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Old 18-12-2006, 03:42 PM   #31
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Thanks for the sermon mate. If I wanted a fricken lesson on "Morals Befitting The Drought Crisis" then I would have asked. Maybe I missed something, but this is a specialist Ford forum where we talk about, err, Ford vehicles and how to do a whole lot of things with them, including care for them. I wasn't denigrating anyone, or sledging anyone...just asked how to keep my car clean under the new restrictions.

For what its worth, a good portion of my family's background is rural based, and I've seen my old man, and my grandfather, go through drought across the years, and I'm more than aware of the issues at hand thanks.

So, if you have any ideas that may assist in how to keep vehicles clean, then I'd like to hear from you. Alternately, if you want to start a new thread on Victoria's handling of the drought crisis, then fine....everyone can then contribute to that. All I ask is that I don't cop a holier-than-thou backhander for what was in essence, a fairly straightforward & practical question.

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Wow didn't we get out off the wrong side this morning, mate I was not having a go at you, I just believe there are more thing's in life to worry about than keeping a frigging car clean. but your right I won't offer you any advice on how to keep your car clean because water is the only way but then again if we keep going the way we are you won't have any damn water to wash your vehicle atALL, so you won't need to find a way to clean it. we are all in the same boat, jus some are sinking harder than other's.
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Old 18-12-2006, 04:05 PM   #32
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i like living on acreage. lol....its the best....a Dam Full of Crstalish clear water....and 2 25000 litre tanks full of water. lol i wash my car once a week give it a full detail. and no one can do a thing about it........hehehehehehe.....

PS my car is black 2 lol.....

What you should do is get a rain watter tank....fill it up with tap water lol...have a pump on the rainwater tank and a hose......then wash your car....totally legal...unless they catch you filling up your tank....which it would be a good idea to have it out the back.........but yer.....up 2 you....lol.

(guy across the road at gf's house washes the car inside the garage at night lol.........
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Old 18-12-2006, 04:13 PM   #33
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whats the go in qld? Im still washing my cars with a bucket?
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Old 18-12-2006, 04:23 PM   #34
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whats the go in qld? Im still washing my cars with a bucket?
Keep using that bucket...

Big W had a Karcher cleaner for $88 that can run from a bucket. I have 3000lt in rain water tanks and a Karcher to wash the cars and hose the driveway that trick earns me some dirty looks from people going past.

Being storm season I no problems keeping water in the tanks.
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Old 18-12-2006, 04:26 PM   #35
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Here in mildura, we have just entered stage 1 and we get less rain than cites down south. All due to living next to the murry. i think we should realy be at stage 2 though.
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Old 18-12-2006, 05:40 PM   #36
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A pressure washer with the attachment that can suck the water from a bucket is a lot better than using only the bucket to wash the car. Imagine how many buckets you go through rinsing a car off, taking into account those who's aim isnt very good, then imagine how long it takes to fill one bucket with a pressure hose...it takes bloody ages.

If i washed my car more often than I do I'de get a pressure cleaner, you could fill up a bucket with the water from the shower while you are waiting for the hot water to heat up, and that would just about give you a full rinse.
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Old 18-12-2006, 06:55 PM   #37
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you could always move no water resrictions up here i can wash my car and have the sprinklers going if i want
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Old 18-12-2006, 07:02 PM   #38
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we are on stage 4 here in geelong

we have not been allowed to wash the car for months

i just go to a car wash when i really need to

our lawns are all dead and its a bugger to keep water in the pool

we are not even allowed to top it up

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Old 18-12-2006, 08:16 PM   #39
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take a bucket and ur own cleaning cloth to a self carwash place ... fill the bucket for a dollar .. wash it .. rinse it for a dollar.. easy done. do it at night tho.
if you do it during the day .. people get cut coz u take too long lol.
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Old 18-12-2006, 08:17 PM   #40
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Commercial car wash quality varies immensly. I would say that in melbourne there would not be a problem. Your tap water is better than our filtered
The paint on my car felt better with one melbourne wash back in feb than it did from hand washes over here.

I understand about not using brushes and recycled water could harm it but I've used my garage queen AU as a guinea pig since I've really looked after the original factory paint.
Am getting a sensational result considering the age of the paint and what the previous owner did to it.
Cleans really well and a wash and rinse takes five minutes max, not 1 hour or more like it used to.

