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02-02-2006, 11:28 AM | #31 | ||
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don't forget, transfering weight from the front to the rear has twice the effect of just removing (or adding) the weight at either end...
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02-02-2006, 11:31 AM | #32 | ||
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I don't believe it. How could you forget, something like a battery. If it was to be moved, it would be for a reason.
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02-02-2006, 12:55 PM | #33 | ||
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alfa spider has boot battery aswell, and its a pian in the ... trying to boost it, especially when you could earth it out on the body which is less than 10mm above the terminal...
yeah i cantimagine voltage drop being friendly trying to crank a 6l v8... |
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02-02-2006, 01:07 PM | #34 | |||
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02-02-2006, 01:09 PM | #35 | ||
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with all of the cad cam design these days, and supplier interaction - there is no way that it could be a design fault. If the battery is too big then the blow torche would be applied on the manufacturer of the battery to fix it.
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02-02-2006, 03:07 PM | #36 | |||
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02-02-2006, 04:26 PM | #37 | |||
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02-02-2006, 04:30 PM | #38 | ||
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My gf's mini has its battery in the boot!
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02-02-2006, 04:35 PM | #39 | ||
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R33/R34 GTR/GTST had them in the boot I think.
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02-02-2006, 04:41 PM | #40 | |||
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02-02-2006, 04:44 PM | #41 | ||
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Is it a small battery?
I'm just going off picks I googled, it looks to me like there's a cover for terminals, but hardly enough room for a battery. |
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02-02-2006, 05:35 PM | #42 | |||
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my mates R31 battery is under the bonnet also |
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02-02-2006, 05:43 PM | #43 | |||
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02-02-2006, 05:47 PM | #44 | ||
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Makes it so much easier to get it out and to jump start cars! pft.
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02-02-2006, 05:49 PM | #45 | ||
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Must just be GT-Rs.
Doesn't look like too much room in there. |
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02-02-2006, 05:55 PM | #46 | ||
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Dose it really matter where the dam thing is. I have spoken to two of the design group and one of the engineers and none of them now anything about?? So who gave you this so called inside info??
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02-02-2006, 06:52 PM | #47 | ||
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if the battery is in the boot, IF, it will be because holden want it there. If u are nieve enough to believe that they would forget it, you will believe anything. (V10 GTHO)
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02-02-2006, 07:39 PM | #48 | ||
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V10 GTHO i must get one of those's.
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02-02-2006, 08:11 PM | #49 | |||
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Do you know what kind of materials Holden has got a hold of for the new VE? I heard a while ago that there mabey a new type of steel/alloy employed for the safety cage in the new Commodore. Sorry guy's for getting off-track over the headline-grabbing news story about the battery location in the VE. Damn I keep running out of salt when I view these types of threads. |
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02-02-2006, 08:27 PM | #50 | ||
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Meh if its in the boot its much better for puting in subs and amps and stuff :
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02-02-2006, 09:08 PM | #51 | |||
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1) Jaguar XJ12 from 1994 till the end (about 1998) had the battery in the ИИИИ end. These cars had a comparible electrical load to a more modern commo. 2) True, the XJ12 had a high compression 6 litre V12! Actually come to think of it there may be some validity in point 2, since a V12 has a far superior balance characteristic than a V8 added to the greater number of bangs per rev, theoretically should mean much less effort in firing them up thus less is required of the starting equipment. |
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02-02-2006, 09:14 PM | #52 | |||
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Love the blue oval but we did have the Taurus, shudder shudder retch retch. only redeemable feature was you could opt not to buy it......
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02-02-2006, 09:22 PM | #53 | |||
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02-02-2006, 09:52 PM | #54 | |||
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Went to an automotive battery seminar a few years back and these guys prefer the battery in the boot, away from heat sources.
They reckon heat shortens a batterys life dramatically, and under bonnet temperatures keep getting higher. Vehicle manufacturers have tried to over come the heat by enclosing the battery & directing air onto it, but this is only a bandaid fix. High temperature cause an unwanted chemical reaction inside the battery and in extreme cases the electrolyte will boil, the gases emitted are highly corrosive & explosive. Quote:
EDIT: http://www.batteryworld.com.au/v1/Ba...0Batterie2.htm
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02-02-2006, 10:28 PM | #56 | ||
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Next they will put the engine in the boot and be calling it a bettle _
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02-02-2006, 11:08 PM | #57 | |||
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Boron - not sure that they've used it for the entire cage though, i highly doubt that. Plastics have been used a lot more in VE also. Haven't seen many new designs of yours lately - how about some Orion interpretations?? Give you a head start, think orion xr's even more agressive than current FPV's.. :evilking: |
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03-02-2006, 10:42 AM | #58 | |||
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I was thinking along the lines of Boron being used, I know the euro Vectra uses it in the B-pillar and the Volvo XC90 has it in the roof supports - quite strong stuff. I've seen a few rollovers involving the XC90 and there is hardly any roof-crush as a result. I think more manufactures should be using it in there vehicles. As for the sketches - I must admit I've been a bit slack over the past few months. However I have been doing a few, including my take on a new AM DBS. I'm a bit ИИИИed-off though because since I completed that particular illustration, AM has come out with a sketch for the DBS that looks quite similar to mine in its proportions and greenhouse. As for the Orion, well I haven't really considered doing a interpretation of that yet - not sure where to start. |
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03-02-2006, 12:47 PM | #59 | |||
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03-02-2006, 01:02 PM | #60 | |||
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On the falcon front - don't be surprised to learn that there will be safety innovations that stem from the volvo brand. |
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