Hoon Laws almost get CRANRS... - Page 2

BPXR6T · 20-08-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

You need to work on the knowledge a bit more

They never hand over 'badge numbers', this isn't america. If you also think that this will change their attitude you are sadly mistaken. I can guarantee that if they pulled you over for nothing really, be a smart **** like that and watch them find all sorts of things. A complaint to the filth is commonplace. People complain for all sorts of wierd stuff and a P plater wanting to complain for 'being talked to rudely' is not going to cut it.

Sorry bud. I was working a contract for a certain police force last week and was roped into mandatory professional standards training. Even contractors have to attend. I can state for a fact that they are required to hand over badge numbers. I can't be sure if the same policy applies for VicPol. But I'd be surprised if it didn't.

GT290 · 20-08-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crannersEL

Do the police freely give out there badge numbers? and do they then tone it down a little?

I think their numbers are supose to be visible and usualy on the collar. They could have been reported for using abusive language ect... but you want to have your ducks in a row and don't give em reason to pick you again, cause they would mark you after that.

Moral...you can't beat them. the right thing was done by swallowing the pride and ride it out.

XA-Coupe · 20-08-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FourBarrel

Sorry bud. I was working a contract for a certain police force last week and was roped into mandatory professional standards training. Even contractors have to attend. I can state for a fact that they are required to hand over badge numbers. I can't be sure if the same policy applies for VicPol. But I'd be surprised if it didn't.

the badge numbers aren't much use .. they actually only denote the badge's number. Their registered number is another thing. It may seem like a very small difference but it's huge in reality.

Rollin · 20-08-2006, 10:09 PM

its a legal requirement for a cop to give you their badge number if you ask for it.

i dont think they have to give you their name, but they are required by law to tell you their badge number, even if you are looking straight at it.

XA-Coupe · 20-08-2006, 10:11 PM

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BPXR6T · 20-08-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

the badge numbers aren't much use .. they actually only denote the badge's number. Their registered number is another thing. It may seem like a very small difference but it's huge in reality.

Yeah, not all of them carry badges too. But apparently they're all supposed to carry warrant cards. That's so they can legally arrest you when off duty etc...

ROOSTA · 20-08-2006, 10:22 PM

Cranners,

Welcome to my world.. lol.. i have been pulled over or questioned while parked well over 30 times in the last 2 weeks.. still no fines.. lol.. and they have been fully over the car at least 10 times..

Cheers,
Nik

crannersEL · 20-08-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ROOSTA

Cranners,

Welcome to my world.. lol.. i have been pulled over or questioned while parked well over 30 times in the last 2 weeks.. still no fines.. lol.. and they have been fully over the car at least 10 times..

Cheers,
Nik

I hope it never comes to that, if it did i would use pub transport lol

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CaRtZ · 20-08-2006, 10:26 PM

in vic u hold the right to ask thier rank, name and station. thats it. not badge no's. as xa-coupe said. we arent in the US

Sick EB · 20-08-2006, 10:33 PM

jeez your lucky to get away with it. touch wood i havent been pulled over once, although i have only had my L's since this Feb. and if anyone has seen my car, i dont think it is a cop magnet. lol. i think the only thing they can book me on is the car being too ugly, or it is too high (stock height).

Rollin · 20-08-2006, 10:45 PM

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wow you could have fooled me - my dad uses his badge number as his forums name on several forums....

Its cast into the badge on thier hats and also their actual "badge" which is in a leather case that flips open, like a small wallet.

Christiaan · 20-08-2006, 11:01 PM

QLD rules different to VIC? Maybe badge numbers are used in QLD, while victoria, they're not?

**Sorted** · 20-08-2006, 11:14 PM

All these reasons and more are why I purchased a Video Capable Camera Phone with card memory......Also for Road Ragers....

BPXR6T · 20-08-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ROOSTA

Welcome to my world.. lol.. i have been pulled over or questioned while parked well over 30 times in the last 2 weeks.. still no fines.. lol.. and they have been fully over the car at least 10 times..

****e, hope I don't cop this level of scrutiny. Especially with the turbo hanging off the side.

**Sorted** · 20-08-2006, 11:32 PM

Roosta lives in the Country Town - obviously he has upset them in some way and he is a marked man

As no one would get pulled over 30 times in 2 weeks for no reason at all as they are pure and innocent............

CaRtZ · 20-08-2006, 11:43 PM

yeah once they have picked a few in small towns they will sit around the corner and wait. has happened here in shepparton and will agian and again and again....

LTDHO · 21-08-2006, 12:12 AM

All organisations that deal with the public have a code of conduct. I know as I work with the public. If I were to swear to any member of the public I woould get a written warning. 3 warnings = unemployed. No one should be spoken to like that, this is how the police are loosing the respect of the general public.

Also on the issue of Police numbers. I use and see these all the time and can be very useful. Especially if you are trying to locate a police member and don't know which station he is at.

Christiaan · 21-08-2006, 12:19 AM

Lets put it this way, if a copper ever swore at me, it'd probably be for a good reason.

Don't give them a reason to do it, and they usually won't. If they were to do it un-provoked, i'd quickly tell them to get off their high horse, and stfu. I hope that they'd go over my car. Watch the bastards work.

banarcus · 21-08-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollin

wow you could have fooled me - my dad uses his badge number as his forums name on several forums....

