HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado. - Page 2

b0son · 09-12-2017, 10:45 AM

Maybe they should just stick to caravans...

Ben73 · 09-12-2017, 12:01 PM

"tweeks" Colorado? What a joke that sticker pack is.

Unfortunately I bet the Ranger Raptor will be the same.

XRtowcar · 09-12-2017, 12:49 PM

Visited the HSV website to find there is hardly any Commodore related info standing out anymore.
A little link down the bottom of the page.
Strange seeing they haven’t finished building them yet.
Plenty there for the Camaro which they haven’t started building yet.

commodorenutt · 10-12-2017, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0son

Maybe they should just stick to caravans...

Walkinshaw Caravan behind the Colorado Sportscat - the ultimate cashed-up bogan accomodation for Summernats or a Bathurst weekend...

roddy1960 · 10-12-2017, 07:17 PM

We're in for interesting times. I wonder now if GM will end up bothering with a RHD Camaro when maybe it makes better financial sense for Corvette to right hand drive markets .The conversion method could be it for Camaro.
Who knows ?. Then again Ford aren't likely to do the fancy GT 350R or GT 500's for us directly either . Going by this Motor write up about 18 months ago the best we get is the standard GT but with the special kits available at a pretty big jump in prices going by the article..https://www.motormag.com.au/news/160...d-in-australia I suppose the FTE fits in there somewhere now.

jpd80 · 10-12-2017, 07:29 PM

Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

Also thinking along the HSV lines,
Could Ford import LHD GT350s and have FPV do conversions with factory RHD bits?
Just a thought if interest builds up enough...

mike_nofx · 11-12-2017, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Ford on the other hand, has only ever operated under the Ford brand. No loss of badge value.

And its funny how the Mustang doesn't even wear a Ford badge

Trump · 11-12-2017, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpd80

Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

Also thinking along the HSV lines,
Could Ford import LHD GT350s and have FPV do conversions with factory RHD bits?
Just a thought if interest builds up enough...

I was under the impression that the GT350's and other non-standard variants were built in the same manner that the Commodore-based HSV product was built.

something wrong · 11-12-2017, 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=jpd80;6048897]Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

QUOTE]

That's what I thought, it would make importing them illegal wouldn't it.

Nikked · 11-12-2017, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben73

"tweeks" Colorado? What a joke that sticker pack is.

Unfortunately I bet the Ranger Raptor will be the same.

Didn't realise reworking the suspention was a sticker...

jpd80 · 11-12-2017, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trump

I was under the impression that the GT350's and other non-standard variants were built in the same manner that the Commodore-based HSV product was built.

No, Ford just use the Shelby name, the engine is special, hand built but the
GT350 goes down the line with all the rest and leaves Flat rock complete.

The Shelby you're thinking of is the Supersnake, that car is modded at Shelby
and sold as their car.

Ben73 · 11-12-2017, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikked

Didn't realise reworking the suspention was a sticker...

Yeah they are making it handle better onroad because hardly anyone takes 4x4 utes offroad these days.
Considering every second duel cab ute is driven like a sports car on the road, having better suspension would be a good thing. Also a better engine will be useful because most owners will actually use the engine to it's full capability. Usually every time the left lane ends.

Side note I'm loving the retro 90's steering wheel too.

**DFB FGXR6** · 17-01-2018, 08:33 PM

http://www.caradvice.com.au/614507/h...cing-revealed/

$90,000 for the Camero
$130,000 for the Silverado
$65,000 to $72,000 for the Colorado

jpd80 · 18-01-2018, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

http://www.caradvice.com.au/614507/h...cing-revealed/

$90,000 for the Camero
$130,000 for the Silverado
$65,000 to $72,000 for the Colorado

Jeez, the current import converters will breathe a lot easier seeing those prices....

If only Ford still built RHD F250, a crew cab XLT Diesel for $90K would clean up.

Chopped · 18-01-2018, 12:49 PM

Considering there was a market for 90k+ HSVs then I would say there is also a market for a 90k SS Camaro. Similar performance to the LSA Commodores too.

Will be nice to see Camaros on the roads with Mustangs.

HELLO Chrysler.....where are the Dodges....

Bossxr8 · 18-01-2018, 02:14 PM

You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay an extra 30k for a Camaro over a 2018 Mustang.

BENT_8 · 18-01-2018, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay an extra 30k for a Camaro over a 2018 Mustang.

Righto, HSV should sell a **** load of Camaro's to Aussies in the next few years then...

asagaai · 18-01-2018, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay an extra 30k for a Camaro over a 2018 Mustang.

