Why are we all so angry all the time?

[Geez Louise]

Treat people as you want to be treated....it would be good if more people followed this simple rule.

As people get busier, lead more stressful lives, they forget this. Sad isnt it!

[xy500]

probably not relevant, but i'm going to add a road rage anecdote...
was driving, in a pretty dodgy part of town admittedly, turning right at traffic lights when someone from the oncoming lane who was turning left into the same road as me. They ignore the give way sign and dotted line across their path and try to drive in the same lane as me as i'm entering it. They honked, sped up and then proceeded to abuse me, saying "learn the road rules".
Funny thing about it was the people driving were an old couple. Couldn't help but laugh at being abused by a nanna.
I guess it helps if you can laugh at the angry buggers, cos they're usually acting pretty stupid.

[Trendseeker]

In my opinion, the anger is caused by increasing population density. More people trying to use the same quantity of boat ramps, car spaces, road lanes, parks, sporting fields, shopping centre facilities, public transport, beaches and fishing spots to name a few. People, like the rude and angry person who confronted the OP, build up anger as they experience delays and competition from other people who jostle for access to their share of the decreasing facilities, and in the end they eventually explode over a trivial issue. And who can we blame for all of this? Well, I would offer up the state government who for the past ten years has allowed overdevelopment to occur without any real planning. The quality of life in most parts of Sydney, including the shire, has declined as a result.

[Pinch]

This seems a pretty Australian thing. Travelled pretty extensively over the past few years and EVERYWHERE is much more chilled. The great irony is Australia is supposedly reknowned to be so laid back??? Pah!

Comparatively very little road rage in Sth East Asia or Central and Western Europe either. And people drive C R A Z Y in those places! Everyone just goes 'meh' and goes with the flow.

But alas I guess we must monkey-see, monkey-do with our North American idols. Why Australia has chosen to emulate the US state of mind over European boggles my mind.

Soon everyone will be packing and driving along acting out The Offsprings 'Bad Habit' (Google the lyrics).

[steve.zissou]

This wont be a popular answer but,

the reason for more agro - older population.

Grumpy old buggers seem to be everywhere these days.
I get it on my bike when lane splitting (which is legal if trafic is stopped).
I get it in my boat when pciking up someone from the warf (and everyone is qued up to trailer out - I'm not going to wait 2 hours to pick up someine in 10 seconds)
i get it when overtaking someone doing 70 in a 80 zone (have grumpy buggers get out at lights to start something)

I can speculate why (insert old people joke here) but i dont care - I just carry on, happy in the fact that most angry people have miserable lives and I aint one of them.

[Auslandau]

Bloody hell ... where did that come from?

I will let you in on a little secret ..... there were old people around in the olden days. Old people are not a race but you in a few years .... I know its hard to imagine!!!

You aint miserable yet but with that attitude ..... you will be very soon!

And I am one of those grumpy old buggars ........



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[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by jrckelley

This wont be a popular answer but,

the reason for more agro - older population.

Grumpy old buggers seem to be everywhere these days.
I get it on my bike when lane splitting (which is legal if trafic is stopped).
I get it in my boat when pciking up someone from the warf (and everyone is qued up to trailer out - I'm not going to wait 2 hours to pick up someine in 10 seconds)
i get it when overtaking someone doing 70 in a 80 zone (have grumpy buggers get out at lights to start something)

I can speculate why (insert old people joke here) but i dont care - I just carry on, happy in the fact that most angry people have miserable lives and I aint one of them.

if "lane splitting" is where you rude bike riders ride between cars then i agree you should be told how much of a you are, no matter if its legal or not this kind of rude behavour just adds to the bad driving experience for people out there

[BOSHOG]

double post

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by auslandau

Bloody hell ... where did that come from?

I will let you in on a little secret ..... there were old people around in the olden days. Old people are not a race but you in a few years .... I know its hard to imagine!!!

You aint miserable yet but with that attitude ..... you will be very soon!

And I am one of those grumpy old buggars ........

haha spot on.......

[paule11]

Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.
Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. The dark side.
If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.
The dark side is quicker, easier, more seductive.
Your ally is the Force. A powerful ally it is.
Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future...the past. Old friends long gone.
You must learn control.

