xy gt-ho phase 3 $400,000

[Ex-Pursuit XF]

Got that right the GT-HO's are becoming a damn rare species.. if someone buys one of them & turns ir into a custom i will have to kill them... out:

[GT-E]

I bought a RT E48 bathurst Charger in 1988 for $3000 and sold it 3 months later for $9500.
I saw it sold last year for $60,000 fully restored.
One of the best cars I ever owned, I just could not afford it on 1st year apprentice wages.

[rushing on acid]

all these idiots with these ex bathurst specials are seriously a bunch of tossers. they **** me up the wall. they are the ones that are driving the price up on those cars (gt, gt-ho 327 350 monaro 6 pack charger etc) which in turn is driving the price up of the stockies ( falcon/fairmont 6cyl monaro etc) it sucks and i hate it because it makes it less affordable for someone who wants a nice old fairmont to leave standard and cruise around in.

[mr_efxr]

Rather buy a Lamboghini Gallardo for that sort of money. Much much more fun, class, etc.

[MO]

Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

In your opinion there getting ripped off (it's worth what someone is prepared to pay) I wouldnt pay but the market set's the $value. For someone that can afford $400,000 on a muscle car im sure than can afford the fuel to run it lol. With things such as octane boost flash lube etc availaible I cant see a problem.

I don't disagree with the market forces of your post......what I do disagree with is that it is SO totally over inflated worth.

Put it this way a Maybach is nice but I cant see almost a Million in its value for what you are getting.

After all they are all just a means of transport and no I would not drive a small car I like my mid range XR8's and utes.

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by Melz

I wonder how one would go about getting insurance on such a car?

I'd put my money on Shannons. When I was down there last week they seemed to know a bit about it.

I think a lot of people are missing the point. Hardly any of these are being bought to drive (the black phase 3 clearly being an exception). They are an investment. I wouldn't be getting in on it now, it's not going to last for ever. But then again $200,000 seemed rediculous a few months ago. Anyone who bought any XR-XB GT pre 2002 is laughing. And everyone who sold one before then is kicking themselves.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by ZapXR6T

I bought a RT E48 bathurst Charger in 1988 for $3000 and sold it 3 months later for $9500.
.

Never heard of a bathurst E-48.
The bathurst cars were E-38 and E-49.
The E-37 and E-48 were lessor models.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I'd put my money on Shannons. When I was down there last week they seemed to know a bit about it.

I think a lot of people are missing the point. Hardly any of these are being bought to drive (the black phase 3 clearly being an exception). They are an investment. I wouldn't be getting in on it now, it's not going to last for ever. But then again $200,000 seemed rediculous a few months ago. Anyone who bought any XR-XB GT pre 2002 is laughing. And everyone who sold one before then is kicking themselves.

Firstly, yes Shannons would be a good start. I recently tried to talk to Vigil about mine, they wouldn't insure the car for what I think it will be worth (my estimate of 100k when complete). Specially when the same model and body style car sells for nearly 50k and needs a full resto.....Go figure. I think they need to update their market values a tad. They asked if it was an RPO 83, I said no, then he told me to call Shannons. Not much of a company hey (Vigil)?

The fact that a lot of these cars are disappearing into collectors garages is a sad fact of life, sure they are being kept well etc, but they aren't getting out to be appreciated. And being seen and heard is what will keep the passion alive long after our generations are gone...

[Ultimate]

Well a true beauty like the one mention requires a large figure of cash.

[AUIII XR8 MAN]

That a lot $$$. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

[davro_xr6]

Far out - but in this day in age, pending on condition, well worth it... Phase 3 is like the ultimate in Aussie muscle!!
My brother has a Datsun 120Y in pretty good nic - he's the second owner (it was his first car) and its done 85,000klms... Wonder if he could get any more than $200 for it?? LOL...

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by mr_efxr

Rather buy a Lamboghini Gallardo for that sort of money. Much much more fun, class, etc.

Anyone who can afford these $$ for a GT would more than likely already have a garage full of exotics to play with.
If it were me i would take a Ford "GT" 06 model over a HO anyday.

[Donny]

Personally I agree, either a ford GT or a Yummy Mummy Corvette Z06!!!
Speaking of Ford GT's, does anyone know what they are worth here? or the replica GT40's? If some person offers me the right $$ for my GT, it's History...

[AFPGS]

Originally Posted by The Monty

Wow. Wonder what the T3 will be worth in 35 years?

2K for one if it's still got all it's plastic bits intact.

[Tony xa]

With the prices going the way they are on Gts one day I will have to return mine to original but this will not happen any time soon .From here on I am going to stay away from special build cars eg Gt etc and only use base model cars so I never have to worry what I am doing to its value by modifing it .

I know this is harsh and I understand where everyone comes from but in my eyes they were still a falcon with factory mods for speed anyone can build something better now .But like I said I do understand why people are passinate about them and thankful that some will preserve history so please noone get affended .

