$683,650 GTHO Phase 3 - Page 2

zx10 · 26-03-2007, 10:27 PM

The Bill Bourke factory order XW was for sale in Unique cars approx 10 years ago. From memory I think it was for sale somewhere around the $40,000 mark (I could be wrong it was a long time ago) and had factory sunroof, power windows and a 428 cobra jet motor. I will try and find the mag, as I tend to hoard things like that.

Cheers
Matt

**Falcon Coupe** · 26-03-2007, 10:35 PM

Cheap...$2.2 million for the only Green Phase 4 ?

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...7&page=1&pp=25

Deviateboy · 26-03-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zx10

The Bill Bourke factory order XW was for sale in Unique cars approx 10 years ago. From memory I think it was for sale somewhere around the $40,000 mark (I could be wrong it was a long time ago) and had factory sunroof, power windows and a 428 cobra jet motor. I will try and find the mag, as I tend to hoard things like that.

Cheers
Matt

As i recall this was a seperate one to the Bourke Special, just 351 etc, but built so as not to arouse the supsicion of the ever faithful members of the doctor's community, that he was actually a foaming at the mouth petrol head.

Auslandau · 26-03-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JACK250

Hmmm, top of the line Ferrari or a Falcon... Sure I respect these are awesome cars, but in the end it really is a Falcon..

$500,000 Ferrari in 2 years time
$500,000 XY PH 111 in 2 years time

Pick the investment?

Sure the Ferrari would be more fun to drive (for the first 15 minutes) but in the end you need a hell of a lot more money to own one.

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Noddy · 26-03-2007, 10:46 PM

Anyone know if Bowdens has a ph3 in his collection?

GXL078 · 26-03-2007, 10:48 PM

That Bill Bourke car has the best of everything. For starters its an XW (the best loooking GT IMO) and it has a SHAKER as well on the big block, sunroof, air, steer, Mustang seats. I would rather that car than a manual GTHO with no creature comforts, actually I would prefer to drive my GXL. I like the story about how the previous owner traded it in at a Mercedes dealership and no one was too sure what it was.

Ps: Yeah, Bowden has a couple of Phase 3 race cars, Red one and a Wild violet one, at least that I know of.

**Falcon Coupe** · 26-03-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

$500,000 Ferrari in 2 years time
$500,000 XY PH 111 in 2 years time

Pick the investment?

Sure the Ferrari would be more fun to drive (for the first 15 minutes) but in the end you need a hell of a lot more money to own one.

The type of person who buys a $500,000 PH 111 most likely has a couple of Ferrari's in the garage anyway.

Noddy · 26-03-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xcgxl

Ps: Yeah, Bowden has a couple of Phase 3 race cars, Red one and a Wild violet one, at least that I know of.

I'd say ph3 road car isn't worth the dollars in his mind. btw nice gxl.

normxb · 26-03-2007, 11:46 PM

I've just spent a half hour searching and can't find it , can anyone remember listing the Ex -John French Bathurst car (Purple , possibly Wild Violet) being sold abut 6 months ago for $750,000 ? .

Norm

[Tonko] · 27-03-2007, 12:54 AM

Dammit danny, what have i been telling you? stop reading the paper and go pull those pinstripes off the XE! :p
i had an argument with a mate about this today, he didnt believe me, and said torries are going for $80,000+ and that they are the greatest aussie muscle car... i wanted to slap him,

I guess a P3 will always be out of my league, :(

Steffo · 27-03-2007, 01:12 AM

Hmm... XY GTHO PhaseIII or a brand new Lamborghini Murcielago E-Gear with change left over for an FPV F6 Typhoon auto to daily drive? I'll take the Lambo/FPV combo. At least you can use the damn things, all the time, instead of worrying about your 30-year old ultra-price-inflated muscle car having a fly land on it....

normxb · 27-03-2007, 01:51 AM

Yeah ,Steffo
I "sort of agree" but if the last few genuine examples aren't kept , in ,let's say 40-50 years the only place you will see these kind of things will be in books .
This probably isn't a good example , but Tasmanian tigers were everywhere once , where are they now ? (no offence meant)

I know the XW/XY's are "dinosaurs" compared to cars these days , but the guy's (French , Moffat , Gibson , McPhee & Co ) had real gut's to push these car's around the mountain . If the few "Low Mileage" ones aren't kept , they'll just be a memory . Some guy had the $$$$+ and I don't think you'll see it around the streets , so it's going to be a "low mileage car" for a very long time . ALL the other ones will be High mileage / rebuilds or non-original motors .

I only hope it will be shown to the public on special occasions . Just my opinion

Norm

xbcool · 27-03-2007, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

The type of person who buys a $500,000 PH 111 most likely has a couple of Ferrari's in the garage anyway.

yep everyone needs a work hack

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Gunns · 27-03-2007, 08:34 AM

A guy up the road from me got offered $500,000 for his at the 2006 AFD, number plates NOFAKE.

TZENU · 27-03-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

The type of person who buys a $500,000 PH 111 most likely has a couple of Ferrari's in the garage anyway.

exactly... unfortunately your average person cannot spend 500,000 on a car... however someone who has a collection, well thats a different story!

