantle of crap manufacturing (where China was 10-15 years ago) then you will see pricing start to RISE (same happened with Japan when their quality rose) I have some new products being made at the moment that will make my industry sit up and take notice but the quality will be BETTER than Aus made. Cheers Mick
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01-11-2011, 07:21 PM | #45 | |||
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i don't go out of my way to buy aussie made. i have a mortgage and a family so there is very little spare change each week. |
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01-11-2011, 07:23 PM | #46 | ||||
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02-11-2011, 10:44 AM | #47 | |||
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Economies of scale is what hurts us. We simply are not in the position to produce what the Taiwanese factories can. I recently went to purchase a 6x4 trailer from the local guy that has been doing it for thirty years. The 6x4 was $599 and a 7x5 was $1199, I asked why such a big difference? He explained that the 6x4's are made in Thailand and assembled here. He only makes 7x5 and tandems, builders trailers now.
What have we come to that even the local guy has to import from o'seas to compete........
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02-11-2011, 12:06 PM | #48 | ||
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TBH, I tend to buy quality over where the product is made. This being said, if there is no difference in quality then I will do my very best to buy Aussie made. Personally Im not fussed for paying an extra 40c for a can of tomato paste etc. Unless it was significantly more expensive, (40%+ for anything thats about $10 up) then im happy to buy Aus made.
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02-11-2011, 12:16 PM | #49 | ||
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Where ever possible we will buy Aussie made, our preference is for Aussie made AND Aussie owned.
Whether it be food, clothes or other bits and pieces.
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02-11-2011, 12:47 PM | #50 | ||
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In the same boat, I try to buy Aussie made and owned, if not then at least Aussie made but it's not easy to find out or know.
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02-11-2011, 04:45 PM | #51 | |||
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02-11-2011, 11:03 PM | #52 | ||
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Was in Woolies the other day just grabbing some snacks. Maggie noodles were made in Thailand I think but the cheaper Fantastic noodles were made in Australia??
I bought the Fantastic noodles. |
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03-11-2011, 05:45 PM | #53 | |||
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Often I find it is the opposite. Aussie made goods are often cheaper than the imports. A few examples off the top of my head. 1. Natures organics shampoo and body wash. Almost the cheapest thing on the shelf and Aussie made and owned. 2. Coles brand toothpaste. Cheap, tastes good, supported by the Australian dental association, and not made in Tailand like Colgate. 3. Bega and Coon cheese. 4. Cadbury chocolate 5. Nudie juices 6. Aussie beer (mmmm coopers pale ale) 7. La Famiglia garlic breads 8. San remo pasta 9. Bowdens Own car care etc, etc. There are many Aussie made, competitively priced products out there if you take a couple of seconds to read the back label. Once you know what brands to look for you won't need to read them again. |
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07-11-2011, 01:48 PM | #54 | ||
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I would try to purchase locally made goods where possible, provided its not ridiculously expensive. except for dunny rolls - i think we should cut some other countries trees for that
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07-11-2011, 06:47 PM | #55 | ||
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was in coles the other day, trying to buy australian orange juice, i spent 5 minutes reading labels. and could not find and ozzy product.
i hear the overseas orange juice has chemicals in it, well i guess there growers standards (types of chemicals used) aren,t as good as ours. |
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07-11-2011, 07:12 PM | #56 | ||
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I'll buy Australian made or grown whenever possible.
My Wife hates going grocery shopping with me, because I check everything that goes in the trolley, and if it's not Made locally, it's back to the aisle that it came from, and a quick look at the other options. Colgate is case in point. I noticed that its taste had changed, and turned the tube over, noticing that it was no longer made in Australia. Off to Macleans I went. Arnotts were made only in Australia, with "Made in Australia, exporting to the World" written on all of their labels. Their new Rice Crackers are Indonesian, but Sakata blatantly advertised Tinned Tuna, Australian made Thai Curry Pastes, nor a number of other tinned products. I'm also quite happy to buy frozen foods from New Zealand, especially Peas, of which there aren't many Aussie ones left. I will not buy imported fruit. I will not buy imported meat. This year, I've even found an Australian grown, Organic Ham for Christmas. The organic bit doesn't really worry me, but the fact that I know it's Australian is everything.
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Yes but there is a good toilet paper that is Aussie made and owned that is from recycled office paper. It is called Naturale. They use the profits to buy Australian rainforest for conservation. |
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08-11-2011, 08:18 AM | #59 | ||
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Whats the big deal with stuff made in China?
If you think about it every thing a chinese consumer buys is made from local labour and imported raw materials. The raw materials is from that foreign country called Australia. So...when you buy something from China chances are you are just buying back the raw materials we sold them, and they probably used the australian coal to make the electricity that powered the factory as well. Really can't see the problem. We all want our kids to go to university and get "decent" jobs dont we? When was the last time anyone aspired to have their kids work on the production line at Fords? |
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