Its cast into the badge on thier hats and also their actual "badge" which is in a leather case that flips open, like a small wallet.

Rollin, (badge) numbers are serial numbers for accountable items such as badges on Police uniform. You can ask me for my badge number and it will mean jack**** if you went down to the local to dob me in.

Christiaan · 21-08-2006, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by banarcus

Rollin, (badge) numbers are serial numbers for accountable items such as badges on Police uniform. You can ask me for my badge number and it will mean jack**** if you went down to the local to dob me in.

So what do we ask for if we want to identify a police officer later?

Kaddis · 21-08-2006, 01:05 AM

....i can once again for the 9445654th time see this thread turn into a cop bashing thread......

cran dog on with the stockies man and having all the stickers wont help with trying to avoid attention

GT290 · 21-08-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

they
don't
use
badge
numbers
We
don't
live
in
america

Maybe its not a badge #, maybe its a serial #. I am sure but there is some form of ID that they are required to give if asked. lol and yep its Australia aw right but if howard has his way it ill be america soon enuff.

XA-Coupe · 21-08-2006, 08:47 AM

People need to stop watching TV ... I said before what the useful number is but people obsess over 'badge numbers' because they hear it all the time on TV.
I am as guilty as any, but this is going way off track, I don't want more cop stories about what happened at 2.00am or how bad cops are. THis is about Cranners little episode and no more.

crannersEL · 21-08-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaddis

....i can once again for the 9445654th time see this thread turn into a cop bashing thread......

cran dog on with the stockies man and having all the stickers wont help with trying to avoid attention

Yeah ill prob have to put the stockies back on mate, and as for the stickers im promoting your fully sick company :evil_laug

**Polyal** · 21-08-2006, 10:49 AM

As much as it sucks to be pulled over, if police didn't do it there would be so many w@nkers getting away with stupid stuff.

You deserve to get pulled over, your mate deserved a mouth full, what if (and it does/could happen) he knocked his head on something while he was hanging out; wouldn't be very funny then.

Is anyone else getting a little tired of police threads? They are doing there job, I think people need to live with that unless you want e series people to be known as little sh|ts that cry about the police. Nothing personal Cranners, its just a trend thats been going on for a while, and its a shame.

Rollin · 21-08-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by banarcus

Rollin, (badge) numbers are serial numbers for accountable items such as badges on Police uniform. You can ask me for my badge number and it will mean jack**** if you went down to the local to dob me in.

So the 4 digit (though I believe newer officers are getting 5 digits) number cast into the 'shield' you are given, and the badge on your hat is there to help you tell which stuff is yours when its sitting on a desk at the station, and nothing more?

I think not...

Rollin · 21-08-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

As much as it sucks to be pulled over, if police didn't do it there would be so many w@nkers getting away with stupid stuff.

You deserve to get pulled over, your mate deserved a mouth full, what if (and it does/could happen) he knocked his head on something while he was hanging out; wouldn't be very funny then.

Is anyone else getting a little tired of police threads? They are doing there job, I think people need to live with that unless you want e series people to be known as little sh|ts that cry about the police. Nothing personal Cranners, its just a trend thats been going on for a while, and its a shame.

Sorry I didn't see this when I was typing before - Police officers can do their job, and then they can be idiots.

Pulling someone over for doing the wrong thing, telling them what they did was wrong and that they shouldn't do it again, giving them a fine/court appearance etc is ok by me, and probably everyone else on the forums.

However, swearing, yelling, acting in a threatening manner and abusing their position of power is not acceptable behavior - just like you would not expect your Boss to talk to you like that at work. Respect begets respect.

"Firmness with Courtesy" used to be the QLD Police force motto - now it is "With Honour we Serve"

What is the VIC one? "We Pwn you with Abuse" ?

crannersEL · 21-08-2006, 11:03 AM

I started this thread for a few reasons, i wanted to let people know how these hoon laws can be changed to how the policeman is feeling on the day/night.

I almost lost my car and a bit of money in fines because of the stupidity of one of my mates, that really had nothing to do with me.

I guess the lesson to learn is pick the freinds that jump in your car, and sure as hell make sure the don't play up....

frost · 21-08-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crannersEL

I started this thread for a few reasons, i wanted to let people know how these hoon laws can be changed to how the policeman is feeling on the day/night.

I almost lost my car and a bit of money in fines because of the stupidity of one of my mates, that really had nothing to do with me.

I guess the lesson to learn is pick the freinds that jump in your car, and sure as hell make sure the don't play up....

And put child lock on the back windows ;)

Sundeep · 21-08-2006, 11:41 AM

Dude you're lucky.

And to all this crap about badge numbers... if you ask for a badge number I can 101% guarantee they will #### you in the *** a lot harder. What you should be doing as looking at their badge which is clearly displayed on their left tit at all times.

What you should have done is write it down, take it to Croydon Police station and tell them what happened. They will look up the officers and their posts and then you can make a complaint to the ESD.

That was what I did when I was pulled over in Oakleigh that crappy night a few months ago. I hadn't done anything to provoke his actions though, which were very uncalled for.

Problem is your mate was looking for #########. So I wouldn't bother.

Sundeep