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01-10-2008, 08:26 PM | #31 | |||
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01-10-2008, 08:32 PM | #32 | ||
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In the late 80's, the first GT-R was a clearly different car to the Skyline, the Skyline was a boxy reared wedge.
Theyve returned to that, its a GT-R. On that, Id have one, pffft, Id even have the late 80's version, theyre still damn quick by todays standards. |
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01-10-2008, 09:17 PM | #33 | |||
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Some people find all this hard to believe but it is for real. They are very highly tuned and the running costs are pretty phenominal. |
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01-10-2008, 09:37 PM | #34 | ||
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Perhaps it would look different in the flesh but the GT-R doesn't really grab me with its styling. That said, it goes like a scalded cat and when you're behind the wheel of one, you can't see what it looks like. If I was looking at a car in that price range I would be hard pressed to overlook the GT-R on performance and handling alone.
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01-10-2008, 10:31 PM | #35 | |||
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Step aside for someone who can actually pay cash for one of each. Both are desirable cars. As beautiful as it is, the older blokes would look a bit silly driving around in a hairdresser's car like the GT-R, wouldn't they? The masculine alternative is the W427. There's always the Euro models, but they're hardly a statement of carefree confidence. |
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01-10-2008, 10:39 PM | #36 | |||
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I thought it was plasma recoating on the bores at 100,000kms... And I beleive the speedlimiting is gone for Australia, and the GPS doesnt know any of the racetracks in Aus. And PMSL at GTR being called "Hairdressers car" above....so, does that make the 997 991 Turbo, 430, Gallardo all hairdressers cars? Hahahah
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01-10-2008, 10:43 PM | #37 | |||
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This price of 148k is not including the LCT. Final price will be around 170+. There are prices of the first service going around indicating it could be in excess of 1500AUD. This page which I can't understand has a break down of the costs The tranny fluid alone costs $600 for 5 litres. Service intervals are every 6 months or 10000km. The GTR is NOT a Skyline. It wasn't built from a donor car, it is a unique platform to the Nissan family. Last edited by Wretched; 01-10-2008 at 10:50 PM. |
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01-10-2008, 11:17 PM | #38 | ||
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GTR is Definately a bargain.
M3 at 150+, m5 at 230k iirc, C63 AMG at 140ish and the lexus is-f at 140-145k and being a euro car fan i hate to say the gtr would shows all of those cars the door on any race track. I think ive read the only porsche quicker around the ring is the carrera gt. If you find a quicker new car with a warranty for that price buy it! Running costs will be expensive but im guessing comparable to say a porsche gt3 or 911t or even an f430. If the GTR was 150 after LCT it would be rediculously cheap and even 170 is still cheap. They could have priced it around the 200k mark. Your all gonna go up in arms saying how can i call 150k rediculously cheap but in reality cars of this nature are going to cost that much. The GTR is definately a super car that your getting for the money of a performance saloon and its definately not a skyline. If the GTR is a skyline then a falcon is a mondeo just changed a little bit. See the difference now? Definately not comparable to what FPV do to regular falcons. As for the 155k commodore - The day an aussie saloon is as quick as the new GTR will be a massive step for Australia and their automotive engineers. That day though, is still quite far away. If the GTR is a car for hairdressers then were all a bunch children running around pink pedal cars. It is one car that should not be sneezed at
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Masculine alternative the W427? Im thinking more allong the line of someone that has the cash to spend on a supercar, has no intention on using it and is only buying it for the image of owning a 'supercar' (w427 being called a supercar in the first place is borderline lunacy. If thats the case then casey donovan can be the next underwear model in ralf.)
If your going to buy a car of that stature, plan to use it and you look past the GTR because of 'hairdresser' status then your ego needs to be assessed imho. If your just after a bit of speed, fun and a v8 sound then just bloody buy a worked X series falcon with a locker because when compared to true supercars thats all the w427 is (not to take away from the x series guys i love them to bits). The W427 IS the tarted up taxi and the GTR IS what the w427 could only ever dream to be.
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02-10-2008, 12:09 AM | #41 | ||
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Not bad looking for a Renault lol.
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02-10-2008, 01:53 AM | #42 | ||
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This car owns anything made here, performance wise.
