Ranger Outsells Hilux - Page 2

Vesper Martini · 04-09-2015, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sioso

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638

Basically a Navara I believe

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EDManual

have a new model dmax 3.0 (manual), and would you believe I get 7.5-7.8 litres per hundred, and thats with it floored everywhere, and sitting on at least 110 on the highways. Cant believe it actually!
My light comes on at around 880km usually, I ran it to 980km (100 on the light) Filled up and did ~7.5!

In saying that it is a work car, and the last driver has worn the synchro in 3rd, and its going in for a week long gearbox pull apart! (80,000km). They say that the gearbox is straight from a landcrusier ute.

Much prefer manuals but definitely NOT for a tow vehicle particularly a Ranger. Aisin auto in MU-X/D-MAX is bulletproof. Would still fit an ext trans cooler, but would on any auto as a matter of course.

Sioso · 04-09-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Basically a Navara I believe

Yep, and to be shared with Merc also.........

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 12:08 PM

When you have weeks to spare Google Navara problems. And at the large Nissan/VW stealership I was employed at 40% of daily service bookings were warranty work, truly not funny for the owners.

comagutsa · 04-09-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sioso

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638

looks good

**buggerlugs** · 04-09-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mac_man_luke

Its so surprising the Ranger has not been outselling the hilux for at least a year or two.

All i see on the road is Rangers, so many more than hilux'es

Considering Hilux has been a huge seller and number one ute in Australia for many many years, and your seeing more Rangers than Hilux, that is surprising.......

BA Supa Pursuit · 04-09-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by comagutsa

looks good

Looks great.

rjk74 · 04-09-2015, 08:14 PM

Read somewhere that they fitted a smaller to the Ranger, wonder how that will work out in the long run.

mac_man_luke · 04-09-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Considering Hilux has been a huge seller and number one ute in Australia for many many years, and your seeing more Rangers than Hilux, that is surprising.......

When i say more rangers than hilux'es I'm comparing same age range.

Especially when your out in the country.

Im guessing lots of the lux'es are fleet / mines

rst2000 · 04-09-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rjk74

Read somewhere that they fitted a smaller to the Ranger, wonder how that will work out in the long run.

ok i will bite, smaller what exactly.......

SM1DY · 04-09-2015, 10:04 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

NP300 STX
Sunroof, reversing camera, leather, 7 spd, auto everything, 7L/100km, $54k ex. on-road costs.

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SM1DY

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

NP300 STX
Sunroof, reversing camera, leather, 7 spd, auto everything, 7L/100km, $54k ex. on-road costs.

You forgot the wondrous reliability and backup service................

Ben73 · 04-09-2015, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Considering Hilux has been a huge seller and number one ute in Australia for many many years, and your seeing more Rangers than Hilux, that is surprising.......

I also reckon I see as many Rangers and Hiluxs of the same age.

When highly modified the Ranger has got to be the best looking ute on the road.
Amarok front end looks the best stock imo.

1TUFFUTE · 05-09-2015, 05:11 AM

Sales wars aren't the deciding factor when judging the best truck.
The Ranger also hasn't won world ute of the year more then once for nothing

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SumoDog68 · 05-09-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

You forgot the wondrous reliability and backup service................

I am member of Navara group and while there were issues with timing chains on YD , clutch issues on manuals etc most guys have had pretty good run with their D40s. D22 is basic and tough ute. New NP300 is unknown quantity at the moment as only couple of guys have them .
You can google any of the major brands and find lists of problems with their cars. Hilux ,Ranger ,Triton all have their common issues.
Mine is 550 and didn't need any warranty work in 90k . I did replace a side mirror due to my reversing mistake and it was not the cheapest. My local dealer is not too bad . I am not brand loyalist and buy whatever I like ,can afford and it suits my purpose.

**buggerlugs** · 05-09-2015, 07:41 AM

I quite like the look of the new Navara. Not everyone can afford the Hilux or Ranger either........

sprintman1 · 05-09-2015, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

I am member of Navara group and while there were issues with timing chains on YD , clutch issues on manuals etc most guys have had pretty good run with their D40s. D22 is basic and tough ute. New NP300 is unknown quantity at the moment as only couple of guys have them .
You can google any of the major brands and find lists of problems with their cars. Hilux ,Ranger ,Triton all have their common issues.
Mine is 550 and didn't need any warranty work in 90k . I did replace a side mirror due to my reversing mistake and it was not the cheapest. My local dealer is not too bad . I am not brand loyalist and buy whatever I like ,can afford and it suits my purpose.

I worked for one of Nissans largest stealerships in the country. I wouldn't own a free one! Each to their own..............

Dr Smith · 05-09-2015, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Much prefer manuals but definitely NOT for a tow vehicle particularly a Ranger. Aisin auto in MU-X/D-MAX is bulletproof. Would still fit an ext trans cooler, but would on any auto as a matter of course.