[Donny]

I totally agree with your interpretation Tony. The purists make it hard to personalise your car, make it sound like you are committing sacrelidge if you mod a GT. Have even seen some of them bagging other cars for sale. I like my cars to suit ME, thats why I will get out of mine as soon as someone offers the right $$. At least with somthin newer, I also wont have issues with parts, and can do what I want with it.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by AFPGS

2K for one if it's still got all it's plastic bits intact.

Stop being so generous!

[mik]

your all entitled to your opinions about the ho`s, some of us grew up with them have sat in them driven them, watched them race when the the racing was pure desperation and hard yakka moreso than todays soft muscle cars (no disrespect intended) i still love todays modern muscle cars but the oldies had a character of their own and if i had a spare 400k floatin around i would`nt think twice about it

[nb_351]

Originally Posted by 1970galaxie

That can't be right because the one mentioned at the beginning of the thread is the only black phase 3 made.

unless it was that black bill bourke xw with the k code big block in it? the only genuine k code 4 door sedan in the world...
they may have mistaked it... not hard to do to the untrained eye...
750 is a bit steep... sos anything 1000% of the original price even...
imagine paying 500 odd grand for a f6 in 30 years time?
they wont be around or useable by then... theyll fall apart...

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by nb_351

unless it was that black bill bourke xw with the k code big block in it? the only genuine k code 4 door sedan in the world...
they may have mistaked it... not hard to do to the untrained eye...
750 is a bit steep... sos anything 1000% of the original price even...
imagine paying 500 odd grand for a f6 in 30 years time?
they wont be around or useable by then... theyll fall apart...

Sorry dude, you got most of it wrong...
The Black XYGTHO Phase 3 that recently sold went for approx 400k.
The bill bourke XW GT was just a 1969 XWGT T code windsor, that got sent to the states and fitted with a 428 big block.
A K code falcon was a std 351 2V falcon motor...

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by MO

I don't disagree with the market forces of your post......what I do disagree with is that it is SO totally over inflated worth.

Nope. If there are 5 HO's for sale and 5 people willing to pay 250K for them, then thats what they are worth. If I was selling one I wouldnt turn around to them and say, no, they are only worth 25K so give me that! :yeees:

If it means people who dont have this sort of money to buy one today will miss out, well, sorry but thats how it goes. I wont be owning one as I missed the boat..........or havnt won tatts yet. (twice)



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[chich]

Originally Posted by naughts

I Heard a black phase three that sold for $750,000. Yes 750k

Anyone prepared to spend that sort of money on an Australian muscle car has rocks in his head. Fully restored Gullwings sell for $600K and practically new F40s swap hands for around $800K..

$750K for a Falcon... :

[mik]

Originally Posted by chich

Anyone prepared to spend that sort of money on an Australian muscle car has rocks in his head. Fully restored Gullwings sell for $600K and practically new F40s swap hands for around $800K..

$750K for a Falcon... :

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[chich]

Originally Posted by mik

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Beauty is one thing, stupidity is another..

[Chris]

its a lot of BS i reckon.................

I have seen in person a phase 3 that was written off, engine destroyed in the crash (block ripped apart) etc.

Car was rebuilt, amazingly with all numbers matching. I wonder how all these people with more money than sense would react if they knew that more than half of the p3's are mock ups and re builds of wrecked cars??

Christ, I even know of parts being made OS for them, and being passed off as n.o.s items.

I would pay 50k for a "phase 3", because as most people will be aware, its just an XY, and the seat you would be sitting in is more than likely the base out of a 500 or something, the dash is a re-pro, the rims are a copy, etc.

400k is a mighty big gamble...........................

[Chris]

Originally Posted by chich

Beauty is one thing, stupidity is another..

Amen dude, just read your post..............

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by chich

Beauty is one thing, stupidity is another..

for the price the falcons are way better value then mustangs....just because it is from oz doesnt mean it shouldnt be worth what people are willing to pay for it.....the gt-ho was said to be the most powerful four door production car of its time, it won many bathursts and it looks awsome...if i had the money i would deffinently buy it......i remember reading a comparison of a mustang, monaro and nissan 350z and the mustang being 3 times as much, was slower than a monaro....thats over priced if you ask me...falcons are great value for the price.....especially the ba- bfs they looks great, have great ride and hadling and sound great

[xbcool]

Originally Posted by xagt_coupe

Personally I agree, either a ford GT or a Yummy Mummy Corvette Z06!!!
Speaking of Ford GT's, does anyone know what they are worth here? or the replica GT40's? If some person offers me the right $$ for my GT, it's History...

how much? :

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by Boss 290

the gt-ho was said to be the most powerful four door production car of its time,

it was, and was the worlds fastest untill 1996, : 25 years is an enormous effort...

[XR8putts]

For those that mock/question the T3.

Only 3 T3 TL50s were ever made..

(and I may be wrong on this; but wern't there only 500 T3 in total?)