XR5, should I?

[Talldude]

been a few stories that the engine mounts in a MPS break off.

kinda making ur engine fall out

http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=65861.0

too much power...........maybe

so go the Xr5 remember there is such a thing as too much power in a front wheel drive car.

[photn]

hmm still. Mazda3 MPS looks awesum..

[Marshy79]

Looks awesome?

haha I personally think it looks like a hairdressers car..... and from another point of view looks to similar to the other Maz3 models.

Good sleeper car...

But it all comes down to personal perception really.

[photn]

Originally Posted by Marshy79

Looks awesome?

haha I personally think it looks like a hairdressers car..... and from another point of view looks to similar to the other Maz3 models.

Good sleeper car...

But it all comes down to personal perception really.

i agree with you. it does look alike to other maz3 models. and yes it looks Very sleeper. but for some reason the interior to me looks alot better than that of the XR5. it seems to be a class above!! i dont know why it just does.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Danny

When your Cam proflies go from Stun, to Pulverise after 5k, You tend to want to actually...

Realistically, most normal day to day driving won't exceed 3000rpm. And at those kind of revs... well.

[Piotr]

Originally Posted by Danny

When your Cam proflies go from Stun, to Pulverise after 5k, You tend to want to actually...

Only the type R torque curve is very flat and won't go to plverise, no road car will

[Danny]

May be true, but what It feels like inside the car is different to what someone can easily pluck from 5 mins of google research... I've been passenger in a Teggy R and an S2000 and felt it for myself.

[Bucknaked]

What colours are these in. Blue, Orange, Black and Grey. Any others. Theres a heap of new ones on Car Sales and a few demostrators. I definatley like the Blue and the Grey. Black and Orange are nice as well, but I like the Blue and Grey. Not a fan of the cloth seats. Leather looks nice.

I've often thought about selling my focus and getting another Falcon, but like you, the XR5 looks really good and well priced.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Guliver_TwiSt

Personally I would get the new HONDA CIVIC Type R...

Rave reviews all over the NET...

Undoubtedly a far better car! (way better looking too)





8000RPM before you hit the Red Line.. and better 0-100 times than the XR5 even though slightly less power. etc...etc...

If you do your research you may find that it is belived to be the Current Hot HATCH King :d

Good Luck Mate!!

I don't want to be disrespectful. But IMO that front end looks cr%p !!

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by Marshy79

Pretty much sums it up what Teki04 said.

I personally thought the dash on the MPS was worse than the XR5... but that comes down to personal choice.

Out of all the cars.... i thought the XR5 had the best seats too. The GTI / R32 had the next best... harder... but their square bolsters would stop that hot patch i get on my sides with my seats.

Thanks!

I just think the MPS' dash is a little more classy and well laid out, but again - personal preference. Spent the day today driving a Mazda3 Maxx Sport, and must say the dash was pretty nice, but I wasn't a fan of the visibility it provided. The A piller could lose a car in it! Damn. (could have been different in the MPS given the seats... can't remember).

The XR5T's seats are really nice, but I love the leather, yet hate the fact it is strictly a 4 seater. Sure, I could re-trim the cloth, but again - not a fan of getting someone to touch my car. The GTI on the other hand has nice leather seats and to be honest, I sat better in the GTI then I did in the XR5T. Again, person preference. Is it enough to swing me into a GTI though? Never. I refuse to purchase a nanny-driving car. Sorry fellas, but that DSG gearbox means that HEAPS of 60yo women in my area (Inner West, Sydney) drive Golf GTIs. :

Originally Posted by Talldude

been a few stories that the engine mounts in a MPS break off.

kinda making ur engine fall out

http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=65861.0

too much power...........maybe

so go the Xr5 remember there is such a thing as too much power in a front wheel drive car.

You could then argue that Mazda are FIXING the problem. Ford on the other hand are having dramas with sorting out the problem with 'missing rear windows', as well as supply issues and delivery dates (out of their control, I know... but it's still an issue)

Originally Posted by photn

hmm still. Mazda3 MPS looks awesum..

I beg to differ. The MPS looks like a SP23 form a distance - similar front bumper and all! Plus, there are sooooooooo many Mazda3s on the road, it's disturbing. I think the wheel choice is the issue with me. It just doesn't look great unless you have the Sports Pack, and even then...

But then you said this;

Originally Posted by photn

i agree with you. it does look alike to other maz3 models. and yes it looks Very sleeper. but for some reason the interior to me looks alot better than that of the XR5. it seems to be a class above!! i dont know why it just does.

So yes, it's a sleeper. I guess if that's what you want... But then, I don't pay $40k for a understated car. I wanna show off what I have :

Originally Posted by Steffo

Realistically, most normal day to day driving won't exceed 3000rpm. And at those kind of revs... well.

I do. Actually, my car saw 5,000rpm today!

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

What colours are these in. Blue, Orange, Black and Grey. Any others. Theres a heap of new ones on Car Sales and a few demostrators. I definatley like the Blue and the Grey. Black and Orange are nice as well, but I like the Blue and Grey. Not a fan of the cloth seats. Leather looks nice.

I've often thought about selling my focus and getting another Falcon, but like you, the XR5 looks really good and well priced.

Simply,

Blue, Black, Grey, Silver, Red and Orange. I could get technical with the names of the colours, but who cares?

And yes, the Cloth seats don't feel that great, but at least they have colour! Full black leather isn't exactly eye-catching and dulls the interior. Plus, you lose that middle seat :


Cheers all!

