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27-12-2009, 12:59 PM | #31 | ||
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YEAH YEAH like all the stock VL turbos doing 12's as well !
Turbo's don't really float my boat and the Japs are masters with them. And our version of the "BOSS" never really earned that moniker IMO.
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27-12-2009, 02:01 PM | #32 | ||
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i always thought the other way around Chopped , the boss is 10% smaller than the red team engine and yet still always provided a good challenge to the red team .
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27-12-2009, 02:13 PM | #33 | |||
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The Turbo 6 is the real BOSS. Shame as I like V8's better. This year may finally turn the tide.......
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27-12-2009, 03:47 PM | #34 | |||
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27-12-2009, 04:43 PM | #35 | |||
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27-12-2009, 06:14 PM | #36 | ||
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There's only one thing to do in this situation, HAHAHAHAHA!
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27-12-2009, 07:53 PM | #37 | |||
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27-12-2009, 08:01 PM | #38 | ||||
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Read the topic, and what people are rightly insinuating; The red corner usually fiddle with their press cars. This leaves the impression (with the sheep who believe everything) that they're actually quicker.
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27-12-2009, 08:12 PM | #39 | |||
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"FPV is not a rival for HSV" HSV Managing Director Phil Harding told Wheels. Whoa! Sorry? After two false starts because HSV pulled its car at the 11th hour, we finally managed to drive the E2 Series Senator Signature back-to-back with FPV's F6E. And, as a performance yardstick, we took along Mercedes-Benz's impressive E63 AMG. We'll get to the comparison in a moment. But first, why did HSV decide that another Red v Blue rumble was one too many? To find out, we sat down with Harding in his office at HSV HQ in the industrial suburb of Clayton, outside Melbourne. What we invisaged as a 15 minute discussion lasted an hour, and for almost two thirds of that time Harding requested that the voice recorder be turned off. While it was on, we asked him why he didn't want this comparison to happen." "Holden Special Vehicles will next year market an LPG-based dual fuel option for models in its high-performance range that owners haven’t asked for, and its dealers don’t want. HSV admits that fuel economy does not rate in its customers’ top 10 concerns and managing director Phil Harding says HSV dealers have openly opposed the plan but that he was committed to doing it anyway. “I’ve done a survey with my dealers and they’ve told me they don’t want it and I said ‘I don’t believe you’,” he says." So in summary we have a director of a company that has no competition, doesn't listen or care what dealers or customers want and backs this with attempting to prove the media can’t drive his products. Its nearly like the appearance of the E2 wasn't bad enough. :
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27-12-2009, 08:19 PM | #40 | ||
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WHY HAS THE BOSS 315 in hiding ?? its never been mated against the HSV or F6. I THINK IT WAS IN A MAG ONCE ON A "RAINY DAY STRIP RUN " wtf ???
POST #30 back this up. any owners here have any times dyno printouts etc etc video . there noting anywhere on it STOCK. For a car that outsells the F6 2 to 1 it doesnt show it s head anywhere . it's almost like it is ashamed of it self a worry really cause the 260/290/302 HAVE ALL BEEN SHOWN TO BE COMPETITIVE AGAINST THE LION . |
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27-12-2009, 08:25 PM | #41 | |||
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27-12-2009, 08:54 PM | #42 | |||
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The sound of a wound up BOSS is miles ahead of the HSV product.
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27-12-2009, 08:56 PM | #43 | |||
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27-12-2009, 10:19 PM | #45 | |||
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27-12-2009, 11:13 PM | #46 | ||
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Getting back to the original few quotes, with HSV not happy about figures and techniques that Motor use, I really had to hold back the laughs while I was reading it!!!
Without quoting the exact words, they sent along GT to "properly run some lap times and figures, basically hinting that Luffy was crap and someone decent could get the right times out of the car. Acceleration runs - both guys dead heated. Then the lap times for circulating E.Creek..... GT goes out and does his best. Luffy then jumps in and creams Tander's time.... As Motor says - Point proven. Even HSV's golden child couldn't do what HSV "reckon" the cars can do.... Justice!!!!! : : : : : :
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27-12-2009, 11:35 PM | #47 | |||
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27-12-2009, 11:47 PM | #48 | |||
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27-12-2009, 11:56 PM | #49 | |||
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Sure there are benefits of OHC, but pushrod motors are lighter and more compact. Indeed, it is the Ford engine that is much larger than Holden's. Blame the car, not the LS series. The Yanks have factory 12 and 11 second cars running them...
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28-12-2009, 12:51 AM | #50 | |||
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I wouldn't compare the boss motor to any equivalent LS engine, heavy for the Litres they produce, why do you think Fords bringing in the Coyote?? Coyote will change things |
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28-12-2009, 02:24 AM | #51 | ||||
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28-12-2009, 11:23 AM | #52 | ||
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all the people putting down the boss motor and praising the ls motors - what are you basing your opinion on?
please don't tell me its magazine articles. i've been in both and know many people that have owned both and the BOSS is always the one they prefer. it is FACT that they free up a LOT with some km's on board. from the inside they FEEL very different in how they deliver the power to the road and the ls powered cars can be deceptive in how they feel but generally the stopwatch tells a different story. regardless of who wins there is never more than a couple of tenths in it anyway and the rest of the package on the BOSS powered cars is streets ahead (interior etc) |
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28-12-2009, 11:34 AM | #53 | ||
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The fact the Boss weighs 100kg more than an LSx engines is enough to put me off one
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28-12-2009, 11:40 AM | #54 | |||
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28-12-2009, 11:48 AM | #55 | ||
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the weight of the engine is only a negative if you do serious trackwork, where weight distribution is too forward.
i wonder if car weights were never published whether joe public would even know the difference. |
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28-12-2009, 11:51 AM | #56 | |||
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The best business model is to be modest in your talking up of the product then let the product deliver in spades you will recieve more accolades this way than over promising and under delivering. Ford are always claiming slower times than are achievable and understating the fwkw ratings leaving most buyers and drivers coming away impressed.
Holdens advantage is that most bogans cant read.................
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28-12-2009, 12:01 PM | #57 | |||
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28-12-2009, 12:01 PM | #58 | ||
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Under promise / Over deliver.
Old,tested and a successful sales/service model. Maybe the magazines could hold a "Manufacturer's Proving It" day. Each brand supplies it's own skilled test drivers, the mags supply the vehicles and let the brands prove their own claimed times. (I would buy that issue)
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28-12-2009, 12:04 PM | #59 | |||
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28-12-2009, 01:18 PM | #60 | |||
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