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Old 11-07-2011, 12:59 AM   #31
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And what law might that be....? and who does it apply to....?
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Old 14-07-2011, 11:22 PM   #32
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We work 12 hr shifts 6 days a week - sometimes 7 days a week (but dont work more than 14 days in a row - then take one day off without pay and start over again).
Paid for std hrs time and a half for first 3 hrs and double time for the rest. Sat and Sun at overtime. Sunday at double time from the start.
How does that compare with the flat rate guys and if you're on a flat rate, does your sickies and annual leave get paid at the flat rate as if it was worked or does it come back to a base rate on those days?
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Old 15-07-2011, 08:15 AM   #33
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Thanks mate, I’m familiar with the Road Traffic act/Truck driver requirements on hours, i thought you where referring to a work site other than Truck drivers....

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Old 15-07-2011, 08:31 AM   #34
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Shift at my work is two 12hr days then two 12 hr nights then off four days, not a bad roster four crews 24hr coverage.
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Old 15-07-2011, 08:41 AM   #35
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My roster is 3 days, 3 nights 6 off, 12.5 hr shift including 1/2 hr handover. Love it. I could never ever go back to a normal day job now, I get too much time off to go back to living for two days a week wishing my life away.
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Old 15-07-2011, 08:46 AM   #36
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I work 13 hour days, do not get paid for travel to & from minesite. 7 days 7 nights, I fly home in my time (unpaid) 2 hour flight back to Perth 5 weeks annual leave, free income protection (part of my salary package) for 2 years. In other words if I have a major illness I will be paid for upto 2 years @ salary package rates. My contract has it's good & bad points, just a matter of balance I suppose. 3 crews involved, 1 Dayshift 1 Nightshift, 1 shift on R&R. FIFO Iron Ore.
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Old 15-07-2011, 10:17 AM   #37
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My roster is 3 days, 3 nights 6 off, 12.5 hr shift including 1/2 hr handover. Love it. I could never ever go back to a normal day job now, I get too much time off to go back to living for two days a week wishing my life away.
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i used to do 2x 20hr shifts, 2x 12hr shifts... than rest a couple days and repeat.. did it for a short while before it brought me down

now im happy to do 3x 10hrs & 1x 8hrs, 3 days off...cruising
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Yeah righto, end of the month I start buying stuff and Tax time is a coming
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I do 7 nights, a shift change, 7 days then basically 6 days at home (meant to be 14 and 7 but really ends being 15 and 6). 12 hour days plus 30min travel each way to site and camp (unpaid). 3 crews. Get full family coverage private health, 5.5% yearly bonus, NT living allowance and travel assistance for the whole family. In a gold mine. When i move to Perth next year i will be looking at a more family freindly roster.
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Old 16-07-2011, 06:37 PM   #41
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im 23, qualified mechanic and will be moving to Hervey bay at the end of the year... do u think the company you work for would be interested in me? id love to work away! i need a challenging job hahaha

I'd advise not moving to the bay unless you have a job to go to. At 10% unemployment ATM its the highest in the state.

Anglo American was looking for cleanskins not long ago, you can have a look here

http://www.angloamerican.com.au/care...vacancies.aspx

most mine companies will have similar

http://www.mastermyne.com.au/careers

is also worth a look as they have a cleanskins training facility in Mackay
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Old 16-07-2011, 06:45 PM   #42
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I recently read a report saying that shiftwork, as in doing day shift, then nightshift, takes seven years off your life.
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Old 16-07-2011, 10:44 PM   #43
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I recently read a report saying that shiftwork, as in doing day shift, then nightshift, takes seven years off your life.
Ten years off the crap end that I would have spent being an old fart

Normal fortnight: any combination of (usually) 7am-3pm and 3pm-11pm (but may include any 8 hour shift) with a random mix of total 10 days on and 4 days off.

Night fortnight: seven nights 11pm-7am, two shifts 3pm-11pm, one shift 7am-3pm, then four days off straight.

