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Old 09-11-2017, 09:15 AM   #31
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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

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I thought i read the aussie mustangs dyno a fair bit less than the american ones, something to do with the exhaust ?? I could be wrong
I believe the headers are routed differently, or less efficiently for the RHD models.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:29 AM   #32
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Well im saying itll boost the MPH too. Thr same thing happened when the local cars went from 4spd to 6spd.
If the overall system is a bit more efficient then maybe 1 or 2 mph.

But not a gain like this. Typical good running 2015 - 2017 Coyotes I've seen around 110 mph. Depending on day and track, some a little more, some a little less.

Going through the traps at 117 mph is a 7 mph gain. That is horsepower or weight reduction or a combination of both.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:45 AM   #33
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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

A mag I have at home is saying sub 4 seconds 0-60mph for the 10 speed auto.
Say 0-100km/h in 4.0 or 4.1 - Pretty impressive.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:10 PM   #34
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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

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It's only "less powerful" because we use a different power rating system.
And the RHS exhaust manifold is a little more restrictive. I think it loses 4kw vs the US setup.

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Plus the Mustang is 250kg lighter than an XR8.
There's also a dyno video on YouTube, the car, making 415 RWHP. I guess revving the thing to 7500 lets you make more power too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO4oNkQ2k8A&t=40s
The weight difference isn't that much. It's more like 100kg.

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I thought i read the aussie mustangs dyno a fair bit less than the american ones, something to do with the exhaust ?? I could be wrong
American dyno's aren't really comparable to ours. They always post stupid high numbers.

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Pretty impressive results.

At the end of the video you can really hear how quick that 10 speed box shifts. I’m sure the box has helped a lot with the times. Will be interesting how the manuals perform when they get out on the track.

Wonder if they have sorted out the headers on the rhd market cars in the new model.

Look forward to them coming into the country next year. The aftermarket world is already ready for them with both whipple and Ford performance/roush already realeasing their supercharger kit for it. Seems the autos will be 10sec cars pretty easily.

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Old 09-11-2017, 04:43 PM   #35
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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

As Boss said, RHS header is more restrictive than US cars. This is due to a narrowing of one section to clear steering on the RHD models. Fit headers and this disappears.

Not sure yet if this has been addressed on MY18.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:03 PM   #36
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Review with the Chief Program Engineer. I like this new platform, not as nose-heavy as the previous generations - got a lovely note to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XZj9QVOwSg
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:31 PM   #37
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If those performance numbers are accurate and measure up out here I might come back to the blue oval.

I jumped the fence for performance when they lost the v8 and the first mustangs here didnt keep up. Not to mention the lack of tech/decontenting over a long time like in my GT.
But I miss having a v8 no matter how good the 5cyl is and was even considering a camaro since fords offerings were all slower than what I moved to and I couldnt afford the rs6/7 performance!

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Old 10-11-2017, 01:05 AM   #38
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I think part of the problem is Foa are not used to "ANNUAL 3rd quarter model updates".................I know this will not happen. But it would be a great opportunity for Foa to pull FPV back off the shelf as a warrantied factory tuner that could access the latest US Ford parts bin for Mustang and gives Aussie customers an option to have the latest Performance Pack updates.......at a price of course.

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Old 11-11-2017, 06:43 PM   #39
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I see the same car just ran an 11.88@119, with a cat back, lowered springs and Mickey et streets.
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Old 12-11-2017, 02:13 PM   #41
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Wow, that little atmo 5.0 V8 keeps getting better and better,
I guess that GT is about the weight of an XR6 so mighty impressive
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Old 12-11-2017, 03:49 PM   #42
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The weight difference isn't that much. It's more like 100kg.
We're both wrong, weight difference is somewhere in between.

FGX XR8 kerb weight = 1861 kg XR8 Weight

2018 Mustang GT Auto kerb (curb in American) weight = 3733 lb = 1693 kg Mustang Weight

Difference of 168kg, which isn't insignificant
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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

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We're both wrong, weight difference is somewhere in between.

FGX XR8 kerb weight = 1861 kg XR8 Weight

2018 Mustang GT Auto kerb (curb in American) weight = 3733 lb = 1693 kg Mustang Weight

Difference of 168kg, which isn't insignificant
168kg is average weight of an american so things become a lot more linebail when you put 2 yanks in a mustang.....
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We're both wrong, weight difference is somewhere in between.

FGX XR8 kerb weight = 1861 kg XR8 Weight

2018 Mustang GT Auto kerb (curb in American) weight = 3733 lb = 1693 kg Mustang Weight

Difference of 168kg, which isn't insignificant

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168kg is over a 3/10 of a sec ET advantage straight up.

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Default Re: Stock 2018 Mustang GT runs 12.02 sec @ 117mph (1.9 60 ft)

Euro spec V8 goes up to 443 bhp from 412. Not sure if that conversion has been done right though as it also says the US spec cars are 454 hp when they are actually 460 hp.

So the numbers might be a bit skewed. But it seems like the power drop is less this time around. Probably due to the new bi-modal exhaust that means they don't need to run such a restrictive exhaust to pass drive by noise tests.

And I think most of the drop can be attributed to the conversion to ECE power ratings and not DIN. The RHD exhaust manifold has been quoted previously as a 4 kw drop cause it's more restrictive to get around the RHD steering shaft. So it looks like the RHD cars should be just as potent as the US spec cars are, or extremely close to it.
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A mate of mine has one of these on order, I can't wait.
I'm sure you'll see a 2nd hand 2015 popup on car sales soon.

They are bloody impressive so far...
The biggest question for me is manual or auto?

Boss I think you have it right in the 2nd paragraph. The anomaly is in the standards conversion.
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They are bloody impressive so far...
The biggest question for me is manual or auto?
Manual if you like a fun drive... 10 Speed Auto if you want the fastest 1/4.
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