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Old 20-04-2006, 09:08 PM   #31
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If you don't like Holdens either don't open this thread, or read through it learn something off it...

I think that Ford changed away from teh E series because the AU's were so different, and again onto the B's because (At the time) Ford wanted to distance themselves as far away as possible from the AU's.
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Old 20-04-2006, 10:01 PM   #32
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i'm surprised ford didnt drop the name 'falcon' in attempt to distance themselves from the AU :P
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Old 20-04-2006, 10:57 PM   #33
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I have a friend of mine who spent 35 years at Ford Brisbane and have it on good authority they nearly used EC after the EB falcon apparantly it is only us Queenslanders that used the abreviation EC for Earth Closet (outside Dunny).

When Ford Melbourne were notified there was a return mail to verify that the abv was actually for real,

This was only about 3 months before the release of the ED falcon
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Old 20-04-2006, 11:41 PM   #34
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i'm surprised ford didnt drop the name 'falcon' in attempt to distance themselves from the AU :P
No making a vehicle that actually looked like a motorcar was enough
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Old 21-04-2006, 01:24 AM   #35
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i dont know why holden used "V" they copied off the valients model numbering scheme, atleast it stood for something on the val's. trust holden to copy from other manufacturers
It amy have already been stated but i couldn't be bothered reading. A somewhat useless comment that is! And when Holden designated the commo's with the big V,Valiant was on to the C's. Love the way people are accusing manufacturers of stealing model id's. Who gives a rats ИИИИ.
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Old 21-04-2006, 04:02 AM   #36
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AU - Alien Unicorn? I think they just keep getting better with age.
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Old 21-04-2006, 11:42 AM   #37
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No making a vehicle that actually looked like a motorcar was enough
pity they also lost the AU's ability to not self destruct after 10,000kms. The BA/BF is excellent at doing that too. _2:


The code AU was based around the standard Ford coding at the time of Australia and rear wheel drive platforms.
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Old 21-04-2006, 03:48 PM   #38
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I do understand that this is FORD FORUMS, and that we do have just a few die hard Ford fans here, but this section is for general automotive chat. If you wanna flame someone about their stock 6 Holden beating V8's (as much as I would also like to), please start another thread or do it via PM.

If this thread just gets worse in bagging out Holdens, someone please lock it because it was not intended to do so in anyway. Just a general conversation about "Whats in a name".
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This should never have started, not to mention let run as it did.

Back on topic or the thread will be completely pulled
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They have still got VD up there sleeve if they want to retain the "V" series
They can also use "VV" or "VW"
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Ahh just stick with MYXX for model year.

Makes it easier for the non-car types to keep up with models.

And I think the VE was Very 'Eavy when compared to the older models weights...

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Old 21-04-2006, 04:43 PM   #42
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Ahh just stick with MYXX for model year.
no. i hate it.

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Old 21-04-2006, 06:45 PM   #43
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no. i hate it.
Fair cop :P

Either way personally doesn't worry me, I grew up with Fords and Holdens, then got to understand the Japanese method as well...

As I said, I was bored this afternoon.
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people should pay atention to what their buying, for instance if theyre looking at buying a falcon, then look a bit at the history or something... i dont know how people can just go out and say i want to buy a "car'...
and on the argument of taking other mnufacturers codes, what about gti? or gt? or gts? or lx, sx and the like... who gives a s**t really... its naming the model of the car, and the grade of it... so people know what it is...
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people should pay atention to what their buying, for instance if theyre looking at buying a falcon, then look a bit at the history or something... i dont know how people can just go out and say i want to buy a "car'...
and on the argument of taking other mnufacturers codes, what about gti? or gt? or gts? or lx, sx and the like... who gives a s**t really... its naming the model of the car, and the grade of it... so people know what it is...
Well, I just bought a "car" and have no idea about what code it is, what position in the range it is or anything about it really.
I looked up some history on issues, made sure it didnt have those issues and we bought it. Does that make me stupid? Or is realy jsut a case of some people look at cars as a comfortable and effective form of transport and really dont care if it has a VX, BF or WXYZ model code.

For the record, I sold the EF, not the AU. We replaced the EF with a Kia Carnival.. hardly something that is anything more than effective comfortable transport.
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Old 22-04-2006, 08:51 AM   #46
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Why does it always have to be two letters?

Why cant they have like the V1 Commodore or something?

Or even like the Skyline R31,32,33,34 etc?
They've already have done that. The Monaro was a "V2".
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I thought the monaro was a CV2 or was that CV8? lol
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The one thing I like about the Commodore series names is they are in chronological order (Well not now with the VE) whereas the Falcons confuse the crap out of me. lol

XK
XL
XM
XP
XR
XT
XW
XY
XA
XB
XC
XD
XE
XF
EA
EB
ED
EF
EL
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BA
BF

I hope I got that right. lol

Anyway it just looks all over the place compared to the Commodores. IMO
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Maybe they won't even use the VE designation, like Ford with the AV really being the BA?
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The one thing I like about the Commodore series names is they are in chronological order (Well not now with the VE) whereas the Falcons confuse the crap out of me. lol

XK
XL
XM
XP
XR
XT
XW
XY
XA
XB
XC
XD
XE
XF
EA
EB
ED
EF
EL
AU
BA
BF

I hope I got that right. lol

Anyway it just looks all over the place compared to the Commodores. IMO
Problem with comparing the Falcon with the Commodore is that the Falcon has been around alot longer.
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Anyway it just looks all over the place compared to the Commodores. IMO
Try the pre-Commodore Holdens then, at least Ford are pretty easy to follow provide you know that they start with XL and XA comes after XY.

48-215, FJ, FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH, HD, HR, HK, HT, HG, HQ, HJ, HX, HZ, WB
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I think the most likely replacement for the VE could be the VJ, but who knows after then?
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Try the pre-Commodore Holdens then, at least Ford are pretty easy to follow provide you know that they start with XL and XA comes after XY.

48-215, FJ, FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH, HD, HR, HK, HT, HG, HQ, HJ, HX, HZ, WB
You forgot the FX.

Yeah I was thinking about that today.

It is pretty confusing.
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The one thing I like about the Commodore series names is they are in chronological order (Well not now with the VE) whereas the Falcons confuse the crap out of me. lol

XK
XL
XM
XP
XR
XT
XW
XY
XA
XB
XC
XD
XE
XF
EA
EB
ED
EF
EL
AU
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BF

I hope I got that right. lol

Anyway it just looks all over the place compared to the Commodores. IMO
XG and XH in there too champ....
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