Would that be the same Aisin brand auto that VW used in their T5's (pre dsg) etc....that are so bullet proof the target board is stronger, lol...as the owner of VW's for 21 years and on my third transmission in a 2007 T5, I'd back that brand of auto anytime.....NOT.

sprintman1 · 05-09-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Would that be the same Aisin brand auto that VW used in their T5's (pre dsg) etc....that are so bullet proof the target board is stronger, lol...as the owner of VW's for 21 years and on my third transmission in a 2007 T5, I'd back that brand of auto anytime.....NOT.

Different transmission. Oldie but bulletproof in fact never replaced/repaired one. Think Landcruiser 200 Series and they helped set Toyotas reliability reputation, now gone of course thanks to 'outsourcing'.

Dr Smith · 05-09-2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Different transmission. Oldie but bulletproof in fact never replaced/repaired one. Think Landcruiser 200 Series and they helped set Toyotas reliability reputation, now gone of course thanks to 'outsourcing'.

So we're both living in the past, lol....

sprintman1 · 05-09-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

So we're both living in the past, lol....

At my age I have no choice..........

Rob 351 · 05-09-2015, 08:31 AM

We have 2 Rangers & imo it's hard to believe it took so long to out sell them really! There a great ute & in a totally different class to Hilux as it does just about everything so much better.
Interesting to see how the new Hilux stacks up against PX2 but with the new Hilux still lacking in power, I still reckon it will be a step behind!

dallasv8 · 05-09-2015, 08:34 AM

We have 5 d-max's at our mine site. It's a small mine and they don't get treated that bad.
Oil needs topping up fortnightly, as does brake fluid. i think the highest km one has 25000 on the clock.Drivers seat belt has been replaced 3 times as it randomly un-clips. They stall if you are in high 4 up a hill and you lose traction when the traction control cuts in. Yes you could use low 4 but the hiluxe's climbed the same hills fine. 2wd on any sort of gravel slopes is damn annoying with the traction control.
You need to pull half the dash out to change the air con air filter, but at least it has a filter.
In saying that it they are a bit higher than the hiluxe's we had, and a little more bottom end power,either that or they are geared a bit lower.

sprintman1 · 05-09-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dallasv8

We have 5 d-max's at our mine site. It's a small mine and they don't get treated that bad.
Oil needs topping up fortnightly, as does brake fluid. i think the highest km one has 25000 on the clock.Drivers seat belt has been replaced 3 times as it randomly un-clips. They stall if you are in high 4 up a hill and you lose traction when the traction control cuts in. Yes you could use low 4 but the hiluxe's climbed the same hills fine. 2wd on any sort of gravel slopes is damn annoying with the traction control.
You need to pull half the dash out to change the air con air filter, but at least it has a filter.
In saying that it they are a bit higher than the hiluxe's we had, and a little more bottom end power,either that or they are geared a bit lower.

A mine is the toughest environment for any vehicle (I used to do work at defunct Woodlawn Mine way way back). Who is servicing these vehicles?

Cobra · 05-09-2015, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dallasv8

We have 5 d-max's at our mine site. It's a small mine and they don't get treated that bad.
Oil needs topping up fortnightly, as does brake fluid. i think the highest km one has 25000 on the clock.Drivers seat belt has been replaced 3 times as it randomly un-clips. They stall if you are in high 4 up a hill and you lose traction when the traction control cuts in. Yes you could use low 4 but the hiluxe's climbed the same hills fine. 2wd on any sort of gravel slopes is damn annoying with the traction control.
You need to pull half the dash out to change the air con air filter, but at least it has a filter.
In saying that it they are a bit higher than the hiluxe's we had, and a little more bottom end power,either that or they are geared a bit lower.

That's a bit of a stretch to suggest that. I've replaced plenty of them and it's as simple as glovebox out and a couple of small plastic panels. If you want a bastard of an A/C filter to replace, try changing one on a Volvo, especially a V40.

Cobra · 05-09-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

You couldn't be any more vague if you tried!

Cobra · 05-09-2015, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

What's the deal with a 4JJ1 conrod compared to others?

sprintman1 · 05-09-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra

What's the deal with a 4JJ1 conrod compared to others?

H beam style, twice the width and bearing surface area etc.

comagutsa · 05-09-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

I worked for one of Nissans largest stealerships in the country. I wouldn't own a free one! Each to their own..............

i used to for a ford dealership, but i still own a ford with all the crap i seen going wrong with them

my mrs owns a D40 and its been great since we brought it 4 yr ago and its even a manual

gotta agree with sumodog every brand has its faults
working in a dealership makes you not want to buy the brand they sell coz you see them all the time with faults

each to their own

dallasv8 · 05-09-2015, 07:46 PM

Getting serviced locally.
5 screws,glovebox and a heap of little plastic green clips that disappear. Seems like half the dash lol.