Vfacts For February - Page 2

XR6_190 · 04-03-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

Ford should dump the Mondeo & bring in the US fusion (the US mid sided car). I've just traveled to the US last month & the Fusion is one very very nice car. Much better then the Mondeo.

YTD Falcon sales are up by 6.46% & commodore is down 14.54%. That has to be a good sin for Ford going forward?

Will not happen, for starters the Fusion os strictley Left Hand Drive. Secondly, if the Mondeo isn't selling in huge numbers, that won't change with the Fusion. Thirdly, the Mondeo will more than likely take over from the fusion in future generations in the US, as FORD strive for a global product line.

Also, have you driven a Mondeo, I haven't driven either, but on looks aside the Mondeo wins in my books, and as for Mondeo's 'disappointing sales' haven't Ford had supply problems with most of their European cars?

BlackLS · 04-03-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

Falcon platform is still pulling 4197 units a month, against the Commodore platform which is doing 4,184. Those quantities are still sustainable. Plus Holden will be still shifting a fair few to the middle east.

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/09/dubai-airport-clogge.html

"2,500 vehicles have been found dumped in the past four months outside Terminal III"

phillyc · 04-03-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6_190

Will not happen, for starters the Fusion os strictley Left Hand Drive. Secondly, if the Mondeo isn't selling in huge numbers, that won't change with the Fusion. Thirdly, the Mondeo will more than likely take over from the fusion in future generations in the US, as FORD strive for a global product line.

Also, have you driven a Mondeo, I haven't driven either, but on looks aside the Mondeo wins in my books, and as for Mondeo's 'disappointing sales' haven't Ford had supply problems with most of their European cars?

Ford Europe were for the last 18mths struggling for spare capacity to build the award winning range of vehicles that it sells and that meant Australia had to wait it's turn for many vehicles.

That is not the case now with many country markets down between 20 & 50%, which means that really Ford Aus should be able to get more Mondeo's etc. The excuse might have some weight for the next month or two, but after that it shouldn't.

Nikked · 04-03-2009, 06:46 PM

The falcon sales are comfortable i think, very minor change from last year. You cant hope for it to be selling much more then 3000.

But Am i correct in saing that falcon platorm cars outsold Commodore platform cars?

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Originally Posted by Kieron

The Territory is old and tired and needs a decent update, something Ford have unfortunately not done with the new model.

three things.

1. Do you realy think for have the Cash flow to do a whole new Territory.
2. It got a midlife update, to go to a whole new design would be a waste of money, the model is only what 5 years old?
3. Its sales drop looks no worse then some other cars.

SSbaby · 04-03-2009, 06:51 PM

Does anyone have Mazda's sales?

They were doing really well last month with Mazda2 and Mazda3 - they unseated Toyota in the small car segment. That's some achievement!

Dr Smith · 04-03-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_4.0

what u have to remember is that holden may not have sold lots of captivas. just like the commodore over the last 4 months, they may just be registering them. to improve the look of sales and get people buying. but its not working.

Vfacts is based on customer delivered cars I thought.

**buggerlugs** · 04-03-2009, 08:25 PM

Go the Ford Transit Bus, big improvement on last year............

Romulus · 04-03-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Holden sales down 30% more to Ford....

Yep I noticed that too. Massive sales hits for the Commodore, Statesman, Caprice, Utility, Epica etc.

Just goes to show that Australians are tough, not stupid!

crYnOid · 04-03-2009, 08:50 PM

GM sold 2,705 Pontiac G8s in the US in feb up just over 100% from 1331 sales in january. GM was down a little more than 50%. Excellent showing considering the shape of the US market.

If that trend continues the US will be a bigger market for the commodore than here...

Romulus · 04-03-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crYnOid

GM sold 2,705 Pontiac G8s in the US in feb up just over 100% from 1331 sales in january. GM was down a little more than 50%. Excellent showing considering the shape of the US market.

If that trend continues the US will be a bigger market for the commodore than here...

The question is at what price did GM move them? Almost anything will move at a cheap enough price.

crYnOid · 04-03-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TVS Super Pursuit

The question is at what price did GM move them? Almost anything will move at a cheap enough price.

0% finance for 5 years or $3000. V8s are moving much better than V6s.

Gobes32 · 04-03-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Vfacts is based on customer delivered cars I thought.

There is a rumor that employees were offered 6 month leases late last year to boost sales and balance the books, hence the 2 or 3 months in a row where they topped 5000 sales. Who knows how true it is.

