Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 27-01-2024, 07:36 PM   #31
Fordman1
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
Fordman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,799
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by simon varley View Post
mmmmm, there's a v6 everest raptor somewhere. If i remember correctly, codename whitetail
v8 ? No
Fordman1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-01-2024, 08:27 PM   #32
Top_Ghia
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,693
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: has been consistently providing good technical advice etc. to AFF members, by having the vast technical knowledge he has with the various Ford products. A valuable AFF member 
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by simon varley View Post
mmmmm, there's a V6 Everest Raptor somewhere. If I remember correctly, codename Whitetail

Top_Ghia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-01-2024, 09:24 PM   #33
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,458
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top_Ghia View Post
Would be pretty good… and what would you need to spend to get a near 300kW SUV from any other brand?
Edit: Carsales shows the cheapest new SUV with 300kW is the Alfa starting at $180,000+
Dr Smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-01-2024, 10:20 PM   #34
Big_Daz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brisbane (Southside)
Posts: 1,168
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Or just partner with Herrod, cover it under factory warranty and allow you to order it from the dealership,

Before you even take delivery of the car its off to Herrod for them to work their magic and it's covered under Ford's full factory warranty, you just tick the box and it's all rolled into finance/lease et al like they have with ARB.
Holden dealers did this with VF Commodore.. You could have them add performance packs pre delivery, by the dealer, and have it included on the contract/rolled into the lease/financing. Main difference between that and your idea is that the drivetrain warranty was covered by Walkinshaw (who was the main one) or Tekno (ther other option at the time) with holden warranting the remainder of the vehicle like normal. Could also do suspension, wheels and some interior stuff.

When I bought my redline in 2017 I looked into it.. Walkinshaw started with Exhaust/Intake/Tune to that you could add cam, supercharger (with or without the cam) up to 547kw. I didnt bother a I had a workshop in mind to use that I think was better but apparently it was popular.... ANd a decent idea for someone who wants some more grunt but needs to lease/doesnt want to deal with it himself....
__________________
2008 FG XR6 Turbo ZF In Sensation - Gone, but not Forgotten....

Hers: 2024 Ford Everest Platinum in Equinox Bronze
His Daily: 2020 (MY21) Kia Sorento GT-Line in Mineral Blue
His Weekender: 2017 Commodore SSV Redline manual in Light My Fire Orange
Big_Daz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-01-2024, 11:32 PM   #35
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Smith View Post
Would be pretty good… and what would you need to spend to get a near 300kW SUV from any other brand?
Edit: Carsales shows the cheapest new SUV with 300kW is the Alfa starting at $180,000+
Patrol isn't six figures.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-01-2024, 10:25 AM   #36
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,458
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
Patrol isn't six figures.
Should have lowered my Carsales "Engine power" search to just under 300kW
Dr Smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-01-2024, 10:30 AM   #37
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,433
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Remember when you could get 270-300KW new cars for $40K, now $40K buys a mid-spec Hybrid Corolla with 72KW
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
7 users like this post:
Old 28-01-2024, 10:35 AM   #38
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,458
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Remember when you could get 270-300KW new cars for $40K, now $40K buys a mid-spec Hybrid Corolla with 72KW
If not for the donut sitting next to my coffee mug I'd be sad right now. I've always wished I kept my G6ET..and also wondered what was it's real stock power output...anyone know if was slightly more than 270kW?
Dr Smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 28-01-2024, 04:51 PM   #39
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 25,939
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Smith View Post
If not for the donut sitting next to my coffee mug I'd be sad right now. I've always wished I kept my G6ET..and also wondered what was it's real stock power output...anyone know if was slightly more than 270kW?
Ford were always conservative with the 6T, as to not 'impede' on the bigger, better V8's. Many dynoed with what would appear more than the stated flywheel kw number throughout the life of the engine from BA to FGX
Much the same with the blown 5L.

And yes you should have kept it!
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 09:18 AM   #40
78xcgxl
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
78xcgxl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: VIC
Posts: 1,130
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Ford needs to allow V6 petrol and V8 petrol engines as an optional extra across the range. This will allow for full 3500kg towing capacity and payloads. Imagine getting a XL single cab ranger with a 5.0 coyote V8 !
78xcgxl is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 10:16 AM   #41
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,433
Arrow Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by 78xcgxl View Post
Ford needs to allow V6 petrol and V8 petrol engines as an optional extra across the range. This will allow for full 3500kg towing capacity and payloads. Imagine getting a XL single cab ranger with a 5.0 coyote V8 !
2.3L Ecoboost and 7.3L Godzilla would be more appropriate for the type of vehicle rather than Coyote IMO
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 10:17 AM   #42
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,458
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJM83 View Post
Ford were always conservative with the 6T, as to not 'impede' on the bigger, better V8's. Many dynoed with what would appear more than the stated flywheel kw number throughout the life of the engine from BA to FGX
Much the same with the blown 5L.