Wise words from that great jedi ..Yoda
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Treat people as you want to be treated....it would be good if more people followed this simple rule.

As people get busier, lead more stressful lives, they forget this. Sad isnt it!



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[XR6Runner]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

if "lane splitting" is where you rude bike riders ride between cars then i agree you should be told how much of a you are, no matter if its legal or not this kind of rude behavour just adds to the bad driving experience for people out there

I honestly don't want to start anything, but you have to acknowledge that for a motorcyclist, the thing they need to avoid most is other cars. If they lane split at a set of lights to get to the front, that is right thing to do for them, as they will get ahead of all the traffic and be in the 'safe' zone, which is far away possible from any other car.

You wouldn't believe how many car drivers out there change lanes/merge/take turns without even looking or indicating, and its this sort of thing that causes a lot of accidents with motorcyclists on the road.

They are allowed to lane split, and for a good reason. And make sure you give them room and not move as close as you can to the car next to you, as i've seen many times, just so they cant get past you at a set of lights, now that is rude.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by XR6Runner

I honestly don't want to start anything, but you have to acknowledge that for a motorcyclist, the thing they need to avoid most is other cars. If they lane split at a set of lights to get to the front, that is right thing to do for them, as they will get ahead of all the traffic and be in the 'safe' zone, which is far away possible from any other car.

You wouldn't believe how many car drivers out there change lanes/merge/take turns without even looking or indicating, and its this sort of thing that causes a lot of accidents with motorcyclists on the road.

They are allowed to lane split, and for a good reason. And make sure you give them room and not move as close as you can to the car next to you, as i've seen many times, just so they cant get past you at a set of lights, now that is rude.

theres a whole thread related to this, my views wont change in regards to the rudeness of others so lets just move on lol

[Fled74]

If you think the road rage here is bad, I invite you to live in Manila (the Philippines) for a while. With people getting shot over minor traffic altercations, you'll be glad to come back to Oz.
I migrated here about 6 years ago, and I haven't heard of anyone murdered over a parking spot yet.

[InTrail]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

.... my views wont change in regards to the rudeness of others so lets just move on lol

Says a lot more about yourself, than it does about your perceived rude behaviour.

In a recent submission to a road traffic regulations review, VicRoads stated they had not one record of lane filtering resulting in an accident.

[Mad Maxine]

I've been at the pointy end of abuse for having the temerity to be in the right, and the dipstick who has been doing the wrong thing has the audacity to give me the finger as they sail past on the inside lane, or at 80km/h in the 40 zone, and it peeves me, but what can you do?

The people we see being rude, having no sense of ettiquette or just acting like obnoxious and ignorant savages have their parents to thank. Our culture is changing, and from what I've seen, there has been a distinct increase in people who just have less respect for others, little or no respect for authority and no idea what is right.

I don't know if it's a case of spare the rod adn spoil the child, or just a case of parents not spending time and effort to instill respect in their kids. The media has to shoulder a large proportion of the blame - popular culture includes shows lik the Simpsons where the main amusement is where Bart pushes all the boundaries and other less amusing examples where the cheap laughs often come from some innocent-faced kid mouthing off to his/her parents. Kids see this, think it's the way to behave. Acting like you don't care? Wanting to be cool and tough at school? Peer group pressure? All part of the process.

Don't get me wrong, every one of us has faced these exact situations in our childhoods, I'll bet, it's just that today's kids seem to care less about others and only about themselves (a massive generalisation, I know). They know all their rights and entitlements, and seem to have their way, growing up to be adults with no comprehension of good manners, respect and consideration.

Getting off my soapbox now.

MM, grumpy old woman

[The G6ET Spot]

Not all people are angry. Just the morons are.

Peace, love and moonbeams to you all

[Bucknaked]

Originally Posted by RAPID XR8

Not all people are angry. Just the morons are.

Peace, love and moonbeams to you all

Your a turbo owner now. You should be more uptight an Angry like other Turbo owners :

[XWildGT]

I think it is because there are to many rules and regulations and do gooders which are restricting or freedom more and more and all the new technically which makes our life's more busier and hectic so deep inside everyone is ready to explode unless you drink

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by Pinch

Soon everyone will be packing and driving along acting out The Offsprings 'Bad Habit' (Google the lyrics).

