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23-09-2007, 08:32 PM | #31 | ||
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Whats the point of how fast a stock car is?
If you get beaten by a modded one,your still beaten.. And in heads up racing,the fastest car wont always win,think about that one.. |
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23-09-2007, 08:51 PM | #32 | |||
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Granted you'll rarely find an unmodified car on this forum, but the stock quarter mile times are a fairly good indicator of the performance of the car.
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24-09-2007, 12:29 AM | #33 | |||
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24-09-2007, 01:25 AM | #34 | |||
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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=6669911 Also BFF6 (Jimmy) in Sydney done 12.9.. there is a string of 13.2's and my slug done 13.3.
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24-09-2007, 02:08 AM | #35 | ||
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its the f6 without a doubt . full stop.
the auIII 220 KW was the 1st v8 to officially match the phase 3 @14.4 sec qrtr. then the ts50 took it to neeww levels @14 flat. the ba gt recorde 13.8 officially. dont know offically what 6 spd bf, has recorded. but the f6 officially recorded 13.3. |
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24-09-2007, 02:22 AM | #36 | ||
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Fastest 1/4 mile stock Falcons in order would be something like...
1. FPV F6 Typhoon (BAII-BFII) 2. FPV GT (BA-BFII) 3. Ford TE50 (AUIII) 4. Ford Falcon GT-HO PhaseIII (XY) 5. Ford Falcon XR8 (BA-BFII) 6. Ford Falcon GT-HO PhaseII (XW) 7. Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo (BA-BFII) 8. Ford Falcon XT V8 (BF-BFII) 9. Ford Falcon XR8 220i (AUII-AUIII) & Ford TE50 (AUII) & TS50 (AU) - Same engine 10. Ford Falcon GT-HO PhaseI (XW) That'd be a Top 10. Thought of by memory as long as it took to type that, so I might re-arrange some things if I bother to look into it a bit better, but that's roughly it.
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24-09-2007, 03:01 AM | #37 | ||||
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But the point you make is a good one. Some would have the perception that their car is faster than the guy's beside them because they read it somewhere in a magazine... then they start scratching their heads after they get spanked. Like the guy in his VE SS who got his ar%e handed to him TWICE by MYLO_XR6 in his NA6. He was very confused after learning MYLO's car wasn't boosted.
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24-09-2007, 11:21 AM | #38 | |||
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7. Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo (BFII) 13.7 I know 2 of them that run that bog stock.
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24-09-2007, 06:01 PM | #39 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:09 PM | #40 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:14 PM | #41 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:18 PM | #42 | ||
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A BA V8 XT is not quicker than an AU3...
And 70caprigt3k XR5 Turbos are manual only, not sure how you ran an auto one - and they're good for a high 14. |
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24-09-2007, 06:20 PM | #43 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:22 PM | #44 | ||
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I agree with soulfire.
And you can go back alot further than the AU to find something quicker around the track than the ol' GTHO's... EB XR6 would most likely do the job.
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24-09-2007, 06:23 PM | #45 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:24 PM | #46 | |||
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24-09-2007, 06:33 PM | #47 | ||
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Well, Steffo, while I haven't owned a 6 speed 230kw, I did work for a Ford dealership, and my XR8 had a bit on a BF2 Ghia with that powertrain combo.
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24-09-2007, 06:37 PM | #48 | |||
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Old tyres aside, i very much doubt it, i have been in a Hoey, they go like stink and don't handle as bad as some may think. Pulled 240kph in no time, would eat any EB round Bathurst. |
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24-09-2007, 06:43 PM | #49 | ||
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12s for a ZF, F6 with BMC Filter. Gotta set record doesn't it???
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24-09-2007, 06:45 PM | #50 | |||
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I beg to differ. Can't remember what I did with that magazine but it had an EB XR8 managing similar (if not better) times than the HO P3. Both cars were taken around on the same day. But you could argue the Hoey wouldn't have been pushed to its limit. Debatable.
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24-09-2007, 06:54 PM | #51 | |||
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The HO's were/are seriously quick, there is no comparison. Cheers. |
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24-09-2007, 06:56 PM | #52 | ||
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Go and get a Hoey, and go and get a BF F6 with ZF. Which one is gonna pull a faster ET? And then a faster lap time.
Typhoon, modern day HOey...
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24-09-2007, 07:02 PM | #53 | |||
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24-09-2007, 07:06 PM | #54 | |||
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No one disputes this, the call was E series vs Hoey. |
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24-09-2007, 07:08 PM | #55 | |||
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Development, the F6 driveline will kill it. The rise in emissions, and safety standards has led to more development, placed into all aspects of the car... Not just engine.. Cheers
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24-09-2007, 07:10 PM | #56 | ||
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Factory output of the PH3 was probably around the 380hp mark, they also weighed bugger all.
The modern day GT and T3 are probably very close to the performance of the HO3, the fastest factory Aussie Ford to date is without doubt the F6. |
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24-09-2007, 07:13 PM | #57 | ||
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wow! i didnt realise how fast the tyhoon was! might have to go shopping
what about the fastest holden???
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24-09-2007, 07:17 PM | #58 | |||
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24-09-2007, 07:29 PM | #59 | |||
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What is the EBGT? I test drove one when they were new at Dominelli ford,IMO they are more an "image car" than anything. Have a drive of one of these old cars with a good set of tyres and then decide,untill you do that you are just guessing. Do you realise that there is 3 seconds a lap from today real good street tyres to a set of semi slicks,imagine the difference to the tyres of the 70's? You cant transfer the times from back then to now,the tyres are a million times better,the track prep too,I wasnt going to bring this up for fear of stirring up a hornets nest,but a friend of mine has basically a "HO" spec engine in an XY fairmont,and it ran a fly's dick off a 12 on street tyres with a 3.5 rear/toploader combo. The XY is lighter and these "built to spec" engines are making just shy of 400hp,its not rocket science to work it out,1500kgx390hp.. |
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24-09-2007, 07:34 PM | #60 | ||
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Here's food for thought... Moffat held the lap record in his Phase 3 in 1972 with a 2.35.
I know this will ruffle a few feathers and ego's but this year at the Bathurst 12hr event a BFXR8 out shone all the other local products including XR6T, F6 and T3 as the first local car home.. Best Lap times: XR6T 2.46.. F6 2.39.88 T3 2.40.67 XR8 2.40.60 (Moffat in 72 in the H3: 2.35) Yes i know the circuit has changed, but they've improved it allot too....
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