And yes you should have kept it!
When the buyer arrived to pay and collect he said he was going to the bank to get a bank cheque however on arrival pulled out cash...it took us 3 goes to finally count the money correctly...I did check if any robberies occurred that morning.
Dr Smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 11:14 AM   #43
PooDog
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
PooDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: nz
Posts: 1,850
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
2.3L Ecoboost and 7.3L Godzilla would be more appropriate for the type of vehicle rather than Coyote IMO
Miami would work well too
__________________
Fgx xr8 winter white manual, gone but not forgotten
22 mitsubishi outlander XLS PHEV

Au11 fairmont Ghia ported gt40p heads ,comp springs and locks
Xe 264 cam,custom intake,pacemaker tri y headers
524nm torque

19 Triton GSXR manual
PooDog is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 11:54 AM   #44
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Smith View Post
When the buyer arrived to pay and collect he said he was going to the bank to get a bank cheque however on arrival pulled out cash...it took us 3 goes to finally count the money correctly...I did check if any robberies occurred that morning.
I'd be more worried about a robbery occurring 10mins after the guy left.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 12:08 PM   #45
Big_Daz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brisbane (Southside)
Posts: 1,168
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJM83 View Post
Ford were always conservative with the 6T, as to not 'impede' on the bigger, better V8's. Many dynoed with what would appear more than the stated flywheel kw number throughout the life of the engine from BA to FGX
Much the same with the blown 5L.

And yes you should have kept it!
My FG XR6T with the ZF dyno'd at 365hp at the wheels with only a K&N panel filter in the stock airbox.. which equates to 270kw or so...

Miami blown 5 litre was the same... 335kw? Yeah right, try 400... Ford telling pork pies there....
__________________
2008 FG XR6 Turbo ZF In Sensation - Gone, but not Forgotten....

Hers: 2024 Ford Everest Platinum in Equinox Bronze
His Daily: 2020 (MY21) Kia Sorento GT-Line in Mineral Blue
His Weekender: 2017 Commodore SSV Redline manual in Light My Fire Orange
Big_Daz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 02:10 PM   #46
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
It's the new 3.8L Ecotec, mang mang mang mang mang mang mang
Imagine what the sand dunes will be like in 15 years...
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 02:11 PM   #47
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
Everest Raptor with a V8 please.
Expedition with Godzilla. Why limit yourself?
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 03:46 PM   #48
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,458
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
I'd be more worried about a robbery occurring 10mins after the guy left.
Yeah that thought entered my mind, went straight to the bank thinking I'm stopping for no-one...
Dr Smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 04:06 PM   #49
DFB FGXR6
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
DFB FGXR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,554
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For the excellent car-care guide 
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by 78xcgxl View Post
Ford needs to allow V6 petrol and V8 petrol engines as an optional extra across the range. This will allow for full 3500kg towing capacity and payloads. Imagine getting a XL single cab ranger with a 5.0 coyote V8 !
I would be sprinting to my dealer and throwing money at the salesman if Ford made that available. Hell, I'd be happy with something other than an asthmatic diesel engine, 2.0 or 2.3 EcoBoost 4, a 2.7 EcoBoost V6. Don't care which, but I'm over diesel.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger
FG XR6
FG X XR8
Mustang GT

T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten
DFB FGXR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 06:43 PM   #50
Top_Ghia
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,693
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: has been consistently providing good technical advice etc. to AFF members, by having the vast technical knowledge he has with the various Ford products. A valuable AFF member 
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
2.3L Ecoboost and 7.3L Godzilla would be more appropriate for the type of vehicle rather than Coyote IMO

I’d like to see a road based 3.0 twin turbo petrol Ranger. Not everyone has the need for such extreme off road capabilities.
Imagine a Ranger ST AWD.
Top_Ghia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 06:52 PM   #51
DFB FGXR6
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
DFB FGXR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,554
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For the excellent car-care guide 
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top_Ghia View Post
I’d like to see a road based 3.0 twin turbo petrol Ranger. Not everyone has the need for such extreme off road capabilities.
Imagine a Ranger ST AWD.
Considering the 2.7 V6 EcoBoost is already used in the T6 platform (Bronco), adding it to the range in theory would be simple. Offer it as direct equivalent to the diesel V6 in price and spec. Considering Ford is production limited with the 3.0 V6 diesel, it could be a good move to offer the petrol V6 to lighten the load. Or even the just the 2.3 EcoBoost.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger
FG XR6
FG X XR8
Mustang GT

