Following too closely ticket

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by MAD

If someone's going faster move left and let them pass. I dont care if I'm doing 15 over I'm in the left right until I need to move to overtake.
I move to the left as often as possible. Hopefully someone will pick up that I am moving left cause it's what I'm supposed to do, and hopefully they will pass it on to someone, and so on.

Great to see someone who uses their common sence,good on you .maybe Adrenaline and charles's wifes XF should use there brains

[Arkturus]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Yeah I know, I'm just doing my bit to keep everyone at the speed limit :P

lol good point, but it's worth remembering that most speedos read a few k's out, so if your sitting on 100, the car behind you trying to pass might read 96...

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

As for tailgating, I hate *****'s that do this and I'd be happy if it was 20 points and 6 months jail time. I had some idiot do it to me the other night for 20 minutes straight, he would have been no more than a metre behind me for most of the way, combined with random high beaming even though I was doing the limit on cruise control.

So, you admitted to blocking the right lane for 20 minutes... At 100kmh you blocked someone for 33kms. Well done for being a passive aggressive.

I don't agree with sitting so close, not in any way. But I do absolutely agree with the use of flashing his lights. In Europe it's a 'move over' to reduce congestion and trucks use it here to help each other out with manoevring. My motorbike has a 'pass button' which is the high beam light. I use it sparingly.

Doing what you did just makes people so inclined to do something rash.

If you think the person is driving dangerously, then the best thing is to let them past and away from you. Self preservation if nothing else. Ten kays down the road if they are pulled over by a copper and you wan't to add your piece, stop and join if you feel the need.

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[phillyc]

Originally Posted by MAD

If someone's going faster move left and let them pass. I dont care if I'm doing 15 over I'm in the left right until I need to move to overtake.
I move to the left as often as possible. Hopefully someone will pick up that I am moving left cause it's what I'm supposed to do, and hopefully they will pass it on to someone, and so on.

This is exactly the attitude that we need. Co-operation. Common sense.

I couldn't care if I have to change lanes 100 times in a 500k/6hr journey. I don't even mind 'aborting' an overtake if i feel a vehicle further behind me has the momentum and for me to complete the overtake without hindering them would result in me travelling faster than I want or deem necessary.

Sometimes I abort because some people just don't want to be overtaken. Just don't get that really. Ie you're doing 110, they're doing 100. You go to overtake and they speed up to 115. So, i pull back in, sit and wait til they drop down again. Then re-attempt.

To the OP, full credit for accepting the ticket on the chin and adding a valuable post / topic.

[TS50]

I got pulled over about 2 years ago and was issued a warning (be a good boy for 12 months and no fine or loss of points, another offense and i would have to wear the old one as well) for following too closely
We were driviing on a dual lane road, I was doing 110km/h, saw the cop about 500m behind me. I was getting close to my exit, so instead of passing the car in the left lane (like I normally would) I pulled in behind it , we were doing 90 km/h
Was happy with this, but within 500m of the exit this goose kept slowing down, to the stage he was doing under 60km/h on the 110 km/h strech of road, before the off ramp
As he was slowing more than I expected, I was closer than I would ever be, then comes the flashing lights, and I get a warning for a fool doing a more dangerous thing than i was

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

i dont' see the point of displaying p plates. i mean what purpose to they serve other than label you a hoon?
i hated them when i was on p's and they constantly blew off the car.

P plates wre mandatory in QLD many years ago, then taken off the "mandatory" list for a long time and are once again required.
When they were first required it was always a good indication to other road users that the p driver was relatively inexperienced, and got some measure of assistance re tolerance,patience etc. I think I recall most p platers appreciated that and turned out to be a little less likely to become enraged on the road when they were caught up in trying situations.Seems nowadays a lot of inexperienced P drivers seem to take pleasure in seeing how many rules they can push whilst not displaying the plate.(how many times has anyone "seen" a p plate displayed behind a unit or pornstar stiker( might all sound a little like generalisation, but I'm sure it's more the norm than not)
I still think it's a privilege to have a licence, p or any other, and despite what the big brother ,conspiratorists will think, a p plate is like a number plate or rego sticker, it identifies you, in this case as a new and inexperienced driver that the rest of the road going public should be aware of. Sorry if this is a little off topic, or a rant!

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by Arkturus

lol good point, but it's worth remembering that most speedos read a few k's out, so if your sitting on 100, the car behind you trying to pass might read 96...

Thats a very good point Arkturus.

All my jokes aside, there is a reason I sit in the right land doing the speed limit or slightly above (the FG speedo is on the money, 100 indicated, actual 99.5km/h as indicated by multiple GPS devices).

