Which is the biggest nanny state? - Page 2

**Silver Ghia** · 21-10-2006, 11:05 PM

Cant say which is the biggest Nanny state as I have only driven in Victoria for some years now (apart from UK), but Victoria is definitely a BIG nanny state.

There is an assumption that all accidents are caused by speed only, and there is a big campaign at the moment called 'knock off 5", to avoid crashes. I'm still trying to work out what to knock 5 from, the speed limit, 5 kmph above the speed limit that some may travel at, or what? It just doesn't make any sense.

**GasoLane** · 21-10-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

There is an assumption that all accidents are caused by speed only, and there is a big campaign at the moment called 'knock off 5", to avoid crashes. I'm still trying to work out what to knock 5 from, the speed limit, 5 kmph above the speed limit that some may travel at, or what? It just doesn't make any sense.

Almost as funny as the "every K over is a killer" campaign. Every K over what? Zero?

xe351 · 22-10-2006, 12:33 PM

well, being a new victorian (formerly nsw) i can say that VIC Sucks - its not about saving lives here its all about revenue, not to mention all the extra road rage with alot of locals doing 10km under and not keeping left, gives me the s####

xe351 · 22-10-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Cant say which is the biggest Nanny state as I have only driven in Victoria for some years now (apart from UK), but Victoria is definitely a BIG nanny state.

There is an assumption that all accidents are caused by speed only, and there is a big campaign at the moment called 'knock off 5", to avoid crashes. I'm still trying to work out what to knock 5 from, the speed limit, 5 kmph above the speed limit that some may travel at, or what? It just doesn't make any sense.

so true. I've avoided more accidents here from people doing under the limit than anywhere else (except maybe adelaide). Cant wait to move to another state

new2ford · 22-10-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

On my annual tour I cringe everytime I cross into Victoria as without a doubt your guys are being brainwashed.

Its so farcical leaving either SA or NSW on the highway at 110 and as soon as you cross into Vic its 100 on the same frigging road. Then every few k's you now get bombarded with have a powernap sign. Whats the go, can't you guys drive a few k's without nodding off.

Between the constant BS signs and trying doing 100 on a perfect road it's a real PITA.

Then to top it off you can get pinged for doing 3k's over the limit, even if your speedo is out new from the factory !!! Give me a break.

Problem is there's some great country to see

Agree with all this ozrunner. This is also the state that gets the high speed XPT train to slow down from 160kph in NSW to 100 kph on a dead straight track in Victoria. And they've got boat owners around Australia up in arms with a law to make you wear a life jacket at all times - even when in bed asleep. In spite of the well known fact that it's dangerous to wear a lifejacket inside a boat because you can get trapped when it goes down.

State of the Armchair Bureaucrat.

BPXR6T · 22-10-2006, 01:16 PM

All I know is I've been in more trouble with the law in Victoria than anywhere else in Australia.

I'm living in the ACT for the next few months. Rego sucks at $800 but the speed cameras are a joke. Big white vans with huge signs on the roof saying speed camera.

Boss 290 · 22-10-2006, 01:34 PM

what would happen if australia had a revolution? nothing the government couldnt do anything...so if you are going to complain either do it legally with protets and letters. or just march up to the councils with a few thousand people and demand they change the rules to your likeing if not you will kick them out of their cushy job. its ridiculous how the government can worry what happens over seas when they continue to lay these kind of laws down to us.

MITCHAY · 22-10-2006, 01:40 PM

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Fireworks and Porn perhaps????

You can even buy fireworks whilst buying porno or vice-versa lol!

I love living in the ACT.

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss 290

what would happen if australia had a revolution? nothing the government couldnt do anything...so if you are going to complain either do it legally with protets and letters. or just march up to the councils with a few thousand people and demand they change the rules to your likeing if not you will kick them out of their cushy job. its ridiculous how the government can worry what happens over seas when they continue to lay these kind of laws down to us.

Dead correct BOSS290. Its fine to have a whinge and a b1tch, but, follow with letters and emails and protests (legal) if you dont like a law. We are starting to "people power" here in the NT with these BS speed laws......

From what I have read about VIC on this thread, it would seem that is the worst state in OZ for having your civil liberties erroded. What will it be next, no bonking in your car?!? Will the state gov down there ever learn that you just cant legislate people into submission.