Kinda sad really that our cars are left behind. But we know Nissan funded it with what is basically dirty money from x-trail and tiida sales all over the planet. With half their budget and a forged approval from Ford USA we could plant a 600ci engine in a ute and put it in its place.
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Well said. The engineering behind the development of the GTR is light years ahead of the w427 which is basically a Commie with a big motor that's got around the same performance as my F6 with injectors Walbro and Blue Power tune. Sledgehammer and I have seen the GTR in the flesh at Bowdens and to all those that say they're unimpressed after seeing pictures (like I was) ... just wait till you see it in the flesh! It's one very exciting looking beast. Now .... if I could just win lotto ..... |
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02-10-2008, 07:37 AM | #44 | ||
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From all reports the GTR is an awesome car but you have to give Holden some credit. At least they had the balls to have a crack at a "supercar" and if nothing else it got people talking. The W427 may not compare favourably to the GTR but its not alone. Some decent car makers vehicles look poor value when compared to the GTR.
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02-10-2008, 07:57 AM | #45 | ||
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And GM always has the Z06 Corvette and the new Cadillac CTS-V
So least they make some quick cars. |
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I saw a brand spankin new GTR on the back of a truck with what looked like a Nismo Micra hehe. It was the really nice blood red colour going south on pennant hills road in pennant hills. 1st aussie delivered?
needless to say a few people almost guttered their wheels
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If you need to see the demographic, get down to the Gold Coast and notice who drives the Porches, 350z, etc. The 353kW , 0-100 in 3.5 seconds means nothing to those types, it's all about persona. |
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So is $152K on road drive away? or is that without LCT and stamp duty?
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02-10-2008, 09:11 AM | #50 | ||
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Well they weren't lying when they said that they wouldn't retail at more than $160k +onroads....
The only good thing now is that an R34 GTR will become much more affordable once these hit the showrooms... So in 10 years time this 35 GTR will become more affordable... Just gotta be patient :
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02-10-2008, 09:19 AM | #52 | |||
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Some fellows seek current true performance vehicles and I'm guessing from what I've read and seen that the GT-R would deliver that. Not all blokes want to drive a 20+ year old muscle car that even in it's day would be considered a stretch to be a performance vehicle on the world stage, and by todays standards is out featured and out performed by your average Toyota. If the gold chain brigade only care about image, then why would they dump there Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and drive around in a Nissan?
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This car sounds like a highly strung high performance coupe that's going to cost a bomb to keep on the road and maintain properly. A great toy with outstanding performance for those with lots of folding and who enjoy spirited track days, but hardly as versatile and practical for every day use like the M or AMG cars are... I think id still prefer something German regardless of how quick it chews up Nurburgring.. Sophistication and Class V "PS" Rice???!!! :
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02-10-2008, 10:18 AM | #57 | |||
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Welll no and yes. I think some people drive old cars because they like them, many can't afford anything better. As we see daily on this forum, people buy them simply for the brand loyalty. Others buy them because they want a V8 and can modify them with a pair of pliers and fencing wire for better than average performance. I'm sure I'm not alone on this forum as one who could easily drive around in a tarty car, but am quite comfortable in something like the Calais8 and a Falcon....if Ford had the equivalent. I have a 45 year old Falcon to play with, but I wouldn't use it as a daily drive. If I was to put any credence into the hachneyed "tarted up taxi" slur, Falcon would be way off the radar, followed closely by Merc, BMW, Toyota, etc (just about every taxi in Brisbane seems to be a Falcon and I haven't seen a VE Commodore being used as one yet). I can only guess what makes a gold chained brigadier behave the way he does. Maybe it's an an egocentricity, maybe it's a denial, a midlife crisis, lack of self esteem and self actualisation, ethinicity, Peter Panism, chest hair pride, latent sexuality, dislike of local brands, etc. But gravitate they do, to bling and icons. |
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02-10-2008, 12:36 PM | #59 | ||
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I've sat my bum in one but that's it.
This was at muscle car masters this year. There are two Vic dealers that wil be "authorised Nissan GT-R dealers", one is Werribee the other I can't remember but is Eastern subs i think (not sure of whether it's Oakleigh or Blackburn etc....) this one has been in the mags etc.... Grey Imports have been around for longer than a month - Donut King racing competed in Targa in one, and just the other week a 25-odd year old won Targa West in one, beating Jim Richards.
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