Every second roster is a night roster.
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Ten years off the crap end that I would have spent being an old fart

Normal fortnight: any combination of (usually) 7am-3pm and 3pm-11pm (but may include any 8 hour shift) with a random mix of total 10 days on and 4 days off.

Night fortnight: seven nights 11pm-7am, two shifts 3pm-11pm, one shift 7am-3pm, then four days off straight.

Every second roster is a night roster.
Yeah,I heard that as well, so if asbestosis don't get you, silicosis will. If that fails, liver failure, skin cancer, plane crashes, car accidents are next in line. If your still alive, marriage breakdown, company bankruptcy, redundancy are next in line. Please keep me on nightshift!!!
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Old 17-07-2011, 09:57 AM   #45
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Yeah,I heard that as well, so if asbestosis don't get you, silicosis will. If that fails, liver failure, skin cancer, plane crashes, car accidents are next in line. If your still alive, marriage breakdown, company bankruptcy, redundancy are next in line. Please keep me on nightshift!!!
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Old 17-07-2011, 10:12 AM   #46
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i do shift work but just a normal weekly rotating 3 shift rotation. 2 weeks nights, 1 week arvo's, 1 week days- rinse and repeat.

shift hours are days - 6am-1:30pm; arvos - 1:30pm - 9pm; nights(4 nights)-9pm-6am.
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Old 17-07-2011, 10:32 AM   #47
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mmm. I currently do a rotating roster as a store person for an airline company
and it is 4 on 4 off and it rotates so week 1 is day shifts (7am-3pm) arvo shifts
3pm-11pm the night is 11pm-7am its great your only doing night shifts once every 3 week and I get five weeks annual leave per year which your able to rollover (for a maximum 3 years) and 10 days sick leave a year which doesn't rollover

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Old 17-07-2011, 10:58 AM   #48
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6 on 1 off
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I recently read a report saying that shiftwork, as in doing day shift, then nightshift, takes seven years off your life.
I wonder what they would say about this....

This is a "normal" five week swing showing hours on watch (x) and the hours of rest left blank....
0000 > 0400 on, 0400 > 1000 off, 1000 > 1800 on, 1800 > 0000 off, and on it goes day in day out for five weeks....



When working in Australia above the 26 parallel we work 5 weeks on 5 weeks off, working below the 26 parallel, e.g. Bass Strait where we are now, it's 4 weeks on 4 weeks off....

Make sence...??
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Yeah,I heard that as well, so if asbestosis don't get you, silicosis will. If that fails, liver failure, skin cancer, plane crashes, car accidents are next in line. If your still alive, marriage breakdown, company bankruptcy, redundancy are next in line. Please keep me on nightshift!!!

hahahah . i'm a shift worker too , and i do worry about these reports ,
on the other hand how many years do office workers lose , by sitting at a desk 9 to 5 , with transport to and from work , and the eyesight , and headaches . i tried this for a few weeks and it drove me insane .
. on topic . this is a great thread , i never realised there were so many rosters out there .
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just been told were changing from 7 days, 3 off, 7 nights, 4 off, to 7 and 7 roster, will be able to drive a truck and start swinging my hammer again on days off
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Old 18-07-2011, 07:34 PM   #52
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I recently read a report saying that shiftwork, as in doing day shift, then nightshift, takes seven years off your life.
Yeah but I usually work less then 35 hours a week. Normally only 3 or 4 days.

So with all my spare time off I will make up for those 7 years
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I recently read a report saying that shiftwork, as in doing day shift, then nightshift, takes seven years off your life.
This doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I've been doing it for just under 2 years and it has done me no good. I've put on 20kgs for starters

We do Mon,Tues,Weds 7pm-7am and then Sun 7am-7pm. Then we do Thurs,Fri,Sat,Sun 7pm-7am and then Sat. 7am-7pm over 3 weeks.

So it is 9 days out of 21 working and then we do 3 weeks on day shift, rinse and repeat. The weekend nights are the worst because everyone else is at home and awake while you're trying to sleep during the day

We used to do about 6-8 weeks days but we do not have enough people to do this now.