Ford should honestly be happy because the way I see it we are selling more locally built cars than Holden? We are only running a skeleton shift and everything is build to order. That is much more sustainable than having 18,000 cars in a field picking daisies........

Romulus · 04-03-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

There is a rumor that employees were offered 6 month leases late last year to boost sales and balance the books, hence the 2 or 3 months in a row where they topped 5000 sales. Who knows how true it is.

Ford should honestly be happy because the way I see it we are selling more locally built cars than Holden? We are only running a skeleton shift and everything is build to order. That is much more sustainable than having 18,000 cars in a field picking daisies........

Where's that 18000 figure coming from?

Gobes32 · 04-03-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TVS Super Pursuit

Where's that 18000 figure coming from?

It was posted earlier in the thread and is the general number that is thrown around whenever one of these topics pops up. No-one but Holden knows the real figure, but if you have cars sitting in Dubai and the US gathering dust as well as xxxx amount at home, all is not well.

RATT · 04-03-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SSbaby

Does anyone have Mazda's sales?

They were doing really well last month with Mazda2 and Mazda3 - they unseated Toyota in the small car segment. That's some achievement!

Mazda
Mazda BT-50 4X2 626 424
Mazda BT-50 4X4 311 465
Mazda CX-7 195 471
Mazda CX-9 290 489
Mazda MX5 52 71
Mazda RX8 44 72
Mazda2 1,193 1,272
Mazda3 2,989 2,825
Mazda6 676 931
Mazda Total 6,376 7,022 (down 9.2%)

Gobes32 · 04-03-2009, 09:49 PM

Mazda are leading the way, wonder how they are doing globally, because they are going great guns here in Oz...........

imugli · 04-03-2009, 09:52 PM

It'll be interesting to see what sort of numbers the new Fiesta can dowhen supply comes on stream and how that will affect the 2 (and Yaris for that matter).

What may also be interesting is how it affects Ford's ability to upsell people into Focus'...

naddis01 · 04-03-2009, 09:58 PM

So would that make Mazda3 2nd in Feb to go with its first in Jan?

music189 · 04-03-2009, 10:00 PM

How could captiva sell more !!! they are offering 08 plates for 32999 drive away
they must have heaps sitting somewhere
cheap cheap

500SEC · 04-03-2009, 10:01 PM

Great to see that Focus CC sales are up, and that LTD sales have stabilised.

**russellw** · 04-03-2009, 10:27 PM

Our usual graphical representation of the data can be found HERE

Cheers
Russ

**russellw** · 04-03-2009, 11:42 PM

... and the Supplementary data is also uploaded HERE

Cheers
Russ

SpoolMan · 05-03-2009, 12:25 AM

Why cant they sell more Focus, my dad has the 2008 sedan, my mum has the 2008 hatch for $20k drive-away there a top mid sized car.

Ford Focus 853 1,310

vztrt · 05-03-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Mazda are leading the way, wonder how they are doing globally, because they are going great guns here in Oz...........

I know they made a loss in the 3rd qtr last yr when things were still OK.

Wally · 05-03-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by russellw

Our usual graphical representation of the data can be found HERE

Cheers
Russ

You've done a fine job with that thread. If you're not in marketing , you should be.

SSbaby · 05-03-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Vfacts is based on customer delivered cars I thought.

That's correct. The stats are the result of paid and delivered cars for Feb.

Bossxr8 · 05-03-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Why cant they sell more Focus, my dad has the 2008 sedan, my mum has the 2008 hatch for $20k drive-away there a top mid sized car.

Ford Focus 853 1,310

Focus sales are very up and down for some reason. They will sell heaps one month and lots less the next. Hard to work out why.

Need_a_V8 · 06-03-2009, 02:39 AM

The Fiesta is a great car, once supply sures up I really think it will outsell the Mazda2.

greenfoam · 06-03-2009, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by imugli

It'll be interesting to see what sort of numbers the new Fiesta can dowhen supply comes on stream and how that will affect the 2 (and Yaris for that matter).

What may also be interesting is how it affects Ford's ability to upsell people into Focus'...

The Fiesta will do 2000 a month if Ford can ever build enough of them, which it doesn't look like they will be able to for the rest of this year and by then the competition might have caught up somewhat. In the meantime it kinda cool having the only one in town while everyone willing to wait has there's on order with a ETA of July

RATT · 06-03-2009, 04:22 PM

Very true re Fiesta. It's been selling well and it's attracting people who normally buy a Yaris or Jazz.