Falcon GT vs. HSV GTS-R - Wheels Review - Page 2

ELGT4me · 08-01-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

100% agreed

The EL GT, while a bit of an "aquired taste" in the looks department, carried a lot of firsts(and onlys) for Ford in a performance car:

Twin piston brakes (first)
Hydratrack (first and only)
Carbon wrapped tailshaft (first and only)
5 Mode adaptive auto trans programming (first)
Functional (and integrated hot air extraction bonnet scoop - EB GT was a gimmick) (first and only)
Proper extractors (first in the "modern era" and first for ceramic coating)

Thats before we even look at the quality interior, that in my eyes, rivals even my personal favorite in a Ford: T1/T2 TS+TL50

Daniel

This man is wise, lets not forget the unique front spindles, increased diameter front discs, unique shocks & springs & "GT only "nolathane
bushes & "GT only" steering rack. EEC 5 Calibration was unique to the EL GT. :sm_headba

ELGT4me · 08-01-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elgt146

Having owned one of these I would say they are a big disappointment

I went from an EF XR8 to an EL GT and the result was complete disappointment.

It was all show and no go. The XR8 seemed to outperform it, out cornered it and just seemed to feel like it was more a street car with cred.

The GT felt like I was going to church and i drove it hard. I lived on top of a mountain and it got driven very hard up and down that hill.

Nobody even knew what kind of car it was. People thought it was a falcon with spoliers. It is an acquired taste and even I couldn't get used to it.

I sold it without even blinking an eye.

Yes they will become collectors items, they had alot of firsts and will look nice sitting in the shed but take one out on the road and I wouldn't be racing anyone because you will get beaten.

A very credible assumption, but why do you call yourselF EL GT 146? Oh by the way the rear wing does not work on the roundabouts of N.Q.

elgt146 · 08-01-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

A very credible assumption, but why do you call yourselF EL GT 146? Oh by the way the rear wing does not work on the roundabouts of N.Q.

I wondered where you would be hiding in these forums.

Well good to see it is still going around corners.

Has the supercharger gone on yet?

**CAT600** · 08-01-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

If only FPV would go to those lengths to improve handling, rather than just some shocks and springs.

Ouch!

Cop that Mr Barrett, didnt you come from FPR?

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ELGT4me · 09-01-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elgt146

I wondered where you would be hiding in these forums.

Well good to see it is still going around corners.

Has the supercharger gone on yet?

Why would I put supercharger on it? (That would be like lowering an EL GT & pretending you know more about suspensions & handling than the blokes who built & road tested the car?)

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Disciple · 09-01-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

Judas , good to see you are spreading the usual misinformation again!!!

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I can see I've hit a sore spot there champ. Sorry about that. My opinion is never misinformation tho, only my opinion.

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tapeworm · 09-01-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Disciple

I can see I've hit a sore spot there champ. Sorry about that. My opinion is never misinformation tho, only my opinion.

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We have a renegade~

ELGT4me · 09-01-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Disciple

I can see I've hit a sore spot there champ. Sorry about that. My opinion is never misinformation tho, only my opinion.

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No sore spot here my "fiend", how about you post a pic of your "bucket of crap" (If its worthy of web space ) I will respond with a pic of my "bucket of crap"

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Disciple · 09-01-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

No sore spot here my "fiend", how about you post a pic of your "bucket of crap" (If its worthy of web space ) I will respond with a pic of my "bucket of crap"

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Hehe.

http://www.ecn.net.au/~belated/evonew3.jpg

Now you.

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ELGT4me · 09-01-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Disciple

Hehe.

http://www.ecn.net.au/~belated/evonew3.jpg

Now you.

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My sincere apologies, I thought this was FORD FORUMS, my mistake, now which EL GT do you wish to see? The Navy Blue or Heritage Green? Unfortunately your car is not worthy of web space here. (Try the ricer forums)

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Poetic Justice · 09-01-2008, 07:50 PM

This is a discussion re: EL GT v VS GTS-R, not EL GT vs Evo 10 or whatever it may be...

Leave the bickering out

Disciple · 09-01-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

My sincere apologies, I thought this was FORD FORUMS, my mistake, now which EL GT do you wish to see? The Navy Blue or Heritage Green? Unfortunately your car is not worthy of web space here. (Try the ricer forums)

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We can surely both agree we like different things.

We're not bickering, just having fun.

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ELGT4me · 09-01-2008, 08:28 PM

I think this has run its course, lock it up methinks

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AWD Chaser · 09-01-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Disciple

We can surely both agree we like different things.

We're not bickering, just having fun.

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Well have fun somewhere else.

I spent quite a while scanning and uploading these images, purely for everyone else to enjoy.

If you don't have anything relevent to add to this thread, take your bickering somewhere else.

Thanks,
Chaser

Werd. · 09-01-2008, 08:54 PM

They look .
I'd rather a stocker. Sure they'd be great in a museum, but on the road you'd this it's a riced up junk bucket.

