Could Ford ever make a Territory truck? (Hilux competitor) - Page 2

Bossxr8 · 31-01-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I think an uber-lux spec Territory with different styling (perhaps badged as an LTD?) could be a goer, with the wick turned up on the 2.7 diesel.

The had a proposal to do a Territory LTD back when it was released in 2004, along with an RTV and turbo diesel, and turbo petrol. They could choose 2 of the four proposals and they chose the 2 turbo versions instead. TD was put on hold by Gorman half way through as you know.

GhiaEB · 31-01-2012, 05:13 PM

I wonder what kit they would have had in mind for a territory LTD?

Bossxr8 · 31-01-2012, 06:04 PM

Better quality Howe leather, embrodiered with LTD logo, sunroof, chrome trim etc. at a guess.

**Raptor** · 31-01-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

One Ford doesn't allow product duplication. A Territory dual cab would be nearly an exact duplication of Ranger dual cab...

Correct. So what do you think the Ranger based SUV spin-off will mean to the future of the Territory

...and without the Territory adding production volume to the Falcon as well

Road_Warrior · 31-01-2012, 06:36 PM

Although in saying that, the Territory dual cab (let's call it the Ford Expedition just for shts and giggles) will have car-like handing and smoothness without the kidney smashing antics of a body on frame pickup.

But Ford simply can't splash precious R&D funds on something that has no hope of being a volume seller.

Brazen · 31-01-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Although in saying that, the Territory dual cab (let's call it the Ford Expedition just for shts and giggles) will have car-like handing and smoothness without the kidney smashing antics of a body on frame pickup.

But Ford simply can't splash precious R&D funds on something that has no hope of being a volume seller.

Also size... The new generation of dual cabs are getting very long and would be intimidating to women to park etc. A territory dual cab with the same length but with a more versatile rear end would make a great family car during the week for mum and a family camping/fishing/Ikea delivering vehicle on the weekend.

I have started seeing Mums migrating to Tritons, Hiluxes and Rangers. A Territory Sport would blow them away for driveability. I can see dual cab recreational vehicles being eventually 1 in 5 sales in this country (up from 12%)

Offer it in diesel only, in XLT and Limited trim, 2wd and Awd.

BFZ Wagon · 31-01-2012, 08:59 PM

It's nice to dream (and why shouldn't we?) but they'd never let it happen.
But, this idea sort of reminds me of the Cadillac Escalade EXT/Chevrolet Avalanche twins. They are both huge dual cab utes ('Sport Utility trucks' for the yanks) but the rear section behind the rear seats can be folded up, window removed and seats flattened down and it turns into a longer tray ute. Really cool idea. It even has 3 removable panels that go over the rear tray.
I've only ever seen this 'convertible SUT thing' on those models though.

Shame we'll never see a 4x4 ute built here in Australia. The closest we'll ever get is the Holden/Ford ute we currently have.

Nikked · 31-01-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The had a proposal to do a Territory LTD back when it was released in 2004, along with an RTV and turbo diesel, and turbo petrol. They could choose 2 of the four proposals and they chose the 2 turbo versions instead. TD was put on hold by Gorman half way through as you know.

Turbo version was the best idea ever!

bigdude1011 · 31-01-2012, 09:32 PM

What about dual-range AWD on the current Territory? Would be something different to the Kluger and Captiva, and would open the Territory to compete with the Prado/Challenger/Pathfinder. Then again, it would probably eat into the Everest's (I'm assuming that that's what FoA will call the Ranger 4WD) category.

dkpioe · 01-02-2012, 05:42 AM

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And in come the wave of 'it can't be done' ers.

i agree if you put this on another subject, but for the territory, i give you a big LOL

Bossxr8 · 01-02-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Correct. So what do you think the Ranger based SUV spin-off will mean to the future of the Territory

...and without the Territory adding production volume to the Falcon as well

Its not a direct product duplication, the Everest would be a true off roader with low range gears, good ground clearance and a seperate chassis, like Prado. The Territory is a cross over vehicle with sedan like dynamics and limited off road ability with a monoque chassis, like Kluger (except for dynamics which it doesn't have).

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Turbo version was the best idea ever!

It was a good idea until petrol went over $1 a litre, thats when sales really dropped. It started off well and would have continued to do so if petrol stayed cheap.