Major Ford announcement....

[flappist]

Of course there is a reason why spies are usually shot.......

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by flappist

My spies tell me that the turbo I6 is now going to replace the V8 completely and be FPV only with stocks for 5 years whereas the new V6 will be fitted to all falcons with no turbo option.

2011 GT will be an I6.

double barrel shotgun!!!

[King Nothing]

Originally Posted by flappist

Of course there is a reason why spies are usually shot.......

lol don't even joke about stuff like that...

[Road_Warrior]

From Drivel:

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=64516&vf=2

Ford will abandon plans to build a new small car in Australia and instead produce four-cylinder versions of its locally made Falcon and Territory models, according to sources at the company.

The local car maker will reveal its plans later today, but a source confirmed the announcement would centre on the introduction of new environmentally friendly engine technology for the Falcon and its soft-roader spin-off, the Territory.

Ford had planned to build the Focus small car in Australia from 2011, but is believed to have canned the project in favour of building a new turbocharged four-cylinder engine claimed to deliver six-cylinder performance with the fuel consumption and emissions of a small car.

The ‘Ecoboost’ engine has been developed by its US parent company, and Ford global product boss Derek Kuzak recently told media the company planned to have a four-cylinder engine in every car in its range.

Ford planned to build 40,000 Focus models a year, with 15,000 earmarked for export. Senator Kim Carr, Federal Minister for Innovation, Industry Science and Research, will attend the announcement at Ford’s Broadmeadows headquarters.

The new engine program is likely to receive funding under the Government’s Green Car Innovation Fund, which has already spawned similar programs from Holden and Toyota.

Holden has received $149 million in funding to develop a new small car, the Cruze, at its Elizabeth Plant in South Australia from 2010, while early next year Toyota will begin selling a hybrid version of its locally-built Camry sedan with $30 million funding.

The Ford source said the new engine program would not affect the company’s existing six-cylinder engine operations in Geelong.

Ford had planned to close the Geelong engine plant in 2010 and import a V6 engine from the United States, but reversed the decision after receiving assistance from the Government late last year.

All three local manufacturers are reshaping their operations in an attempt to come to terms with the shift away from locally produced large family cars to soft-roaders and small, fuel efficient vehicles.

[MR_SIDO]

Just had the announcement from Ford. Media release should be out soon.

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by flappist

My spies tell me that the turbo I6 is now going to replace the V8 completely and be FPV only with stocks for 5 years whereas the new V6 will be fitted to all falcons with no turbo option.

2011 GT will be an I6.

There is only one person on this forum that can get away with this.

[4Vman]

XR4T Falcon...

[King Nothing]

Diesel falcon???

http://www.theage.com.au/national/fo...0724-dvhc.html

Ford will abandon plans to build the small car Focus in Australia and instead produce a four-cylinder version of its existing Falcon and Territory range.

An announcement from the company is expected later this morning.

But a source confirmed the announcement would centre on the introduction of new environmentally friendly engine technology for the Falcon and its locally built offroader, the Territory.

It is believed today's announcement will include a $230 million investment in new petrol, LPG and diesel engines for the Falcon and Territory - and that no jobs will be lost at the Geelong and Broadmeadows plants.

The move away from a locally produced Focus - previously promoted as part of a global shift towards smaller, more fuel-efficient cars - is expected to come as a surprise across the industry.

It is understood that the high cost of producing the Focus in Australia, compared with lower-cost economies overseas, was a major barrier.

By 2011, the Ford and Territory range is expected to include:

* A four-cylinder, two-litre petrol ``eco-boost'' engine with greater fuel efficiency and lower CO2 emissions.

* A two-litre liquid-injection LPG engine that will be promoted as the most advanced LPG engine in the country.

* A 2.7 litre V6 diesel engine - again with lower emissions and higher fuel efficiency.

Ford had planned to build the Focus small car in Australia from 2011, but is believed to have canned the project in favour of building a new turbo-charged four-cylinder engine claimed to deliver six-cylinder performance with the fuel consumption and emissions of a small car.

The Eco-boost engine has been developed by its US parent and Ford global product boss Derek Kuzak recently told the media the company planned to have a four-cylinder engine in every car in its range.

Ford planned to build 40,000 Focuses a year, with 15,000 earmarked for export.

Senator Kim Carr, Federal Minister for Innovation, Industry Science and Research, will attend the announcement at Ford's Broadmeadows headquarters.

The new engine program is likely to receive funding under the Government's Green Car Innovation Fund, which has already spawned similar programs from Holden and Toyota.