Many years ago, I was in the right lane of the freeway and I noticed someone approaching me at a rather rapid pace. Using the "keep left unless overtaking" mantra, I moved into the left lane and the vehicle sped past me, at a speed much higher than 110km/h. At this point, the freeway banked left and after a few minutes, I notice the traffic slowing down to a standstill. As the vehicle buildup slowly inched forward, I saw why it had slowed down. The speeder had plowed into a people mover which had broken down on the right hand shoulder. I pulled over ahead of the crash scene and got out. Thank goodness there was no one in the Tarago. The Commodore driver however, wasn't so lucky. By this stage, I could hear the emergency services coming from the opposite direction. The ambo's came on the scene first, checked the Tarago, then went to the Commodore. They somehow extricated him from the wreckage but weren't able to revive him.

Moral of the story, had I stayed in the right lane, he'd still be alive (despite him being a total tool for inappropriate speeding). And since then, I always sit at the speed limit or a bit above in the right lane.

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Thats a very good point Arkturus.

All my jokes aside, there is a reason I sit in the right land doing the speed limit or slightly above (the FG speedo is on the money, 100 indicated, actual 99.5km/h as indicated by multiple GPS devices).

Many years ago, I was in the right lane of the freeway and I noticed someone approaching me at a rather rapid pace. Using the "keep left unless overtaking" mantra, I moved into the left lane and the vehicle sped past me, at a speed much higher than 110km/h. At this point, the freeway banked left and after a few minutes, I notice the traffic slowing down to a standstill. As the vehicle buildup slowly inched forward, I saw why it had slowed down. The speeder had plowed into a people mover which had broken down on the right hand shoulder. I pulled over ahead of the crash scene and got out. Thank goodness there was no one in the Tarago. The Commodore driver however, wasn't so lucky. By this stage, I could hear the emergency services coming from the opposite direction. The ambo's came on the scene first, checked the Tarago, then went to the Commodore. They somehow extricated him from the wreckage but weren't able to revive him.

Moral of the story, had I stayed in the right lane, he'd still be alive (despite him being a total tool for inappropriate speeding). And since then, I always sit at the speed limit or a bit above in the right lane.

Your intentions are admirable, but I still think your causing more harm than good on your little crusade. Imagine how frustrated that Commodore driver would have been sitting behind you at the speed limit, who knows what he would have done? Might have taken you out with him...

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by tranquilized

Your intentions are admirable, but I still think your causing more harm than good on your little crusade. Imagine how frustrated that Commodore driver would have been sitting behind you at the speed limit, who knows what he would have done? Might have taken you out with him...

Chances are, he'd still be alive.

[StrokedXT]

Good work charles wif xf you intentionally break the law and inconvenience people because of a moral crusade that may save someones life. Wait until someone is in an emergency situation and is rushing a family member to hospital and you blocking the right hand lane forces them to go down the inside and have an accident.

Your moral crusade is stupid, illegal and dangerous. when i see you blocking me ill be sure to kick as many rocks up off the shoulder as possible when i go past

It always amazes me how some people justify their actions, to stop someone breaking the law and speeding you do something just as potentialy dangerous also breaking the law and convince yourself its the right thing to do.

[SB076]

Why do people break one road rule (keep left unless overtaking) to enforce another one ?(speeding)

As others have said, the Commodore driver may have done something even more reckless in an attempt to pass you and killed more people.

[Ego T]

Originally Posted by OLDFORDNUT

Your one of the reasons road rage exists then with that attitude,you fool

Couldn't agree more...

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Chances are, he'd still be alive.

Illogical and myopic.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Moral of the story, had I stayed in the right lane, he'd still be alive (despite him being a total tool for inappropriate speeding). And since then, I always sit at the speed limit or a bit above in the right lane.

Your job isn't to educate other road users by sitting in the right lane. I would guarantee that you're creating more harm by doing so than letting someone by who through their own inability, lost control and crashed.

Instead of having people above the speed limit zooming along in the right lane while you correctly keep left unless overtaking, you'll get impatient drivers undertaking you with much riskier maneuvers.

While your intentions may be admirable, they're potentially making the situation riskier for yourself and others sharing the road with you.

[charles_wif_xf]

‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’

I couldn't give a rats what any of you think, I'll live by this as long as I have a breath in my body. Inappropriate speeding isn't exactly a big evil, but it's a place to start.

And if that means I slow one of you "go getters" down by a few minutes, then so be it. I couldn't care less about your need to get wherever you are going that little bit quicker, I care about the innocent you may plow into. Myopic or not, thats my course of action.

[StrokedXT]

I think we can safely come to the conclusion Charles is an idiot.

