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Old 28-12-2008, 10:02 PM   #31
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are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......
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are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......
yes all 5.6 T3 strokers are 342 c.i. not 347.
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It's really strange, because mine has all the indictations of a 220 (incl. build date), bar the different engine cover.
my dad took delivery of his au2 xr8 in july 01, it was the first 220kw version delivered to Kloster ford in newcastle. it didnt have any 220kw badges on it when he took delivery but when it went back for its first service they put the badge on the boot but not the sticker on the engine cover!
it also had the alloy ford racing heads like the t series had not the iron gt40p heads. id say it was a left over t-series engine!
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Old 31-12-2008, 12:42 PM   #35
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are the runours true about the 250's not actually being 347 but really 342......
Correct not actually a rumour but fact
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Old 31-12-2008, 07:39 PM   #36
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So did all XR's have GT40P heads? Was there a difference between the heads from Series 1 -3? Bigger valves etc?
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Yes they all had GT40P heads, however, the 220kw Windsors got some massaging from Yella Terra.
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Yes they all had GT40P heads, however, the 220kw Windsors got some massaging from Yella Terra.
Bigger valves and a little massage.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:47 PM   #39
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All AU V8s had the GT40P heads, Faimonts etc also.
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My oil filters have alway been Motorcraft AFL 1 MC? And it's a 200kw... and thats as big or bigger than Ryco Z89 ;)
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thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,
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My oil filters have alway been Motorcraft AFL 1 MC? And it's a 200kw... and thats as big or bigger than Ryco Z89 ;)
Just noticed this post, what's that got to do with anything? The AFL1 is a Z9. The Z89A is a half length Z9 and is needed to clear the oil cooler.
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thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,
Not this again lol. NO AU Utes had the 220kw engine. This has been well looked into, just ask b2tf.
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thought id just add.. x2500 AUIII XR8 utes where sold with 220kw engines as stock,
What are you basing this misinformation on? The hand built plates stuck to the rocker covers perhaps? All 200kw engines have that from AU2 onwards, and the utes only ever got the 185 up to AU2 then 200kw. The sedans are the only true XRs which is why they got the 220 jobbie in AU3.

Still, I (and a lot of others) would be interested to see what you base your statement on.
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im basing this missinformation on my mates AUIII xr8 ute, it identified as a 220kw motor and is one of 2500 220kw engines and those who were lucky got one and those who wernt got the 200kw engine.
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im basing this missinformation on my mates AUIII xr8 ute, it identified as a 220kw motor and is one of 2500 220kw engines and those who were lucky got one and those who wernt got the 200kw engine.
How was it identified as a 220?
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my dad took delivery of his au2 xr8 in july 01, it was the first 220kw version delivered to Kloster ford in newcastle. it didnt have any 220kw badges on it when he took delivery but when it went back for its first service they put the badge on the boot but not the sticker on the engine cover!
it also had the alloy ford racing heads like the t series had not the iron gt40p heads. id say it was a left over t-series engine!
Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

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Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

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Daniel there have been a few reports of alloy headed XR8's by a few people. Too many to dismiss and too few to say it was the norm.

Left over heads, warranty left overs and the like sounds the most plausible.
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Daniel there have been a few reports of alloy headed XR8's by a few people. Too many to dismiss and too few to say it was the norm.

Left over heads, warranty left overs and the like sounds the most plausible.
Fair enough, and i suppose this adds weight to what I was saying with respect to the same engine calibration being spread out across the whole 220kw engine run, and how in turn, some cast iron headed 220's have issues with pinging.

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Fair enough, and i suppose this adds weight to what I was saying with respect to the same engine calibration being spread out across the whole 220kw engine run, and how in turn, some cast iron headed 220's have issues with pinging.

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True, adding to that is the fact that in order for the cast heads to match the alloy's 220 they had to up the comp on the cast headed engines a fair whack too
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Not saying it is impossible, but what you have reported is very very unlikely, because the alloy headed 220 production stopped in early March 2001 (halfway through the T2 run), and the cast iron 220's in XR8's did not kick off until the second half of the year.

How an alloy headed 220 motor sat around for over three months and then finally found its way into an XR8 is beyond me, especially since the T2's had been getting cast iron headed engines for that whole time.

Possibly a T1 TS50 warranty engine that had been misplaced in the production line?

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While the heads may have been the "feature" difference, wouldn't tune, MAF callibration, TB etc all be different too (maybe not TB)?
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While the heads may have been the "feature" difference, wouldn't tune, MAF callibration, TB etc all be different too (maybe not TB)?
That is sort of where I am going with this, I just cannot understand how Ford/Tickford would let it slip through the net. The MAF-Injector calibration (MAF Transfer) would be the same as would the TB, but the tune may or may not be.

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Sorry can someone please tell me the size of the intake tube on my AUII XR8 ute (200kw) Is it 3 inch or 3.5 inch? (the tubing after the airbox)

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Sorry can someone please tell me the size of the intake tube on my AUII XR8 ute (200kw) Is it 3 inch or 3.5 inch? (the tubing after the airbox)

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i ahve a V8 AUII fairmont ghia, now what would its specs be because i beleive that you can option them to be tickford, it has pacemakers and a twin system the whole way through
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It would have the 185kw engine.
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I have the exact same system and I use Magnaflow steel cats. They sound good.
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i thought all fairmonts got the 175kw engine??
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Yep, I think you are right Mont
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Ghia got the 175kw.
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