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![]() I've got a single cab tray back Ute with ladder racks and I've not needed to tow a trailer with it for work purposes as I can fit everything on the racks and in the back. |
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So if the VW has been good and you can't get them then why aren't you looking at the Sprinter, same same as made in the same factory, not sure about motors but if the ambos use the Sprinter then they need to be reliable.
I've had 4 sprinters,all basically ambo spec with the first 2 manuals, first one was a 2008 315, retired to spare at 850,000kms 2019, next one was a 2012 316 same sort of mileage annually, pensioned to out west depot in 2018 and as far as I know still running all over the place. Purchased 2 more in 2018,were stripped out and sold separately when we sold the business, all fitted with alloy bull bars, safety cage behind seats and rubber mats on the cargo area and rear step/tow bar. We then fitted them out as service units with all the lights and whistles needed, only issue was we needed to keep an eye on weights when loaded to do a country service run, oils parts and usually 2 or more condenser units 100kgs each plus gas and equip. Only repairs was a set of turbos at 600,ooo kms, clutch and flywheel and shocks. Fuel when running normal between 9 to 10/100kms, big load same sort of mileage, mostly highway mileage. Always serviced at 10,000 kms, always used Cost Effective fuel products and genuine filters (we ran 99% Merc products and got a very good price on parts Tyres ( Continentals) every 90,000 to 100,000 kms My only bitch with the 2008 the lousy radio and uncomfortable drivers seat after 6 hrs of driving. Expensive??? maybe compared to Jap/asian stuff, but in the long run you get what you pay for and breakdowns are very expensive if it cost you a customer. The first one ![]() Good luck choosing one. Terry aka Tbro |
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I've worked on one or two in my time: ![]() ![]() I reckon the 1990s/early 00s old boxy banger prior to the 2006 NCV3 model redesign drove better than the 4 cylinder spec of the Melbourne metro ambulances, more throttle response, but you hardly ever see one of the old bangers around anymore. 6 cylinder one is a good though, not sure if its still made. Because they're used by our ambulance services nationwide spare parts availability is pretty good for aftermarket and genuine. Used to maintain NPT's fleet of ****box patient transporters, those guys would be running these things into the ground, have them come in with 700,000km on the clock. https://www.nptgroup.com.au/ |
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My own Trader came from the NSW Blue mountains and used only on a Christmas tree farm. Caged and tarped tray and easily converted to an open top for large stuff. Simple and tough. I see a fair few Renaults getting around here.
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Tiny sales of Vans tells me the market has made their choice, you can pound sand all you like with single cab Ute ideas, they’re just not popular anymore. |
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You can't even build and price any van on Ford's website. Parcel delivery needs means you can only really choose a van or box truck but vans in this case are just easier to live with. Last edited by Dr Smith; 04-11-2023 at 05:57 PM. |
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Pantech's as they are known everywhere else in Oz.
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This new van needs to be multi-driver capable and approachable for all employees. You can read between the lines what that means in regard to catering for all. The size, bulk and truck-like driving dynamics are just not practical in this situation.
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https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...22534477/?Cr=5 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...2535766/?Cr=32 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...21519125/?Cr=4 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...2226081/?Cr=10 A Transporter is now my recommendation after hearing too many bad stories (here and otherwhere) about the Traffic. I like that it will match the Crafter. The Traffic is in stock and ready to go at the local dealer, which would make the process easy, but I think its better hunting down the better vehicle.
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I don't know why Kia don't sell a stripped out Carnival as a Van.
While it doesn't have the height and pallet loading space of a purpose made Van. I am sure some trades could still deck out the interior and place ladders ect on top and have a better chance at getting into Car Parks for Service type work.
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I actually put 600 kg in the back of a customer's PX III Ranger Wildtrak, the thing was down on the bump stops and the nose pointing in the air. And even then, I ran out of room in the tub and the rest ended up on the back seat. No such problems with a single cab.