People are already acting out the following:

Kill the President
Elders
Down the Line
I Choose

Just a few examples :P :P :P

[deesun]

I think it's partly because we have the no blame principle. Also called the no responsibility principle. We can get as angry as we like and do what we like and accept absolutely no blame nor responsibility for our actions.

[V3RSAC3]

I'm always happy

[vik351]

Originally Posted by V3RSAC3

I'm always happy

Thats cos you live in Adelaide and are still on Ipanas "Happy Clappers Taxi Forum"

vik...
: : :

[trippytaka]

Most people it's because they are just plain rude... me? It's because those rude ones are just ************ idiots.

[ford man xf]

We just have it way too easy in this country and when things don't go peoples way they can't handle it and get angry and a lot of the time resort to violence thinking it will solve the problem.

[Keepleft]

Some good posts here.

Anyhow, I say its by in large due cultural change and infustructure not keeping up with population expansion, = high demand for allready busy road networks, shopping locales, ramps etc as someone else highlighted.

Driving poorly is a national pastime, convinced a sizeable portion of the population 'enjoy' annoying other drivers, some see and act so as a way of 'getting back' at society for their perceived ills of society, be that perception, point by point, accurate or not.

Example, the 'slap on the wrist' judicial sentencing for some serious offences/behaviour, an outcome which arguably reduces the cost or quality of human life value.

[220]

Some good posts and a bit of truth in most of them.

I think the fact we are now that over regulated in everything we do has a lot to do with it. People are conitnually being told they must do this, can't do that, that when they see someone doing something they can't or think is wrong they take it as a personal insult even if it has no impact on them what so ever.
Bikers splitting lanes for example how does it effect cars being passed the bikes will pull away from the lights and not be seen again, they wont extend the time of any motorist trip. Just seems to be the attitude of I can't do that so even if your allowed I'm going to stop you.

[xy500]

Originally Posted by 220

Some good posts and a bit of truth in most of them.

I think the fact we are now that over regulated in everything we do has a lot to do with it. People are conitnually being told they must do this, can't do that, that when they see someone doing something they can't or think is wrong they take it as a personal insult even if it has no impact on them what so ever.
Bikers splitting lanes for example how does it effect cars being passed the bikes will pull away from the lights and not be seen again, they wont extend the time of any motorist trip. Just seems to be the attitude of I can't do that so even if your allowed I'm going to stop you.

yeah its no problem for a motorist, UNLESS they split lanes in the red light queue and the motorcyclist is an idiot and decides to putt off slowly - blocking traffic, or worse yet, its a scooter that couldnt pull away at a reasonable pace. And its still inconsiderate.
I've had my fair share of motorcyclists push their way to the line at the lights, then take off like its a worlds slowest acceleration competition.
And if they're lane splitting moving cars, well i shouldnt need to explain why that's dumb.

[ford man xf]

The other day while coming home on the M1, I indicated to turn left, now I knew there was another car there, so I patiently waited for the car to either go past or slow down and let me in, there was a big enough gap as it was, but I always try and do the right thing and give ample warning I am changing lanes, anyhow this car decides to just speed up a little, so I have my indicator on for at least 15 seconds, the turn is coming up, so I then merge into the left lane, and this ********** decides to get on the horn and carry on, drives up next to me, I got so angry, I tell you what if he pulled over I would have pulled up behind to him and done something stupid, but I managed to remain calm, turns of the 'gentleman' driving the car was of foreign decent, the worst drivers in this country, without naming you all know what I mean. My point being, it is usaually someone elses stupidity and selfishness that gets people mad, if people had some consideration on the road there would be a lot less abuse and violence, the road is for everyone to use, and I am ashamed to be part of Generation "Me".

[T3ts50]

Ive noticed in the past week more drvers becoming impatient. Ive been high beemed twice and tooted at once in the last week while changing lanes when there has been a suitable gap. One of the drivers who high beamed me gave the same treatment to someone else when they changed lanes.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by InTrail

Says a lot more about yourself, than it does about your perceived rude behaviour.

In a recent submission to a road traffic regulations review, VicRoads stated they had not one record of lane filtering resulting in an accident.

typical motorcyclist.... pointing the finger at everyone else