All I can say to those considering a shift position is to avoid it like the plague unless you really desperately need the money. It is not easy by any means

The days you have off you can't do **** anyway because you sleep most of the time.
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Old 18-07-2011, 10:39 PM   #54
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I really don't mind shift work.

Sure staying awake at 3am is hard sometimes. But once I finish my last night work, by that afternoon I am usually recovered and that night I am back into my normal sleep routine. Then for my days off I feel great.


My old man worked 14 on then 14 off for a while.
7 days followed by 7 nights.
Could anyone do this? I would hate it. 14 days off sounds good though.
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This doesn't surprise me in the least bit. I've been doing it for just under 2 years and it has done me no good. I've put on 20kgs for starters

We do Mon,Tues,Weds 7pm-7am and then Sun 7am-7pm. Then we do Thurs,Fri,Sat,Sun 7pm-7am and then Sat. 7am-7pm over 3 weeks.

So it is 9 days out of 21 working and then we do 3 weeks on day shift, rinse and repeat. The weekend nights are the worst because everyone else is at home and awake while you're trying to sleep during the day

We used to do about 6-8 weeks days but we do not have enough people to do this now.

All I can say to those considering a shift position is to avoid it like the plague unless you really desperately need the money. It is not easy by any means

The days you have off you can't do **** anyway because you sleep most of the time.
Sounds like your roster is more the problem, not shift work... I love shift work, and like others have said, i wouldn't go back to a normal mon-fri job. I'm lucky to work 7 days a month, and 6 nights per month once i take my allocated RDO. Add in 6wks per year of rec leave and my personal leave, and i'm seriously lucky to work 11 shifts per month on average!

Our roster is a little weird, but it ensures every second weekend is off, which makes it easy.

Goes a bit like this 3 dayshifts, 1 off, 3 nightshifts, 2 off, 2 nights, 6 off. Then start back on 4 days, 2 nights and another 5 off. Then go back to the 3 days cycle...

The hardest thing about shift work is sleeping patterns. I try not to sleep much after my last nightshift, maybe get 3-4hrs tops. Wake up by 11am at the latest and go do stuff. A few beers in the arvo, and in bed by 8-9pm and i'm all back to normal!

As for the weight gain, you can't blame shift work as such. I too put on a stack of weight, but that was due to my laziness. Now, instead of sitting on the couch playing xbox while the kids are at school, i go out for a ride or go to the gym for an hour or so.
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I used to work a rotating days/nights shift that was all over the place ... and the rotation was about 10-12 week pattern.

I'm now on a 2 week pattern which is done twice for dayshift ... and then across to nightshift for the same pattern ... so much easier to keep track of for me ... and less stress in this environment.

And if we need to ... everyone in the team is pretty accomodating for swaps as well.

After doing shiftwork now for 10 years ... I am used to the sleeping at anytime. At least now I only have a 30-40 minute commute instead of over an hour (especially after a string of nightshifts).

Now that I am really back into my part-time courier work inbetween shifts now ... I don't get a day off at all now. I think October long weekend is my next day off work.
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we have 5 crews. night/day/arvo during the week and day/night during weekends.

all based on a 35hr week. extra hours paid at O/T rates. weekend shifts get weekend penalty rates.

nights do 9hrs tues-thurs (10:30-7:30) and 10hrs fri (10:30-8:30)
days do 9hrs tue-thurs (6:30-3:30) and 12hrs fri (7:30-7:30) theres also a day crew that does 8hrs mon-fri (6:30-2:30)
arvos do 12hrs monday (11:30-11:30) and 9hrs tue-thurs (2:30-11:30)
weekend days do 12hrs sat-sun (6:30-6:30) and 6hrs mon (6:30-12:30)
weekend nights do 12hrs sat-sun-mon (6:30-6:30)
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training day half day, day, day, day, night, night
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day, day, night, night
5 days off
day, day, night, night, night
3 days off

pain in the *** but you only work half the year. 12.5hr days and 10.5 nights 12.5 nights if I want the extra overtime.
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