Holden has received $149 million in funding to develop a new small car, the Cruze, at its Elizabeth Plant in South Australia from 2010, while early next year Toyota will begin selling a hybrid version of its locally built Camry sedan with $30 million funding.

The Ford source said the new engine program would not affect the company's existing six-cylinder engine operations in Geelong.

Ford had planned to close the Geelong engine plant in 2010 and import a V6 engine from the United States, but reversed the decision after receiving assistance from the Government late last year.

All three local manufacturers are reshaping their operations in an attempt to come to terms with the shift away from locally-produced large family cars to offroaders and small, fuel efficient vehicles.

According to industry sources, Ford is expected to announce that the production of the three new engines will mean that no jobs will be lost.

It is understood that Ford will continue to source the Focus from overseas locations.

An announcement from the company is expected in the next few hours.

[MAD]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

XR4T Falcon...

XR4TDCi

[Luke Plaizier]

Right, so by "Ford is expected to announce that the production of the three new engines will mean that no jobs will be lost" I take it that the 4-Cyl Petrol, LPI and V6 Diesel engines will be made in Oz?


Luke

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by Luke Plaizier

Right, so by "Ford is expected to announce that the production of the three new engines will mean that no jobs will be lost" I take it that the 4-Cyl Petrol, LPI and V6 Diesel engines will be made in Oz?


Luke

Diesel is Welsh, but the I4 rumour seems to have traction.

[ieatsports_cars]

i think this is all bad a 4 cyl falcon phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht !

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by ieatsports_cars

i think this is all bad a 4 cyl falcon phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht !

I4T.

I think it will be interesting, but I've had since November last year to contemplate this.

[King Nothing]

An official announcement is expected at 1pm.

Argh! After lunch then.

[mik]

well have to wait and see what they do to falcon (hoping Flappist is WRONG) by the looks, the one thing thats probably been holding the terri back is fuel consumption this should be a plus for many potential customers.

[Road_Warrior]

I smell a rat.

[HSE2]

It is understood that the high cost of producing the Focus in Australia, compared with lower-cost economies overseas, was a major barrier.


If this is true of one

[WOTDAH]

Originally Posted by Paxton

I4T.

I think it will be interesting, but I've had since November last year to contemplate this.

I'm with you Paxton took me a while to accept it but now I think it's going to be a winner.

[Luke Plaizier]

Will the I4 Falcon get a new name and compete in a different market category?

I'm not sure how the industry can support having the 'Camry' and the 'Aurion' in different market segments when they are dimensionally equivalent, but if Ford don't do the same they'd be crazy.

But even more importantly, what does this mean for the 4Cyl Mondeo? Will Ford Oz stop the imports?


Lukeyson

[Dave_au]

Well it's certainly unexpected and would have caught Holden off-guard but essentially Ford plans to build a Camry, and when you look at the YTD sales performance of the Camry/Aurion twins it leaves a lot more to be desired.

[JPFS1]

This must have been axed very recently. Last week or 2. It has been still under consideration and researched up until then.

If this is true, then it's not surprising as costs for the program were escalating rapidly.

[mcnamg]

Does a 4 cylinder falcon mean bye bye Mondeo again?

[4Vman]

FWD I4 Falcon anyone???

** runs and hides***

[whales]

Just read in the Herald Sun, Holden already have diesel Commodores being tested at Lang Lang (Proving Ground) already also have a coupe and a convertable.
They might have just beat Ford again by a few hours

[WOTDAH]

It was clearly obvious that ford was not going to build the focus in oz. To this day it had never been confirmed to build it here and there was no preperation work done at all in the factory. So to stay afloat other options were need to be looked at.

[WOTDAH]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

FWD I4 Falcon anyone???

** runs and hides***

Nope. Motor runs north/south so RWD it is

[Road_Warrior]

Holden have been playing with diesel Commodores on again and off again for a couple of years now.

But this "announcement" is odd...usually when a decision of this magnitude is in the works, there is a leak, like the I6 announcement.

And yeah, a 4cyl Falcon is going to sit very stupidly in the lineup with the Mondeo. Unless it's going to be a fleet-only car, in which case goes totally contrary to the spiel that has been coming from Mr Burela about Ford pursuing private buyers and leaving the fleets alone.

[ausr11]

no export no focus built for oz diesal for terr and 4cyl eco boost for falcon and straight six inj gas

[janddbone]

Ford HQ has been saying that there will be 4cyl engines put in all vehicles as soon as practical. This should be no surprise to anyone...

It will complement the I6 great and will be brilliant on LPG! Assuming that the sources above are correct...

[Road_Warrior]

Carrrrm onnnnnn there's got to be some 'reputable' info about this out there by now :