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Sort of related question: how does the Ranger fare if the new Govco fuel efficiency standards bill passes? Does Ford cop a fine for every one sold? Do they pack up shop being so reliant on one model? Or have Ford got a really good PHEV version on the way that will keep them on top past 2029?
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They'd just need to change up the offering for the Australian market, no more slapping a tiny diesel engine in it and calling it a day, they need to put a bit of effort in if those laws make it through parliament. Because they've already done the background work it's not a threat to Ford, it's just a kick in the *** that they need to do better than put all their eggs in the Ranger's tub. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 13-03-2024 at 12:57 PM. |
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Thanks Franco it looks like they will be OK. If Bronco is on same platform (or Bronco Sport?) just bring that here and go square and American (build it in Thailand if you want) and bring the hybrid, Ford will have sales across the range a bit more.
I do wonder if hybrid will even be enough though, as I checked current RAV4 hybrid with its sub 5L/100km and it will not pass the CO2 level requirements by 2029.
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Who here remembers in 1985 when suddenly legislation was introduced that we couldn't make cars run on leaded fuel anymore and they all had to be unleaded from that date forward? I don't because I wasn't born yet you old bastards Maybe from 2029 onwards, no more unleaded, everything becomes E85 and then existing fleet is retrofitted like they did with leaded fuel cars. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 13-03-2024 at 04:53 PM. |
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I just had a thought, what if for a month the engineers at Ford Aust took over sales and marketing and product planning and the sales team were given a month off...what would we get.... |
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Curious to how the Vfacts figures from 2023/2024 compare with 2013/2014 with the model breakdowns
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If you click on the different years under "All VFACTS articles" it will list the articles within each year, although you don't always get full brand, top 10 numbers. EG. March 2013: Top 10 Sellers for March: Mazda3 3786 Toyota Corolla 3512 Toyota HiLux 3127 Hyundai i30 2595 Nissan Navara 2499 Holdan Cruze 2335 Toyota Camry 1916 Mazda CX-5 1830 Ford Ranger 1685 Nissan Pulsar 1644 VFACTS sales March 2013: Brand Sales Movement % Toyota 18,653 1.0 Mazda 9,112 -2.5 Nissan 8,408 1.2 Hyundai 8,402 7.6 Holden 8,283 -18.8 Ford 6,434 -13.7 Mitsubishi 5,147 -14.3 Volkswagen4,299 -4.1 Subaru 4,219 5.4 Honda 3,897 Top 10 selling brands for 2013 Brand Sales Variance % Toyota 214,630 -1.6 Holden 112,059 -2.3 Mazda 103,144 -0.7 Hyundai 97,006 6.0 Ford 87,236 -3.5 Nissan 76,733 -3.8 Mitsubishi 71,528 21.5 Volkswagen 54,829 0.1 Subaru 40,200 0.0 Honda 39,258 9.6 Top 10 selling models for 2013 Model Sales Toyota Corolla 43,498 Mazda3 42,082 Toyota HiLux 39,931 Hyundai i30 30,582 Holden Commodore 27,766 Toyota Camry 24,860 Mitsubishi Triton 24,512 Holden Cruze 24,421 Nissan Navara 24,108 Ford Ranger 21,752 Top 10 selling brands March 2014 Rank Brand Sales % Variation 1 Toyota 18,275 -2.0 2 Holden 9851 18.9 3 Mazda 9203 1.0 5 Hyundai 8606 2.4 4 Ford 7037 9.4 6 Nissan 6014 -28.5 7 Mitsubishi 5435 5.5 8 Volkswagen 4613 7.3 9 Subaru 3812 -9.6 10 Kia 2762 4.5 Top 10 selling models March 2014 Rank Model Sales 1 Toyota Corolla 4086 2 Mazda3 3587 3 Toyota HiLux 3105 4 Holden Commodore 2967 5 Hyundai i30 2767 6 Ford Ranger 2300 7 Toyota Camry 2085 8 Mazda CX-5 1932 9 Toyota RAV4 1888 10 Toyota Prado 1719 Top 10 selling brands for 2014 Brand Sales Variation % Toyota 203,501 -5.2 Holden 106,092 -5.3 Mazda 100,704 -2.4 Hyundai 100,011 3.1 Ford 79,703 -8.6 Mitsubishi 68,637 -4.0 Nissan 66,025 -14.0 Volkswagen 54,801 -0.2 Subaru 40,502 0.8 Honda 32,998 -15.9 Top 10 selling models for 2014 Model Sales Toyota Corolla 43,735 Mazda3 43,313 Toyota HiLux 38,126 Hyundai i30 31,505 Holden Commodore 30,203 Ford Ranger 26,619 Mitsubishi Triton 24,256 Toyota Camry 22,044 Mazda CX-5 21,571 Volkswagen Golf 19,178 Last edited by Dr Smith; 14-03-2024 at 05:49 PM. |