T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten
DFB FGXR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 07:22 PM   #52
jpd80
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpd80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,325
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Thoughtful contributions to our community 
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6 View Post
Considering the 2.7 V6 EcoBoost is already used in the T6 platform (Bronco), adding it to the range in theory would be simple. Offer it as direct equivalent to the diesel V6 in price and spec. Considering Ford is production limited with the 3.0 V6 diesel, it could be a good move to offer the petrol V6 to lighten the load. Or even the just the 2.3 EcoBoost.
The limit on V6 diesel production was set in the first twelve months,
I think they’ll now make as many as needed for Australia….

the 2.0 diesel is not a big seller these days, Aussie buyers have spoken
jpd80 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 07:35 PM   #53
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,433
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top_Ghia View Post
I’d like to see a road based 3.0 twin turbo petrol Ranger. Not everyone has the need for such extreme off road capabilities.
Imagine a Ranger ST AWD.
Yep, a modern F150 Lightning or C/K 1500 454SS.





They were 'go fast' versions of the F150 and C/K1500 (Silverado), slow by todays standards but the first of their kind

I love that era American ute, they look like they were designed with a 15cm ruler and a crayon on a napkin, big, square and basic, plastic as far as the eye can see and an engine bay you could fit four families of Ethiopians in.

351 Wheezer or 454 depending on your brand of choice.

Povvo pack Ranger, 4x2, tub or tray back, 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder, some bigger wheels with HT tyres or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV as the factory fitment.

Circa 230KW/450NM thing would haul ***.
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 08:22 PM   #54
CyberWasp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
CyberWasp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,651
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Are you guys speaking common sense again.

__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed
2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed
2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto
CyberWasp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 08:41 PM   #55
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,433
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Yep, a modern F150 Lightning or C/K 1500 454SS.

image

image

They were 'go fast' versions of the F150 and C/K1500 (Silverado), slow by todays standards but the first of their kind

I love that era American ute, they look like they were designed with a 15cm ruler and a crayon on a napkin, big, square and basic, plastic as far as the eye can see and an engine bay you could fit four families of Ethiopians in.

351 Wheezer or 454 depending on your brand of choice.

Povvo pack Ranger, 4x2, tub or tray back, 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder, some bigger wheels with HT tyres or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV as the factory fitment.

Circa 230KW/450NM thing would haul ***.
Maybe chuck the high spec interior in it with the good stereo, chuck the 10sp auto behind it with 6sp manual optional, but both with shorter final drive ratios so you can blow the back tyres off it at will, think of a 5.4L 3V BA/BF Falcon with 4.11 ratio in the rear

Single cab, 4x2 and go some nice 17" wheels, 235/65R17 108W Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV as the factory fitment for rubber, lower it a bit and give it some nice street presence.

Can be specced up with tub or tray.

Still keep the leaf springs because parts bin special Franco job, make it out of everything available in the current Ranger from global parts bin. Absolute weapon designed for backwards baseball cap wearing, monobrow sporting degenerates in hi-vis clothing with speed dealer shades, with the matching mullet thats made the comeback from the dead for some reason - the workin' mans supercar.

Of course I'd love to do a 7.3L Godzilla version but you know, all the engineering team at Ford Australia got the *** last year so parts bin sales team job it is

Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 29-01-2024 at 08:51 PM.
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2024, 08:58 PM   #56
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Don't forget the '91 GMC Syclone.
4.3L V6 Turbo AWD.
1/4 mile in 13.4 sec.

__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2024, 09:06 PM   #57
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
The limit on V6 diesel production was set in the first twelve months,
I think they’ll now make as many as needed for Australia….

the 2.0 diesel is not a big seller these days, Aussie buyers have spoken
VW are doing 2L (single) turbo 4wd Amoraks for $55k which isn't bad.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-01-2024, 09:48 AM   #58
Hulsty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 351
Default Re: Raptor R V8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Yep, a modern F150 Lightning or C/K 1500 454SS.

image

image

They were 'go fast' versions of the F150 and C/K1500 (Silverado), slow by todays standards but the first of their kind

I love that era American ute, they look like they were designed with a 15cm ruler and a crayon on a napkin, big, square and basic, plastic as far as the eye can see and an engine bay you could fit four families of Ethiopians in.

351 Wheezer or 454 depending on your brand of choice.

Povvo pack Ranger, 4x2, tub or tray back, 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder, some bigger wheels with HT tyres or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV as the factory fitment.

Circa 230KW/450NM thing would haul ***.
A place I worked at 20 years ago imported a 454 SS, the motor had been worked over and the guys had a good time flogging it around, I pretty much only idled it in and out of the factory. The other one I remember was a square body Silverado that had a wild 283 and 4spd in it, thing hammered.
__________________
The Silver Bullet - BJ74
Where the actions at Ontrack 4wd Club
https://www.facebook.com/ontrack4wdclub
Hulsty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 01:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL