Australia under state sponsored cyber attack

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by zilo

I can guarantee you that they have read your post and that you will never ever work for them now.

Betcha you re upset about that?

I'm not too fussed, you know what they say don't ruin your hobby by doing it as a career

Imagine working as a 'journalist' - they tell lies, half truths, half the story and peddle bull**** but it cost them $50K in university degree to represent their woke overlords.

Joseph Goebbels would be amazed at the 21st century, they're all propagandists.

I do it for the love of it

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Is it just me or do we need to rethink our defense forces.
We have Army, Navy and Air Force but none of these can deal with recent threats which are just as crippling as a physical invasion.
It seems that in a modern world we need 2 more. One for infectious diseases and one for the cyber world. These two groups would also be relied upon to defend / protect our borders but in a different way.

And another to fight bushfires.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

And another to fight bushfires.

Yep...how to bring Australia to its knees...light a few fires during a major drought...
More effective than any BS internet attack...

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by zilo

I know of two countries that are responsible for the death of at least 500,000 infants due to medical embargoes over 10 years.
The first country reduced a 20th century sovereign state back into the stone age , to rubble....based on faked imminent nuclear threat propaganda.

The same country has dedicated misinformation and assassination departments to undermine any south American country that fails to embrace their economic systems or fails to make their natural resources such as oil, etc available to their corporations to exploit at any cost.

The second country with small dik syndrome is the best friend of the first (due to holding half the planets uranium reserves)...and needing "protection' by way of a military base in the mining region...just in case.

The second country was complicit with the first in outright murder of a population that was no threat, then the outright theft of their oil to pay for their "liberation"

My motto is never trust the first or the second and don't let them suck you into propaganda that demonizes another.

Some one supposedly hacking into a computer that is protected by overpriced blood sucking multinationals who havent done what they are paid to do is not justification for provoking a war.

It's time we wake up. We have more enemies than just China and Russia.
We are currently actively impeding African nations call for a UN enquiry into US racism and police brutality.
We are currently arming certain African countries contributing to their wars.
We are also blocking a UN resolution to investigate war crimes in the Palistines.
We are building up a list of enemies it's frightening.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

It's time we wake up. We have more enemies than just China and Russia.
We are currently actively impeding African nations call for a UN enquiry into US racism and police brutality.
We are currently arming certain African countries contributing to their wars.
We are also blocking a UN resolution to investigate war crimes in the Palistines.
We are building up a list of enemies it's frightening.

Now who's the tinfoil hat wearer?

Any proof we are arming african countries? Sounds like complete rubbish to me.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Now who's the tinfoil hat wearer?

Any proof we are arming african countries? Sounds like complete rubbish to me.

No tinfoil hats needed. There are lots of issues not covered by the main stream.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-war-torn-mali

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

No tinfoil hats needed. There are lots of issues not covered by the main stream.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-war-torn-mali

I would be interested to know what weapons we actually manufacture here.

[T3rminator]

https://australiancybersecuritymagaz...-in-australia/

Interesting timing, on the same day the PM came out with the briefing. Not that I disagree with it. Cyber security has been underfunded for a while, not just in the public sector but also private. Now to update my CV and ask for a payrise

[Peuty]

I would be interested to know what weapons we actually manufacture here.

Plenty

https://ammoterra.com/gun-from-australia

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I would be interested to know what weapons we actually manufacture here.

That's the problem...its not transparent. You have US and French weapons manufacturing companies sponsoring the Australia Strategic Policy Institute, which was a think tank set up by Howard to provide the government with recommendations on these matters. You only sponsor something if you get something out of it.

My guess is that we don't manufacture anything. We probably act as the middleman. Buy and supply, or facilitate the transfer process. But that is just a guess.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Plenty

https://ammoterra.com/gun-from-australia

Also check out the company Metal Storm based in Brisbane. They are ASX listed.

I just looked them up, it looks like they went into administration some years ago. I remember researching them when I was heavily into the stock market. They developed some pretty devastating weapons.

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Also check out the company Metal Storm based in Brisbane. They are ASX listed.

I just looked them up, it looks like they went into administration some years ago. I remember researching them when I was heavily into the stock market. They developed some pretty devastating weapons.

Yeah, a friend of mine was an engineer there for a while. They developed a gun that could fire a million rounds a minute or something crazy like that.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Plenty

https://ammoterra.com/gun-from-australia

Most look like sport shooting suppliers. I meant military weapons.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I would be interested to know what weapons we actually manufacture here.

The majority of stuff sold to the likes of Mali is obsolete/surplus and not necessarily manufactured in Aus, when a first world country upgrades most of the obsolete stuff is sold on down the line.....

In answer Thales Australia manufacture (under licence) a few firearms such as the F88/EF88 Austeyr.....

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Most look like sport shooting suppliers. I meant military weapons.

Come on mate, use your initiative.

This is the first Google result from the first company on the Ammoterra list.

http://www.lithgowarms.com/f90/

Another quick Google will send you to an NIOA page on the new Rhinemetall ammunition facility being built in Maryborough. These examples are two of many.

Far out. Talk about only hearing what you want to hear.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Come on mate, use your initiative.

This is the first Google result from the first company on the Ammoterra list.

http://www.lithgowarms.com/f90/

Another quick Google will send you to an NIOA page on the new Rhinemetall ammunition facility being built in Maryborough. These examples are two of many.

Far out. Talk about only hearing what you want to hear.

Did you think we send sports shooting rifles and bb guns to foreign armies?

Sorry I even asked.

[Peuty]

So you should be.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

That's the problem...its not transparent. You have US and French weapons manufacturing companies sponsoring the Australia Strategic Policy Institute, which was a think tank set up by Howard to provide the government with recommendations on these matters. You only sponsor something if you get something out of it.

My guess is that we don't manufacture anything. We probably act as the middleman. Buy and supply, or facilitate the transfer process. But that is just a guess.

Thales Bushmaster
Thales Hawkei

Both designed and built in Bendigo in VIC - not sure if we're selling to Mali though but there's a market opportunity there

At the end of the day the US/UK sells BILLIONS worth of weaponry to Saudi Arabia, it's no coincidence that their military is always rocking the latest American goods.

We can sell to Mali if they want to buy.

Mining company Glencore was funding local militia groups in Africa for some reason in the recent past.

[DJR-351]

Posted for interests sake

https://www.defence.gov.au/FOI/Docs/...0_Document.pdf

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Yeah, a friend of mine was an engineer there for a while. They developed a gun that could fire a million rounds a minute or something crazy like that.

Ambush weapon that needed so much ammunition it was impractical to even set up for use on a target.

Imagine the logistics of getting 1.6 million 9mm rounds for a minutes work ?

Most would be wasted too.

[Peuty]

No doubt. Impressive proof of concept though.

[T3rminator]

Wow...this recruitment went under the radar didn't it?



Is this the same lady that was illegally separating brown children from their parents at the Mexican border?



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-security.html

[Citroënbender]

Trustworthiness pretty low IMO.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Wow...this recruitment went under the radar didn't it?



Is this the same lady that was illegally separating brown children from their parents at the Mexican border?



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-security.html

Good choice. She has the qualifications and experience to be useful in the role she was hired for. Which doesn't often happen with our government hires.

[George V]

So,

We will be buying lots and lots of US communication gear?

[T3rminator]

There are really only 3 players in the 5G space, Huawei, Nokia and Ericsson. None are US, but the US back Nokia and Ericsson. I suspect the US will see that they can partake in the Nokia and Ericsson builds. Funny thing is, Nokia and Ericsson will have to pay royalties to Huawei as they hold most of the patents. The value of patents are going through the court system now.

Google "Snowden Cisco". NSA/CIA have been installing backdoors in Cisco gears for years. Got so bad Cisco had to put fake addresses on shipments that were destined for overseas customers.

UK are on the verge of approving a $400m Huawei factory in Cambridge. US have kicked up a stink so its going through another final round of review lol. If you can get British nationals in there researching, developing and building the gears...why not? Jobs for the British, and they can make sure the builds are secure. Doesn't make sense to knock it back, other than economic and technology warfare. Huawei Australia have said the AU policy has cost up to an estimated 1500 Australian jobs. Shame.

Anyone that knows IT, will know you can segment your network, then monitor and restrict where the traffic goes. We could have managed the risk, which is what the UK is arguing, rather than banning the company altogether. So I don't buy the "security concern" story. Think it has more to do with $$$.

Awarding Australia's Covid Safe app data storage to Amazon, over 2 qualified Australian based companies, is all starting to make sense now isn't it?

[George V]

Removed at OP request

[T3rminator]

Wow the POMS approved it. Didn't see that coming.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/huaw...e-warning.html

[Bossxr8]

Got to love Huawei saying they are independent from the CCP

[T3rminator]

O oh....Ericsson has been implicated now. Time to get on the Nokia shares .



https://www.theage.com.au/national/c...02-p558g2.html



The "list" has been kept secret since 1999. So they watched us install these equipment and didn't tell us, thanks "friend".