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it’s just sitting there waiting to be activated. It’s much easier to develop a hybrid from a PHEV than go the other way but I suspect that Europe/ Euro 6 stage whatever and tightening emissions will bring it to the table long before 2028. Watch for Eco protesters to start directly targeting diesel Utes and SUVs as the enemy of the planet. They don’t care as much about V8/Turbo Falcon & Commodore any more because they’re “gone”. |
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Actually, interest in Bronco is starting to fall away in the US, seems like everyone that wanted a Bronco has one now and the remaining sales are regular buyers looking for one at a good price or small cash incentive. Higher interest rates are slowing up the desire to buy a premium lifestyle vehicles. I don’t think Ford AUS will really consider Bronco for Australia, they see it as simply trading a good easy Everest sale, something it doesn’t have to do without asking those buyers to pay $30,000 more to get the RHD bit done, few will want it over say, a big honkin F150…. Last edited by jpd80; 14-03-2024 at 07:23 PM. |
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Plenty of people spend big coin on 4wd wagons, no reason why they wouldn't on an offroad focused Everest.
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The Wrangler, specifically the Rubicon, sets the benchmark for hardcore production offroaders.
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We brought up the CX60 in a previous Vfacts, here's a news update on it's suspension and transmission tune:
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...suspension-fix
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I find it odd that Mazda thought it was OK to release these vehicles considering part of their aim with the new rwd-biased platform for it's CX-x0 models was to go upmarket in perception and obviously price. Ride quality and powertrain smoothness/quietness are just given requirements in this area. |
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As far as their sketchy in house developed transmission is, typical engineers trying to reinvent the wheel and fix something there's no problems with, should have just used the 8sp ZF box and be done with it. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 29-03-2024 at 11:04 AM. |
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It's no different than Toyota with the current Corolla, they put a torque converter in a CVT gearbox to try to make it feel more like a normal gearbox. A whole bunch of early ones had to be recalled and the gearbox replaced.
They are still not great, and I reckon the previous one had a smoother box. https://www.clintonstoyota.com.au/ne...-cvt-assembly/
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I don't remember Ford offering fixes on the 10 speed auto changes on the previous ranger. I know that was constantly bagged by the reviewers.
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that’s been progressively scaled back because Euro brands didn’t launch as expected. We’re possibly looking at a replacement for the CX-7 later this year and the CX-60 caught my eye but honestly, all we need is the CX-8 and the location of the Cx-60 timing belt worries me. The CX-60 reminds me of a misbegotten BMW with equally costly post warranty issues. I can’t take the chance, so that’s a no from me. |
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Geez JPD80 can’t you get a Ford SUV?
Oh that’s right Ford don’t sell any in Aus What a screwed up coy. Don’t sell products that Ford enthusiasts would buy and introduce to ten other people I saw a Europcar rental Everest yesterday mmmm FOA selling its premium model ( well 1 of 3) to rental coys now. |
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Did these people not test drive the mazda before buying it? Seems odd to complain about the ride and shift quality,something that should have been picked up on a test drive of the vehicle.
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29-03-2024, 01:32 PM | #58 | |||
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In retrospect the ND MX-5 was really the first symptom of this, no attention paid to steering calibration at all, in a car that is meant to be all about the handling. Really big backwards step over the NC in all areas except kerb weight. For what Mazda are charging it's hard not to justify stretching to a BMW.
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