First and final call for all the Australian quarry miners out there....

Bossxr8 · 18-01-2018, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Righto, HSV should sell a **** load of Camaro's to Aussies in the next few years then...

There's suckers born every minute. If it was a factory rhd drive car like a Mustang it would be less than 60k.

BENT_8 · 18-01-2018, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

There's suckers born every minute. If it was a factory rhd drive car like a Mustang it would be less than 60k.

Why dont they buy one in factory RHD for 60k then...oh thats right, there isnt one.
Ironic how thousands of people have bought the inferior current model Mustang when they could have waited 2 years and bought the next model which is far superior, yet buying a current model camaro, which must come with the cost of conversion or wouldn't be an option, is a poor decision and buyers should wait for the factory RHD model in 2 years.

Bossxr8 · 18-01-2018, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Why dont they buy one in factory RHD for 60k then...oh thats right, there isnt one.
Ironic how thousands of people have bought the inferior current model Mustang when they could have waited 2 years and bought the next model which is far superior, yet buying a current model camaro, which must come with the cost of conversion or wouldn't be an option, is a poor decision and buyers should wait for the factory RHD model in 2 years.

So you think paying 30k more for a comparable model is good value?

nstg8a · 18-01-2018, 05:41 PM

Rumour is 2018 mustang is gonna get a big price increase, the difference might not be as big as we would hope.

BENT_8 · 18-01-2018, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

So you think paying 30k more for a comparable model is good value?

If i had the money and was as staunch to the brand as you clearly are to Ford, why not.
Who are you to judge.

10 years ago people thought nothing of dropping 600k on a relic which is now worth 2/3 of that and that was considered wise investment.
When questioned it was justified because those people with that money could afford to do so.
People will pay millions for a **** hole in inner Sydney when a better place can be had an hour away for a fraction of the price.

Were not talking 19,990 drive away specials here, people with 100k for a Commodore can very much afford 90k for a camaro, doesnt mean they have rocks between their ears.

**DFB FGXR6** · 18-01-2018, 06:06 PM

I suppose the sticking point, price wise, is that 100k on a Commodore got you the pinnacle of performance and bragging rights. Similar money on a Camaro gets you a mid spec model, similar in vein the Mustang GT, except for a 30k premium. A Camaro at that level is not 30k better than a Mustang.

The thing will sell no doubt about it and for GM fans it at least gives them an option. Its just not the bargain Mustang has proven to be.

BENT_8 · 18-01-2018, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

I suppose the sticking point, price wise, is that 100k on a Commodore got you the pinnacle of performance and bragging rights. Similar money on a Camaro gets you a mid spec model, similar in vein the Mustang GT, except for a 30k premium. A Camaro at that level is not 30k better than a Mustang.

The thing will sell no doubt about it and for GM fans it at least gives them an option. Its just not the bargain Mustang has proven to be.

The Camaro 2SS is second only to the ZL1, it is not mid spec as some would have you believe, look it up.

**DFB FGXR6** · 18-01-2018, 06:14 PM

So is Mustang GT equipped with the premium pack and performance pack, the ones selling for 60K. Only the GT350 and soon GT500 are positioned higher.

nstg8a · 18-01-2018, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

So is Mustang GT equipped with the premium pack and performance pack, the ones selling for 60K. Only the GT350 and soon GT500 are positioned higher.

No,,mustanghas a weird mishmash of those I believe. One reason why direct price comparisons aren't really accurate.

Mercury Bullet · 19-01-2018, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstg8a

No,,mustanghas a weird mishmash of those I believe. One reason why direct price comparisons aren't really accurate.

Difference between a 1ss and 2ss is a convenience package and a lighting package.

Very expensive bling, mechanically identical.

Mercury Bullet · 19-01-2018, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstg8a

Rumour is 2018 mustang is gonna get a big price increase, the difference might not be as big as we would hope.

US pricing has the 2018 model at $1800 more than a 17.

For gt premium fastback.

Hardly a big increase.

Around $2k cheaper than a camaro 2ss.

jpd80 · 21-01-2018, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

US pricing has the 2018 model at $1800 more than a 17.

For gt premium fastback.

Hardly a big increase.

Around $2k cheaper than a camaro 2ss.

Interesting comparion between LHD to RHD prices, consider Aussie $ equal Canadian $

LHD Premium Mustang GT = $47,288
RHD Premium Mustang GT = $62,989 (+$15,700)

LHD 2SS Camaro =$48,595
RHD 2SS Camaro =$90,000 Approx (+$51,400)