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06-01-2011, 06:29 PM | #31 | |||
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Just wondering if a fixed price (ie non-discounted) Falcon at a set 3% interest would be a better way of boosting sales and maintaining resale vs heavily discounted...seems to have helped Coralla big time.
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06-01-2011, 08:54 PM | #33 | |||
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If Ford on the other hand did this finance offer it'd be poorly marketed, the dealers would not offer the service, if the car falls apart the consumer will be left in the dark, and after telling everyone about their bad experience will buy elsewhere. Short gain means nothing if it's not sustainable. Now maybe I'm just negative Nancy, and perhaps all this talk about bad Ford dealers is blown out of proportion as we're all Ford nuts, but there is no use running programs like this if you can't get the rest of the buying experience up to scratch. The person who said it's easier to keep a client as apposed get them, or more so buy them, back is spot on. Ford have the cars, we all know that, but before running big promotions they need to smooth over the buying experience.
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Spot on, My eb is belittled by the Fg and there is no need for a car that big, it is great but when a carolla or focus has as much space as my EB then maybe ford should look at shrinking down a little bit and change perceptions about them being big thirsty boats |
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does anyone know how to get hold of the figures for the new GT and GS sedans and utes. Im not sure if they are included in the falcon numbers or not...i cant remember...but individual numbers would be very interesting to see at this early stage.
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06-01-2011, 10:29 PM | #36 | |||
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i think what you meant to say was that you don't need a car that big. the commodore is a similar size which means there is still over 5000 people every month that do buy large sized cars. i agree though that many people realise that they can get by with a smaller vehicle, and when you start looking at smaller vehicles the range and choices are huge. |
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06-01-2011, 10:49 PM | #37 | ||
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With the economy going sour again, 2011 will not exceed the 1 million sales mark.
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There are some November year to date totals in Technical Resources
by deducting them from the full year figures I come up with: Falcon 1939 Commodore 3778 Corolla 4955 Mazda 3 3439 Cruze 2081 i30 1986 Lancer 1602 Getz 1577 |
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Our first set of graphical data (for the month of December) has now been uploaded into the Tech Portal.
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07-01-2011, 08:38 AM | #41 | ||
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no good selling massive amounts of cars if youre not making any money on them, people seem to forget that!
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L/W/H: Corolla: 4545/1760/1470 EF:4906/1861/1453 HUGE difference in length, massive 10cm wider. Corolla is 1.7cm taller, but that's barely enough to notice. |
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New Lancer is same size as original 1984 Magna
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Commodore 3778 Falcon 1939 Aurion 1,309 Commodore Ute 777 Falcon Ute 467 Ranger 4x2 365 Ranger 4x4 ??? Caprice 329 Yaris 1,919 Getz 1,577 Swift 1,110 Fiesta 1,020 Barina 979 Micra 688 Jazz 682 Corolla 4,955 Mazda 3 3,419 Cruze 2,081 Lancer 1,602 VW Golf 1,147 Imprezza 1,020 Focus 963 Camry 3236 Mazda 6 481 Liberty 439 Accord 382 Mondeo 375 Kluger 1,548 Prado 1,301 Territory 859 Captiva 744 |
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Russell, I hate to be pedantic but you keep mispelling "Impreza" as "Imprezza". There's only one "z". (Perhaps this is payback for everyone who mispells your name with only one "s" or "l" ? )
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Too late now but pity Ford didn't try the 3.2 I-6 in XT to match 3.0 SIDI Omega for more government fleet sales couldn't hurt and the smaller engine would distance XT from G and XR variants. Anyways, Ecoboost I-4 arrives later this year, pity diesel wasn't available in Falcon and Ute... |
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Fiesta is doing well, should do better hopefully. Focus3 cannot come quick enough, Ford is losing too many sales in this segment. Mondeo should be selling better. It is a good car, far better than the mediocre Camry. Hopefully the new Territory can bring back some sales. The new one needs to be a good car.
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The Falcon duo is doing ok considering fleets shy away in December, and no factory LPG setup is available, I guess the figures are to be expected. When do we get LPG back, the news room has gone quiet on it?
However the Fiesta had a bumper month. All this without the WT Zetec. Number four is fantastic. Mondeo did ok, just seems to be always a nose away from middle of the sales pack. Taking into account that the two biggest movers and shakers in the market are the small car class (Focus) and the small SUV class (Escape) the new Focus and Kuga/Escape are needed to get Ford clear of Mazda and into five figures every month. Quote:
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Head office is fully aware of what is going on, FoA needs to maintain
profitability by stringing out costs and in doing so, vehicles get delayed. Sure it would have been a tall order to deliver the LP Gas and new Territory by Q3 or Q4 last year but that would have forced the division into a loss for 2010. Ford head office wants a great 2010 result from all regions and they will get it. ^^^^ The costs and accelerated engineering resources needed for both were either not possible or unrealistic to the perceived returns from delivering earlier. Last edited by jpd80; 07-01-2011 at 12:34 PM. |
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The Supplementary Statistics are uploaded into the Tech portal now. I shall make a note to amend the spelling of the Subaru.
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07-01-2011, 01:26 PM | #57 | |||
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That argument is getting tired. Ok so they have cost cut the whole Falcon supply chain and squeezed what money they can from each car. Whats next? Thats right. They have to sell more cars. Like Holden does. |
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07-01-2011, 01:30 PM | #58 | ||
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Ford didnt get a handout like GM did from the Obama administration, if they sell enough cars to make a profit and cover there overheads, who cares what the final number of cars sold is. The falcon was the best selling 6 cylinder sedan last month
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I thought I'd throw this one in -
http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.c...rticle/1367848 Ford are TOP in vehicle sales in Canada in 2010. |
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07-01-2011, 01:56 PM | #60 | |||
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It would have been a lot quicker and cheaper to introduce a 3.2 I6 than the 2.0 GTDI engine. They could have got about 145kW and 310 Nm from the 3.2 engine which mated to the ZF 6 speed auto would have performed well. I hope the new LPG engine is released this year as planned (i.e no further delays) |
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