Bucknaked · 27-03-2007, 11:15 AM

The guy who bought this car is the guy who bought the last monaro

atec77 · 27-03-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I don't see the value. But each to their own. Obviously someone wants to pay that sort of cash for a car that you would be too scared to drive incase the crooks come looking for it. I wonder what the premiums are worth on a car like that.

I agree , it's silly , I remember the first GT I bought was 4500$ (xy)) makes me wonder what my collection woul dbe worth tidied up ( when I retire maybe) at this rate I would be wealthy , of course it has to top out when the blokes investing cant get the returns .

Spotty · 27-03-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel351

The GTHO are making the cover of the Herald Sun!

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/

More about it,
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...17-661,00.html

For years I have been thinking about building up a replica XW GT. When I look at the pricesmint replica shelby AC cobras are going for (i think $50k +)
then top prices cant be to far away for a quality XW XY GT replica. The thing is if you really do love the GT do dont build a replica up for the sake of a restore and sell investment nor do you put them in cotton wool. You drive them regularly....work on them your self.....they become part of you. Its a all bit sad when collectors start paying big bucks for classic cars putting them totaly out of the price range for most people.

Rev28K · 27-03-2007, 01:21 PM

In 92 I was looking at buying a rough Torana XU1’s for around $30k. Loved the shape, heritage, etc. Figured that I could sprint it, have it as a daily driver and keep it in the driveway (no garage at the time). Almost bought a GTR based 308 XU2 replica but didn’t like it because it had a sunroof. Instead I bought a little Honda to daily drive/weekend sprints, it’d be worth about $8k now.

It pains me now to see good XU1’s topping $100k these days. An XU1 used to be affordable with a Hemi Cuda as a “one of these days” car, now even the XU1’s are getting in to dream car territory.
Limited numbers remaining and baby boomers with plenty of disposable income to splash on the hero cars of their youth are always going to drive up prices.

Even though D. Bowden has cautioned that it is a bit of a bubble market at the moment which may need a readjustment, I still think that in 20-30 years time we will look back at today’s prices and say “back in the noughties you could still pick up a P3 Ho for only $300-400k”.

Don’t you reckon that the South Africans will take off now in the wake of $40-50k replicas?

XWGT · 27-03-2007, 01:46 PM

Hmmm

Porsche 993 Twin Turbo
and a Porsche GT3
and and BF GT

Or a Phase III.

No contest. Sorry have owned an XW and XY GT, and couldnt see that value at 20% of that price.

Each to their own

Bud Bud · 27-03-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I don't see the value. But each to their own.

I don't know why some people think this is a waste of money. Some people will pay 5 plus Million for a harbour view while others will pay 4 or 5 times the face value for grand final or concert tickets. Some people still see this as a waste of money as well. It's all relative.

I say if you can afford it why not. Good luck to him! It is not like you can go down to the dealership and order one new.

Off topic, I know people that thought 40-50k was too expensive for a house back in the early to mid 80's. Some of these people are still renting after all these years @ $250-$300 a week today.

I wonder how much a genuine GTHO was valued back then?

Psycho Chicken · 27-03-2007, 05:56 PM

I guess owning a rental property is a waste of money, after all you never live in it do you?

GXL078 · 27-03-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Bud

I wonder how much a genuine GTHO was valued back then?

about $12K according to the literature of the day

red_hotxr6 · 27-03-2007, 06:38 PM

At least its a FORD...

**Charliewool** · 27-03-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xcgxl

about $12K according to the literature of the day

Try around $5300!...
Sorry mate... just read again.. You meant in the 80's?... I was talking NEW

gthofan · 27-03-2007, 07:56 PM

imagine the transfer fees if it were registered.....

flappist · 27-03-2007, 08:11 PM

Don't stress guys, these silly prices will soon be history. 1986, GTHOs were $60k, 1988, $15-20k.
November may start the beginning of a repeat performance.

**Falcon Coupe** · 27-03-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Don't stress guys, these silly prices will soon be history. 1986, GTHOs were $60k, 1988, $15-20k.
November may start the beginning of a repeat performance.

Must dissagree, won't happen IMO.

Gammaboy · 27-03-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

Loungeroom OH MY GOD. His Mrs should be sleeping there and that car should be next to him in the bedroom. For that actual car i have Prefix # Serial # SIDO # MODEL # Engine code, Transmission code, Paint code, Trim code, Build Options and Dealer Code. Am i obsessed with this car ? No, what makes you think that. !!! The 428 Cobra Jet Ram Air option was given a 'R' code on vin plates. but as this was a one-off, off the line unique special order, its Aussie compliance plates didnt get any stamps while in Dearborn, however its Ford Australia factory codes show it was ordered with a specific purpose in mind. Need i say anymore !!!!!!!

Actually, the story I heard was they pretty much built the lower story of the house *around* the car. And yes, I've got a pretty good idea of where its living...

I could kill my old man for buying a Bleddy 2nd hand XF in the eighties instead of a XY GTHO, i can remember seeing them in unique cars at the time....

Interceptor · 27-03-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

The guy who bought this car is the guy who bought the last monaro

i have little problem believing that........ all i gotta do is remember to ask him if i can have a peek next time i see him lol

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I guess owning a rental property is a waste of money, after all you never live in it do you?

if its true about who bought it....... i dont think the income from $685k of rental properties is going to be of much interest to him.....