Dezza · 09-01-2008, 08:59 PM

I love the look of the EL GT. They look incredibly mean and have an awesome interior. As for EVOs, I respect that they are incredibly fast, but they look like crap. IMO the best looking cars are low, long and wide. The GT fits that bill. The EVO looks tall, short and skinny

**Falcon Coupe** · 09-01-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Disciple

We can surely both agree we like different things.

We're not bickering, just having fun.

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You're comments are not seen as fun by the ELGT owners.
Keep this to the topic.

4Vman · 09-01-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Werd.

They look .
I'd rather a stocker. Sure they'd be great in a museum, but on the road you'd this it's a riced up junk bucket.

Any chance on an english translation of that?

ELGT4me · 09-01-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elgt146

I wondered where you would be hiding in these forums.

Well good to see it is still going around corners.

Has the supercharger gone on yet?

Mate, I don't hide, I lurk. If I have nothing intelligent, informative, or enlightening to add to a post ,or reply, I will not use up webspace. Nobody asked you to endorse the EL GT, your criticisms are your business right or wrong, but to add credibillty to your thoughts, perhaps you should change your username. Don,t forget, performance is no longer valued in a straight line, the car must be able to stop & turn as well. Out of all the ex EL GT owners I have met, you are the only one, who has not regretted selling their car. Yet you commanded top dollar when you sold yours. With out blinking an eye maybe, but the other eye was on the bank balance!!!

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XR_Strider_GuY · 10-01-2008, 01:33 AM

This article brings back memories and in the hey days of V8's being mostly about torque over out and out horse power. The GT has 420Nm of torque with a difference of 70Nm between 1500rpm to 5250rpm.

The GTS-R is even more impressive with 507Nm at 3600rpm (albeit the blue printed option engine), widely regarded as one of the most torquey new era V8's around. The 700odd cc advantage shows no matter how good the GT is the GTS-R has the power and torque advantage.

Ofcourse being a Ford man at heart I would take the GT if I had to own one of these future classics, but geez reality, I wouldn't knock back either. I have been in a series 1 VT GTS which has a similar engine to the GTS-R and it was a nice ride indeed with plenty of bottom end lazy v8 oommmphhh. I would like to go in an EL GT one day.

Oh, something out of the ELGT I think they should of used on the later model performance falcons is the excellent hydratrak diff.

T3ts50 · 10-01-2008, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kia Chaser

Well have fun somewhere else.

I spent quite a while scanning and uploading these images, purely for everyone else to enjoy.

If you don't have anything relevent to add to this thread, take your bickering somewhere else.

Thanks,
Chaser

And you did a good job. Brings back memories, Being a 16 year old kid when these cars were released.

HLC · 10-01-2008, 09:33 AM

the pdfs wont work on my computer :cry:

which sucks, these two cars were my favourite cars back in the day, when i was like 11!!!!!! i'd take either in a heartbeat.

drew`SEVNT5 · 13-01-2008, 08:29 PM

wow....I had forgotten how visually challenged (ie: sinfully ugly) these models are (let alone the EB, which was only slightly better).

Thank christ Ford fast-car design has moved on....no use having a sporty chick whos face is like a busted pie(ie: may perform well, but christ, shes ugly)

Bossxr8 · 13-01-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

wow....I had forgotten how visually challenged (ie: sinfully ugly) these models are (let alone the EB, which was only slightly better).

Thank christ Ford fast-car design has moved on....no use having a sporty chick whos face is like a busted pie(ie: may perform well, but christ, shes ugly)

ie. Jana Rawlinson

ELGT4me · 13-01-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

wow....I had forgotten how visually challenged (ie: sinfully ugly) these models are (let alone the EB, which was only slightly better).

Thank christ Ford fast-car design has moved on....no use having a sporty chick whos face is like a busted pie(ie: may perform well, but christ, shes ugly)

Mate, !!!It would be like owning an xr6t, when you could be driving a typhoon.

drew`SEVNT5 · 14-01-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

Mate, !!!It would be like owning an xr6t, when you could be driving a typhoon.

hahah....nice!

but wrong......given that both the xr6t and the f6 don't induce vomit(unlike the EB/EL GT), the analogy just dosen't work, my friend

tapeworm · 14-01-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

ie. Jana Rawlinson

Haha .... true.

Call me visually challenged, but I like the look of the EL GT.

LeadFoot81 · 14-01-2008, 11:05 AM

Thanks for posting the article Kia, great read.

Regardless of how quick it was, the GTS-R looks like a home made ricer, where the EL is class all the way inside and out (even if you dont love its look)

ELGT4me · 14-01-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

hahah....nice!

but wrong......given that both the xr6t and the f6 don't induce vomit(unlike the EB/EL GT), the analogy just dosen't work, my friend

What a shame, in the immortal words of Laminge " Darwin missed this one too!!!"

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drew`SEVNT5 · 14-01-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ELGT4me

What a shame, in the immortal words of Laminge " Darwin missed this one too!!!"

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well, if we are talking the theory of evolution, i'd say that one of our cars is more advanced than another...christ, my alfa romeo comes close, just with a slightly more-oldschool injection system

ach! all in good fun

you enjoy your automotivie ipecac, ill go enjoy the car I bought because I couldn't afford a typhoon