XY but modern? - Page 2

FCleader · 15-11-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

no.. it was a metallic blue with silver trim (?) XY/XW.

I vaguely remember the issue you are talking about, but I though it was black XY/XW with a 5L from an E series with an EF/EL interior.

MAD · 15-11-2011, 11:11 PM

The ultimate retrofitted car amalgamation ever...
http://www.sn65.com/SN65%20story.htm

**El Venom** · 16-11-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by foxtrot3

Hi. Dont know if it ever got finished but an xf from the projects section shows the amount of work to get a late 6 into an early falcon ( http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=103488 ). A standard engine might be a bit easier and the xy engine bay might be higher at the front so the bonnet may not need to be cut. You only need the computer, accelerator pedal and the diagnostic plug and then get the ecu programmed so it has no theft protection and it will run in any car. Cheers MD

That car in the link is running. I read it just had a tune a couple of weeks ago and put out 733rwhp on 29psi

kinksta · 16-11-2011, 08:57 AM

I have seen a hot rod with a twin turbo skyline engine in it. It is something different, actually sounded good with the short exhaust! So if you have the money, turbo 6 it!

davenl5l · 16-11-2011, 10:52 AM

new fg gt engine would be good ,lighter and same capacity as original 302

bigsta · 16-11-2011, 03:39 PM

Alot of peopel will hate me for saying this but have you considered a 3.8 buick motor from a VN-VY commodore.

You can pick them up cheap and the earlier pre ecotec ones dont require alot of computer power, ive seen it done really well in a few old holdens to a great result.

Im guessing you could do the same with a EA falcon 6 or 8.

I would stay away from any ford motor that requires the ICC.

2011G6E · 16-11-2011, 04:03 PM

Just do it.

Too many people stick to stodgy old V8's that need to be worked to buggery and suck fuel like there's a hole in the tank to reach anywhere near the levels of power you get out of a recent six, especially turboed ones, in Falcons.
RRS does nice rack and pinion and strut front ends for the old girls, and someone will surely do kits for the small amount of work needed to fit stuff in.
The computers and wiring is a snap for any competant auto electrician.

If you're going to spend big money on a project, why not make it different to the hundreds of others out there?

Just do it!!!

blackf6 · 16-11-2011, 05:47 PM

Wouldn't it be great if ford re released a new version of an xy. Sort of like how the current mustang looks like the old one.

Xywagon61 · 16-11-2011, 09:20 PM

Hi all it's been ages since I've been on here. I'm building an xy wagon and was thinking of putting a fuel injected 6, about AU ish. Is it a straight up swap engine mount wise or is it a pain in the bum. I've got a clevo block but was aiming at a cruiser. Has anyone bothered with a 6?

pauljh74 · 16-11-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GhiaEB

in the mustangs its mostly inj 302w. One out of a AU XR would be a great ride.

+1. Probably a lot easier to get a more modern Windsor in there if you want to transplant a younger heart in there. Cost and availability should be better too.

66FAIRLANE · 16-11-2011, 11:13 PM

Heres my take. If you have heaps of cash and patience do it. If not build a hydraulic roller, alloy headed, multipoint injected cleveland. Put a modern transmission behind it with a four link 9". Cheaper, yes (depending how much you do yourself), easier, yes, cool as faaark, yes. Stay semi-sensible on the cam and converter and it will still go like hell, get reasonable milage and you won't have to comply with modern emission regs.

Bossxr8 · 17-11-2011, 08:10 PM

Its a lot easier to do with a later 5.8 EFI Windsor out of a truck, its already injected and basically all the 5.0 Mustang gear fits, and it can be stroked to over 400 cubes. It could be fitted up to an Aod or BTR 4 speed too.

2011G6E · 17-11-2011, 08:36 PM

No matter how high-tech, it'd still just be "another XY with a V8"...

Be different and go the turbo six route!!

71XY · 17-11-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

No matter how high-tech, it'd still just be "another XY with a V8"...

Be different and go the turbo six route!!

well that was my other thought turboing the motor thats in it now that would be different maybe lol ive got a little soft spot for the straight six i use to have a HJ ute with a 303 from a VK with over 10k work done to it and use to go nuts might think about that and put it to dad lol

Franco Cozzo · 17-11-2011, 09:01 PM

If you where to do it, and wanted to keep an 8, go a injected 4L 1UZFE V8 with ITBs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5k1...eature=related

naddis01 · 17-11-2011, 09:03 PM

What would the budget need to be on a project like this?

71XY · 19-11-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

What would the budget need to be on a project like this?

not cheap i would be guessing lol

but as a look at it ive got a few years of work to do on it as im only a first year panel beater and $$$ is crap aahah and im sure my mind will change hundred of times on wat running gear im goin to have hmm or ill buy a 351 block and build that up hmmmmm well just something that can pull

easy ahhaha

dave351cid · 20-11-2011, 01:29 AM

just found this f truck with a BA 6 in it with top loader gear box and wolf computer.
i think that theres a typo in the price though..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ford-f100...item2568b05334

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71XY · 20-11-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dave351cid

just found this f truck with a BA 6 in it with top loader gear box and wolf computer.
i think that theres a typo in the price though..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ford-f100...item2568b05334

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I would be hoping so 180k that wow one expensive conversion lol also wat do you guys think injected or carby ?? Which one is better and would give more HP ?? Kinda a wide question lol

2011G6E · 20-11-2011, 10:16 AM

When people first started doing this sort of conversion it was very expensive...very...now there's all sorts of after market computers available from all sorts of sources, complete wiring looms to suit, and plenty of experience around the place and much better knowledge of what has to be done to make it all work.