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Rear lift gate perfect for kitchen, fold out bed forward. The new breed backpackers must have a whole new funding structure or Australia has finally run out of affordable clapped out Mitsi L300 or EA-BF wagons.
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I saw some campers/backpackers in an FG2 Ecolpi ute with rear canopy.
I thought good choice if a bit tight still a nice cheap drive. |
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I'm pretty sure the Vito's '7G Tronic' trans is a traditional slushbox and would be my recommendation out of those two. However Transporter has a bangin' stereo for Kylie ![]() |
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Fox y have got a dozen odd transporters in Bris which are knocking on 400000 kms
They have had dsg issues but maybe found a cheap way to fix them They also have manual crafters or up till recently have done over 400000 kms Fleet drivers hard on throttle hard on brakes you know the type of steering wheel attandant |
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Victoria Police turned over their Vitos and Transporters every 40,000km, felt like I was building them then they were coming in for decommissioning and heading to the auctions not long after ![]() Ambulance Victoria kept their Sprinter ambulances for 250,000km or there abouts before they got stripped and headed out to auction. |
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You are at a busy roundabout in peak hour You have moved to the front see a gap hit the throttle and get hesitation Or worse still You forgot to switch active stop start off and as you hit the go pedal the engine cuts out Very un safe Reversing uphill driveways my dual clutch Puma hates it and makes a bang noise as if the whole set up is stuck I park on the road and walk up down drives when possible |
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Note the roundabout situation referred to vw transporters
Puma is sweet on the flat |
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It was easy to schmooze the Selespeeds in these situations, the handbrake being cable operated and having no logical input to the PCM. So you used it to gently preload the driveline and achieve a smooth reverse or take-off.
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![]() With a torque converter auto you press the accelerator or the brake and it drives properly, and it doesn't **** the bed in slow speed suburban driving between traffic lights or reversing up a driveway on an incline. I'm not sure what engineers fetish is with putting these gearboxes in everything, they should be reserved to performance cars and expensive exotics, the white van that carries 1000kg+ lurching around suburbia doesn't need to change gears in .00000000001 second ![]() Automotive engineers with their DSGs are on par with those feet people I reckon. |
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You go nowhere near the handbrake with a vw dsg
It seriously misbehaves as it gets totally confused Mind you a manual will clutch shudder reversing up inclined drives if it’s say a 70 kw three cyl turbo and hasn’t got to the boost and torque |
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Feet people? On the beers? |
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I was told yesterday that the Crafter "is the best van we've ever had". Ours is the long wheelbase, low roof model. It's so easy to drive and a world apart from what it replaced, which always felt like it was sitting on tippy toes. The Crafter corners flat and composed, the brakes are excellent (although suuuper dusty), the twin-turbo engine has no trouble hauling, and as above, I really like the normal 8-speed auto. It's now got about 97,000km on the clock and had a set of tyres and a set of rotors and pads. It's had two small warranty items, and the drivers lower mirror fell off. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things for a working vehicle.
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so does it need to be new? I guess for tax yes. But there are some decent Crafters on Carsales,
2023 Volkswagen Crafter 50 TDI410 SY1 LWB Auto MY23 $85,975* Excl. Govt. Charges 54 km Van Automatic 4cyl 2.0L Turbo Diesel Check vehicle history Dealer Used Car WA 2020 Volkswagen Crafter 50 TDI410 SY1 LWB Auto MY20 $58,990 Drive Away $56,569 Excl. Est. Govt. Charges 62,479 km Van Automatic 4cyl 2.0L Turbo Diesel Check vehicle history Dealer Used Car VIC
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The new Hiace is massive. Too big
Toyota should release a smaller van. I'd rather the previous model Hiace over the new boat |
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What are you saying?
Bring back the Lightace. What an absolute pos that was in the 90 s Bus set up 1.3 litre four **** dragging on the ground Hilarious If you think the new Hiace is big try a semi trailer or 16 pallet heavy rigid round the inner city. |
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