Of course I don't use the brushes, engine & tyre cleaner or pre soak. I park it in the bay. high pressure warm soap and remove dust and grime (I don't aim it at the paint, but alongside the paint so the grime will slide off and not be pushed into and then grind along the paint. Then high pressure rinse and into undercover vacuum bay for a two towel microfibre dry with quick detail spray to aid the drying.
Paint stays slick and the paint sealant coatings are still there. Water beads like mad and barely nothing sticks to it and any sap just falls off in the wash.

I have not noticed any bad scratches, swirl marks or marring. It's not black but it's dark blue which is close enough

Waterless wash technology is there but I prefer to only use it with mildly dusty cars.
Make sure if your gonna use one of these car wash places that they have warm to hot high pressure soap, you get at least 1 min 45 seconds time per $1 dollar coin and it has an undercover vacuum and drying bays.

Oh and I haven't polished my car for eight months either.

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Old 18-12-2006, 08:44 PM   #41
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you could always move no water resrictions up here i can wash my car and have the sprinklers going if i want
If only we had as much water coming through as the Fitzroy! You guys have only had to pay for water for a year or two as well, lucky buggers!
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Old 18-12-2006, 10:25 PM   #42
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stage 4 water restrictions suck been on em here for ages, been visiting parents quite a lot lately and they are only on stage one so can still wash car there when i visit
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Old 18-12-2006, 10:34 PM   #43
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I would like you all to cast your mind back about 14 years.

My parents built a house out the back of Morayfield. 3/4 acre block.

They wanted to put a rain water tank in.

They submitted it to council and it was declined.

Reason being - there was a readily available supply of treated water and it would not be needed.

They declined us!!! They said we COULD NOT have a rain water tank!!!

But why would they say no? Hmmmm maybe because the council would recieve no revenue?
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Old 18-12-2006, 10:53 PM   #44
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I would like you all to cast your mind back about 14 years.

My parents built a house out the back of Morayfield. 3/4 acre block.

They wanted to put a rain water tank in.

They submitted it to council and it was declined.

Reason being - there was a readily available supply of treated water and it would not be needed.

They declined us!!! They said we COULD NOT have a rain water tank!!!

But why would they say no? Hmmmm maybe because the council would recieve no revenue?
i have 2 BIG tanks at my place , 55,000 ltrs and they are both full to the top, i water the lawns and gardens and wash the cars weekly. i cant use enough water to put a dent in their levels.

we are on town water aswell. and we have to be connected and use it!! some BS law that says "if town water is available it must be connected" we can connect to both using tank water for some things and town for others but the cost of the plumbing mods is far to much.

that reminds me . i better go and turn the sprinklers off.
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Old 18-12-2006, 10:57 PM   #45
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Here in mildura, we have just entered stage 1 and we get less rain than cites down south. All due to living next to the murry. i think we should realy be at stage 2 though.
Yeah I agree, we should probably be on stage 2, but like you say we have this big river running passed the front door so no one really feels its an issue...

But they will if the river dries up, we have jack all as far as storage goes around here so we could be on stage 4 in no time if certain things happened at the wrong time, the Murray also feeds alot of SA, so there would be a hell of a lot of people with no water if the river did dry up...

But then again, the Murray just flows out into the sea, Maybe the governments should be building alot more storage areas off the Murray near the smaller towns? I mean we have lake Victoria, but that don't really help us that water all heads to SA.

I'll add to that and say that the farmers are all fighting over water that they have payed for and are not getting, so when prices of meat and veg go through the roof then maybe people might start to lissen to people in the country.
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Old 18-12-2006, 11:13 PM   #46
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Old 18-12-2006, 11:25 PM   #47
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I have 3000lt in rain water tanks and a Karcher to wash the cars and hose the driveway that trick earns me some dirty looks from people going past.
You need to make yourself a sign stating that tank water is in use, that should take care of all those narks.
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When we had water restrictions a bloke I know had bore water in use signs made, so he could keep a green lawn. All he was missing was the bore.
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Using a karcher i use approx 30L of water to wash a filthy car. I would probably use twice as much throwing buckets of water over the car. It sucks that the new restrictions down south dont even allow you to do this.
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Using a karcher i use approx 30L of water to wash a filthy car. I would probably use twice as much throwing buckets of water over the car. It sucks that the new restrictions down south dont even allow you to do this.
Hey dude, is your karcher one of those ones that have their own tank?? Or does it connect to a tap?? I have been wondering if I should get one.