I remember when those "alloy hemis", the Jap V8s, first started to be imported, and there was very little knowledge and even less experience about what could be done with them. The first I saw was a fully polished one fitted with a carb manifold and four barrel in an EK Holden panel van. You couldn't get near the thing at shows for the people crowding around it. Nowadays it probably wouldn't draw much of a crowd like that, but people would still be attracted to something different.
Staying Ford and putting in a twin can six and turbos, show detailed, would similarly draw people to it, and give you a damn good drive in something that would weigh a lot less than the what, 1800kg that a new falcon weighs? Even with no mods it would go like the clappers.

GT302 · 20-11-2011, 10:25 AM

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11291199

AU Mont · 20-11-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 71XY

im only a first year panel beater and $$$ is crap aahah

so how are you going to fund this super-xcellent-wicked car project?

2011G6E · 20-11-2011, 02:16 PM

There's plenty worse ways to spend a personal loan...

If you've already got the car that's the biggest cost right there, being an XY. Must be plenty of late model Falcons by now in the wreckers yards to pick and choose from...

klawsterfobik · 20-11-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

It has been done.. and there was a feature car on street fords (I think) about 6 or 7 yrs ago which had the dash from the doner car (honestly cant remember which model) and a late model injected V8 and shaker fitted.

EL XR8... I had it on my school diary in 2001/2.

71XY · 20-11-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

There's plenty worse ways to spend a personal loan...

If you've already got the car that's the biggest cost right there, being an XY. Must be plenty of late model Falcons by now in the wreckers yards to pick and choose from...

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Originally Posted by AU Mont

so how are you going to fund this super-xcellent-wicked car project?

ive already got the car and ill be doing all thepanel work myself and i also might be getting in contact with someone that makes rust repair panels and be getting them at cost so fingers crossed lol and the motor work a guy at work might know someone that can help out also if i go old skool with a 351 dad has a contact that has a few that wont mind getting rid of. As they say its not wat you know its who

imafreedomfighter · 20-08-2020, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 71XY

ive already got the car and ill be doing all thepanel work myself and i also might be getting in contact with someone that makes rust repair panels and be getting them at cost so fingers crossed lol and the motor work a guy at work might know someone that can help out also if i go old skool with a 351 dad has a contact that has a few that wont mind getting rid of. As they say its not wat you know its who

did you do this ?

**GasoLane** · 21-08-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by imafreedomfighter

did you do this ?

Don't expect a quick reply. The thread is 9 years old and 71XY hasn't been on since 2014

happy1 · 21-08-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by imafreedomfighter

did you do this ?

As GasoLane said, this thread was peacefully sleeping for 9 years, (And XY71 have NOT been active on here since 2012), then a new-starter (or maybe a banned troll?) woke up this dinosaur thread again.

I wasted a couple of minutes reading the two pages in this thread to the bottom before I saw that the year was 2011..

Anyway, about a week ago I saw a gumtree listing for a rusted out wagon, almost naked body shell. I was looking through some of the project builds on the forum to see what XY projects (modern drivetrain) has been done. The Gumtree shell was way beyond economical repair, but I was sitting looking at if it would it be possible to splice in a complete floor pan, suspension and drivetrain from an AU, BF, FG, or even SY / SZ into that shell.

- Physically everything is possible, but another thing would be the licensing rules; There is probably a maximum percentage of a body shell and other parts allowed to be substituted / replaced before it is considered no longer the old / original vehicle.

Jay Leno garage did a floor-pan swap in one of the TV episodes on an ugly brown sedan.

West-Coast Customs (USA) did a floor-pan swap of what looked like a VZ Monaro (Australian GM) into a 70s small GM in one of their TV episodes.

And I know of a guy in Eastern states here in Australia that have done a E90 M3 floor-pan and engine swap into an early BMW 3.0 coupe

Ford have done the same when they built the Escort Cosworth vehicles in the 90s, slotting in Sierra 4x4 floor pans in the Escort shells, but that was a factory job, so didn't have the identity problem to deal with.

I haven't done anything this big yet, but in principle it only takes more time to do a big job than a small job

Sprintey · 21-08-2020, 09:23 PM

Would love to do an XW with 3.6 221ci and turbo using period tech (if it existed) and make it look like a factory GT effort with 'F6' and'Typhoon' in the lettering on the blackout on the boot...

wodahs · 21-08-2020, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Would love to do an XW with 3.6 221ci and turbo using period tech (if it existed) and make it look like a factory GT effort with 'F6' and'Typhoon' in the lettering on the blackout on the boot...

wonder how that would go with a 2v head with a multi point injection set up