[RG]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’

I couldn't give a rats what any of you think, I'll live by this as long as I have a breath in my body. Inappropriate speeding isn't exactly a big evil, but it's a place to start.

And if that means I slow one of you "go getters" down by a few minutes, then so be it. I couldn't care less about your need to get wherever you are going that little bit quicker, I care about the innocent you may plow into. Myopic or not, thats my course of action.

So what if you are slowing someone down who is rushing their passenger to a hospital?

How about you obey the law, you are NOT above it and you are NOT the enforcer of it.

Get a clue.

[Bucknaked]

Edit- already said

[dave289]

Originally Posted by jeep_by_ford

I think we can safely come to the conclusion Charles is an idiot.

could not agree more . some day he'll do this do the wrong person and get what he deserves, probably a good punch to the head or worse. then he might wake up to himself and stop puuting other peoples lives in danger. I have said it before and will say it again, why do I have to share the road with such morons who endanger other peoples lives. sorry to say and I,M WILLING TO COP A BAN ON THIS BUT YOU ARE A DEADSET *********************WIT.

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Moral of the story, had I stayed in the right lane, he'd still be alive (despite him being a total tool for inappropriate speeding). And since then, I always sit at the speed limit or a bit above in the right lane.

Utterly specious reasoning.

I have a rock that repels tigers, for sale; are you interested?

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by dave289

could not agree more . some day he'll do this do the wrong person and get what he deserves, probably a good punch to the head or worse. then he might wake up to himself and stop puuting other peoples lives in danger. I have said it before and will say it again, why do I have to share the road with such morons who endanger other peoples lives. sorry to say and I,M WILLING TO COP A BAN ON THIS BUT YOU ARE A DEADSET *********************WIT.

I'm the one endangering lives by driving at a speed appropriate for the conditons (road quality, traffic flow, weather) whereas you are not by seeing the right hand lane as a licence to nail it. And I'm the f..wit...

And, for your information, "mate", people have tried to "give me what I deserve" (according to you). They haven't succeeded.

This is the last I'll say on the topic.

[StrokedXT]

You keep missing the bit about you breaking the law Charles.

By breaking the law you are no better than the speeder you are trying to stop.

no matter what reasoning you try and give you are being an idiot, Hopefully one day you hold someone up and they smack you in the head at a set of traffic lights to teach you a lesson.

[RG]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

I'm the one endangering lives by driving at a speed appropriate for the conditons (road quality, traffic flow, weather) whereas you are not by seeing the right hand lane as a licence to nail it. And I'm the f..wit...

Geezus, you sound like bloody Ken Lay.

You are not a Police officer. You are breaking the law. You need to get down from your soap box so precariously perched atop your high horse and realize that you are in the wrong.

I sincerely hope that one day you do this to an unmarked Police car and get the fine you so very much deserve.

[BOSHOG]

i would love to see people sitting in the right lane fined heavily for doing so, there is a law against it, and if every other infringement is targeted why not these "do gooders" like charles who make our roads more frustrating to be on.

[Bucknaked]

Hard to make someone see reason when they won't wake up smell what they are shovelling

[BOSHOG]

im pretty sure hes been on this soapbox before on these forums, i recall the same dribble from a fair while ago from this old fart

[FTE72]

Why don't you post up your Rego number charles, you "holier than thou" hero. You are not the police, let them do their work, it is not your job.

[dave289]

just out of curiousity, how old are you charles ?

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

I'm the one endangering lives by driving at a speed appropriate for the conditons (road quality, traffic flow, weather) whereas you are not by seeing the right hand lane as a licence to nail it. And I'm the f..wit...

And, for your information, "mate", people have tried to "give me what I deserve" (according to you). They haven't succeeded.

This is the last I'll say on the topic.

SO, just to clarify;

You seemingly concede to being deliberately antagonistic, admit to committing traffic offences and consider yourself self righteous and above the law, own an XR6T and have never sped, seemingly subscibe to flawed logic to satisfy passive agressive tendancies (as someone else inferred and I agree) because of ONE incident that was beyond your control?

I think they are right, you do sound like a fool.

[dave289]

[QUOTE=charles_wif_xf]I'm the one endangering lives by driving at a speed appropriate for the conditons (road quality, traffic flow, weather) whereas you are not by seeing the right hand lane as a licence to nail it. And I'm the f..wit...

And, for your information, "mate", people have tried to "give me what I deserve" (according to you). They haven't succeeded.

This is the last I'll say on the topic.[/QUOTE

so what your saying is your the type of person who wants to cause trouble and then think your tuff enough to take anyone on who wants to question you. you are a bigger ******wit than I first thought then. :
and I now know the real reason why you hang in the right hand lane.