[Bucknaked]

Originally Posted by Teki04

Simply,

Blue, Black, Grey, Silver, Red and Orange. I could get technical with the names of the colours, but who cares?

And yes, the Cloth seats don't feel that great, but at least they have colour! Full black leather isn't exactly eye-catching and dulls the interior. Plus, you lose that middle seat :


Cheers all!

Thats a good assortment of colours. I like the leather, but if you lose the middle seat, thats a little weird. Thanks for the Info

[photn]

Originally Posted by Steffo

Realistically, most normal day to day driving won't exceed 3000rpm. And at those kind of revs... well.

youve obviously never driven with me then huh rofl.

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

Thats a good assortment of colours. I like the leather, but if you lose the middle seat, thats a little weird. Thanks for the Info

Yep. Depending on the colour of your car, you can get Orange, Red or Silver highlights with cloth trim.

On other hand, get Leather and you just get BLACK. Oh, and you lose that middle seat because of a bigger 'hump' :sm_headba

Who ever buys a car for the rear seat comfort anyway? I just want to be able to fit the mates in after a drink or 10 @ the pub. _2:

[melbzetec]

Originally Posted by Steffo

Realistically, most normal day to day driving won't exceed 3000rpm. And at those kind of revs... well.

Did you mean to say that?

Given my Focus sits just under 3000 rpm in 4th at 80kmh, it is constantly going way over 3000 rpm under acceleration.

If you constantly change gears below 3000rpm in these cars, then they are real slugs.

IMHO anyone who is changing gears like that doesn't know how to drive these cars

[Piotr]

In normal driving I shift my fiesta @ 2.5K and its no slug, about the same acceleration as the cars around it.

[Danny]

Fiesta is geared a lot shorter than a focus Pie, Theyre intellingent gearing for acceleration. Which is why it feels liek its got more poke than 74kW.

As for you Sean, You make me do the sign of the cross when you drive, and I'M a nut behind the wheel!

[photn]

:evil3: Teehee... i dont know what your on about danny. i drive perfectly Normal.

What is it i do that makes you draw a Cross with your Fingures.??

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by melbzetec

Did you mean to say that?

Given my Focus sits just under 3000 rpm in 4th at 80kmh, it is constantly going way over 3000 rpm under acceleration.

If you constantly change gears below 3000rpm in these cars, then they are real slugs.

IMHO anyone who is changing gears like that doesn't know how to drive these cars

I shift every gear in the Fiesta at ~3000rpm except 4th to 5th, which I do at 80km/h. And yeah, my car sits at ~3000rpm at 80km/h in 4th too, which is why I put it in fifth!

With a puny 74kW 146Nm, and driving the way I do, 90% of the time I'm infront of most of traffic... people don't drive that aggressively... having your power all coming on at over 5000-6000rpm is useless.

These are after all, cars intended for every day use, not winning F1 GP's.

Oh and to FourBarrel... XR5? Yes you should. The only thing I don't like about them personally is the interior feel. Though some of the ones I've sat in after the first time at the Motorshow felt alot better.

[photn]

sure all the power comes in at 5-6 pu tht torque pull starts at 3 and i mean PULL. i just love that back in your seat Thrust you get from an accelerating car.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Steffo

having your power all coming on at over 5000-6000rpm is useless.

I take it you'll never be a proud owner of a 5.4L Boss engined car : :

[mitch_lx]

i would dislike having all my power high in the rpm range.

I love having 220 nm @ a low 1,950 rpm.


Keep the engine hovering around 1,500 through gears and its a rocket still.

Give it 2,500 and its enough to see you pull away from alot of things at the lights

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by mitch_lx

i would dislike having all my power high in the rpm range.

Who mentioned anything about 'ALL' the power there? My car has maximum power high up (gives you a kick in the seat when you hit it - makes it more fun!), but still has ample low down torque for the weight.

Remembering it develops 160Nm @ 2,000rpm - which is more torque then the Fiesta produces @ 4,000rpm - YET they weigh the same!

:



Mr Fordbarrel - have you test driven the XR5T yet?! Can't wait to read your thoughts.

[mitch_lx]

cant wait to be making 330 nm @2,500 rpm which will be soon.

After they plug a computer into my car and press a couple buttons

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Danny

I take it you'll never be a proud owner of a 5.4L Boss engined car : :

You're not wrong. If I can ever buy a new FPV... I'll be going there, asking for a Silhouette F6 Typhoon, leather, six-speed auto, and slapping the cash on the table. Wouldn't even look at the hopeless 8. But I made up my mind when the Typhoon was first released about that, then I drove one which cemented it further. If only I had $65k.... :(

[BPXR6T]

Originally Posted by Teki04

Mr Fordbarrel - have you test driven the XR5T yet?! Can't wait to read your thoughts.

I guess you mean me. ;) Nope, haven't driven the XR5. My situation has changed in the past few days and I'll most likely be trading my XR8 on a 911. :

I've wanted one since I was a kid. It'll just be a toy for use when I come to Melbourne. 0-100 in 5.0 flat. Insurance is going to suck as I'm under 30, but that's life I guess. Last time I tried to insure a Corvette I nearly choked and cancelled the purchase on principle. No way I was forking out $5K for insurance.

I'm still undecided on my daily transport. I'm going to have some fun with my Turbo EF then give that to my sister and look for something else. An XR5 still might be on the cards, not sure yet. If it were RWD or AWD I'd be pretty much sold.