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Hey dude, is your karcher one of those ones that have their own tank?? Or does it connect to a tap?? I have been wondering if I should get one.

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I have a 30L plastic drum with a 12mm T tap on similar to what you would take camping for drinking water. My Karcher doesn't have its own tank, i hook it up to the drum with a length of garden hose and the karcher i have doesn't need to be gravity fed either. I fill the drum using buckets of water.
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its a bugger to keep water in the pool

we are not even allowed to top it up

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Do those with Pools and restrictions use a pool cover? I used one when I had a pool and it cut down evaporation enormously. Made it too hot to get into in summer sometimes though.
Oh yeah, and the cocker spaniel thought it was solid and would try to walk over it - dazzled look on his face as he sunk.
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We are on Level 4, I go to Car Lovers, do a quick high pressure hose job,use my own car shampoo and sponge,rinse off and chamois, drive home and clean the windows and tyres...result is good,best in early morning with no-one around.
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We are on Level 4, I go to Car Lovers, do a quick high pressure hose job,use my own car shampoo and sponge,rinse off and chamois, drive home and clean the windows and tyres...result is good,best in early morning with no-one around.
This is how ive washed my cars for years, took my own gear there and just used the high pressure gun and spot free rinse when finished then dry it at home. Now the new restrictions are in the new owner now has no bucket washing signs in his car bays and unless your using his soap bush etc he tells you to ****off.
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Yep looks like I'm going to have to go to the carwash. Top idea we had on the another forum I'm apart of was to make it a get together.

On Wednesday going to hog the place up. Shall be fun! :
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"Hand-held hoses fitted with a trigger nozzle can be used to water gardens between 6am - 8am and 8pm - 10pm*. "
Am I the only one that finds the times a little ridiculous there? Surely they could just allow it between 8pm and 8am and put a maximum time limit on it?

Also, not trying to be a smartarse.. Whats the difference between using a pressure washer at home (especially if it's tank), and one at a commercial place if it doesn't use recycled water?

Oh, also.. So does that mean no-one can buy a pool anymore? Or they can, but it'll be empty? lol.
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I reckon they should clamp down on all the water the commercials use... the bastards!
Well they are starting to crack down on them also...... They will soon have to be certified and it means that they will have to apply for the permits to be able to wash cars which will include car yards and panel beaters as well!!!

And as for mobile washers they may be required to carry and use there own water....
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Wow didn't we get out off the wrong side this morning, mate I was not having a go at you, I just believe there are more thing's in life to worry about than keeping a frigging car clean. but your right I won't offer you any advice on how to keep your car clean because water is the only way but then again if we keep going the way we are you won't have any damn water to wash your vehicle atALL, so you won't need to find a way to clean it. we are all in the same boat, jus some are sinking harder than other's.
Galaxy, thanks for your reply, I slept fine thankyou. If you read your original post, it was pretty pointed, critical and dismissive, so I don't think I was wrong having a bite. I can only read and interpret your post as you wrote it, and it was aggressive. That said, if you say your intention was not to have a go, then OK.

For the reasons I mentioned before, I have probably more of an understanding about the effects of drought and the bigger picture we all face than many other 'city people' do. I'm certainly not denying that there are lots of people out there with bigger concerns than keeping their car clean. Then again, we could jump onto any forum thread on this whole site and question why we all like to talk about how many $$$ we've spent on mods, exhausts, chips, tunes & tyres when there are people suffering from bushfires or natural disasters or whatever.....I'm sure those people have bigger issues than what a new Herrod exhaust costs. Shouldn't stop us talking about that though in this forum should it??? Its a car forum ferchristsakes.

At the end of the day it was just a context thing. This is a car site, and we're talking car issues. Mostly.

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"Hand-held hoses fitted with a trigger nozzle can be used to water gardens between 6am - 8am and 8pm - 10pm*. "
Am I the only one that finds the times a little ridiculous there? Surely they could just allow it between 8pm and 8am and put a maximum time limit on it?

Also, not trying to be a smartarse.. Whats the difference between using a pressure washer at home (especially if it's tank), and one at a commercial place if it doesn't use recycled water?

Oh, also.. So does that mean no-one can buy a pool anymore? Or they can, but it'll be empty? lol.
All commercial car washes, ie Carlovers have to recycle their water. If they dont they are not allowed to operate. If its tank or bore water......go for your life. If you have a tank, you can do what you want with it

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