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 02:01 PM

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You can even buy fireworks whilst buying porno or vice-versa lol!

I love living in the ACT.

I suppose that you get a bang out of this either way..... :evil3:

Boss 290 · 22-10-2006, 02:08 PM

not to mention marjuana is legal for your own possesion in a.c.t...its seems to me that the fat cats in parliment enjoy a bit of a smoke, then a toss and a bang at the end lol

Boss 290 · 22-10-2006, 02:11 PM

come to think of it that would explain why alot of them are tossers and they must be smoking some bad stuff to think of those bogus rules...cheers

p.s i know that melbourne is not the a.c.t but i was refering to the country as a whole

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss 290

not to mention marjuana is legal for your own possesion in a.c.t...its seems to me that the fat cats in parliment enjoy a bit of a smoke, then a toss and a bang at the end lol

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I had to laugh at this, but then I had a mental picture of Johhnie and Janet, then almost vomitted!!!!

Boss 290 · 22-10-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

:hihi: :hihi:

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I had to laugh at this, but then I had a mental picture of Johhnie and Janet, then almost vomitted!!!!

lol now i have to think of that

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss 290

lol now i have to think of that

GOOD, its your fault that I thought of it in the first place.......

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bob 351 · 22-10-2006, 05:31 PM

i dont know why everyone is bagging victoria i have lived here all my life had licence this i was 21 i am now 51 been booked once a couple years ago in my sons xf dam quick car for a six crossflow 1point $170 fine cant complain about that

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bob 351

i dont know why everyone is bagging victoria i have lived here all my life had licence this i was 21 i am now 51 been booked once a couple years ago in my sons xf dam quick car for a six crossflow 1point $170 fine cant complain about that

Its not so much what have they done to you, as, what they can do to you. If ya catch me drift.

bob 351 · 22-10-2006, 05:47 PM

ye i suppose the cop could have been nasty and put yellow sticker on car it was a bit low and very loud just like it will be at the rodger waters show in feb 2007 still cant wait

bob 351 · 22-10-2006, 05:52 PM

ye i suppose the cop could have been nasty and put yellow sticker on car it was a bit low and very loud just like it will be at the rodger waters show in feb 2007 still cant wait

Outbackjack · 22-10-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bob 351

ye i suppose the cop could have been nasty and put yellow sticker on car it was a bit low and very loud just like it will be at the rodger waters show in feb 2007 still cant wait

Feb 5, BNE, got my tickets and flights all booked. Can't wait.......

T_Terror · 22-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Why isnt this a poll?

Yeah Victoria sucks the hardest.

They will go down!

ltd · 22-10-2006, 08:47 PM

I'd say NSW and Vic were a tie, but for different reasons.

Vic may have worse speed camera calibration and no signage, but NSW has thought police to stop people talking about problems within NSW.

BTW, a friend of mine who works for westlink told me that in NSW they are considering using E-tags to measure point to point on the M7 and other alike roads for the purpose of working out if you have been speeding. Also, the RTA has confirmed that they are looking at expanding the technology of the road safety cams to monitor traffic speeds, in order to issue infringements. Our Nanny is called morris.

samftr · 22-10-2006, 08:56 PM

well can morris and brax. surprised you havent already down there.

ltd · 22-10-2006, 09:03 PM

Not so easy mate, in both states the opposition is a joke.

new2ford · 22-10-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

BTW, a friend of mine who works for westlink told me that in NSW they are considering using E-tags to measure point to point on the M7 and other alike roads for the purpose of working out if you have been speeding. Also, the RTA has confirmed that they are looking at expanding the technology of the road safety cams to monitor traffic speeds, in order to issue infringements. Our Nanny is called morris.

Ooh how nasty! Keepleft where are you when we need you?

But by the way, how many of you know that your car's computer will advise the police what you were doing just before that crash? You're still safe to pick your nose though. I don't think the technology's advanced that far.

Soon we won't even have to get out of bed. Big Brother will do everything for us.

ltd · 22-10-2006, 09:27 PM

Let's just hope the big brother you speak of is nothing like the morally bereft pre pubescent imbeciles at channel 10. I can handle the fines but to have an absolute moron like gretel watch my life would drive me to suicide.