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Old 10-02-2011, 08:49 PM   #31
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:59 PM   #32
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but copyright laws are copyright laws!

How many times does it have to be explained?!
Nobody is questioning the laws here, just the spirit in which it is being applied...

"Unspecified Damages", I will be waiting with baited breath to hear what they are proven to be....
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:11 PM   #33
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Rome ... Italy..... call it the FCL , Ferrari-CL , roman numerals for 150 *shrugs*
Trademark that and sell it to Ferrari!
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:50 PM   #34
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Mate, I'm sure Mr Mulally himself isn't that fussed about it (heck, he might even enjoy the 'comparison'), but copyright laws are copyright laws!

How many times does it have to be explained?!

Then i go back to my previous post... why didnt Ford sue Fokker for the F100?
Yes copyright laws are copyright laws... but no one is compelling Ford to sue.
The "name" is copyrighted and other companies have sued other companies because of the use of a name of a product which has little to no bearing on the actual item.

McDonalds are famous for sueing people for using the McDonalds name and they werent even running a burger business.

Virgin Atlantic recently tried to sue someone here in Australia who had an internet business name with the word VIRGIN in it. He ran a porno site surprisingly!

So again, why in this particular case sue Ferrari when clearly in the past the someone else used one of their copyrighted name? Sour grapes?
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Old 11-02-2011, 01:23 AM   #35
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Ferrari should just change the name as said.
Call it the RS 150 for Risorgimento.


Ok maybe not.
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:46 AM   #36
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Yeah I'm still amazed at how people don't get it. A car is a car, even when the differences are obvious. If somebody wants to bring out a line of luggage called "Corvette," it's not the same as if Toyota was to bring out a minivan called Corvette. (Assuming nobody else was manufacturing luggage with that name), as long as it wasn't made to look like it was licensed merchandise, I don't think it would be a big deal. I would assume there would be bucket loads of products out there, non car-related, with names like Falcon and Mustang. That is fine. But when you try to call a new car a Falcon or Mustang, then it's a breach of copyright. If you are still going to complain because you are too ignorant to understand it, go and learn about copyrights and trademark laws.
example: Mustang Cruiser
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:45 AM   #37
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Word just in, Ferrari have changed the name to Ferrari F150th Italia.
Will this be enough difference for Ford? You would think so.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...kly-to-lawsuit
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I remember hearing a while back that Porsche were originally going to call the 911 the 901, but Peugot had trademarked 3 numbered model names with a '0' in the middle. If that is true then surely this direct violation is a no-brainer and Ford will win. FPV8U's suggestion of F1-150 would be a better way to go I reckon.
Just to expand on this....

Porsche did plan to market the 911 as the 901, but as you pointed out Peugeot had already trademarked the "x0x" model names. So the 901 became the 911 and the rest is history....

But! Porsche did introduce the 907, 908 and the 909 and these where deemed to be ok because they where pure racing cars which were not sold for road use, so not competing with any road-going Peugeot.

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Old 11-02-2011, 08:45 AM   #39
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Ferrari and Ford have a history. I'm not surprised they've unleashed the lawyers
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Then i go back to my previous post... why didnt Ford sue Fokker for the F100?
Yes copyright laws are copyright laws... but no one is compelling Ford to sue.
The "name" is copyrighted and other companies have sued other companies because of the use of a name of a product which has little to no bearing on the actual item.

McDonalds are famous for sueing people for using the McDonalds name and they werent even running a burger business.

Virgin Atlantic recently tried to sue someone here in Australia who had an internet business name with the word VIRGIN in it. He ran a porno site surprisingly!

So again, why in this particular case sue Ferrari when clearly in the past the someone else used one of their copyrighted name? Sour grapes?
should chev sue ford??
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should chev sue ford??
G6, G8..
Should Ford sue GM and Suzuki? (Sierra)
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Exactly, where does it stop?

How about we throw this in the equation... China.
Its breached copyright laws how many 1000s of times now?
China has built and copyied without licence so many items its not funny.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:16 AM   #43
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Do Ferrari make cars?? It must be a sideline to their baseball cap business.
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They didn't sue anybody. Ford were protecting a trademark they had and sent a nasty letter to Ferrari reminding them. Ferrari tweaked their name, so it wasn't breaching the trademark and problem solved.

All very standard stuff and done hundreds if not thousands of times a day around the world by companies big and small.

This didn't get past a couple of letters and maybe a phone call. Nobody sued anybody and everyone still plays golf together. Jeez talk about a beatup.

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Old 11-02-2011, 11:07 AM   #45
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Maybe the Italians are not unlike the majority of Americans themselves and live in their own little world...

Maybe they didn't even know the F-150 truck existed ?
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:51 AM   #46
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Yeah I'm still amazed at how people don't get it. A car is a car, even when the differences are obvious. If somebody wants to bring out a line of luggage called "Corvette," it's not the same as if Toyota was to bring out a minivan called Corvette.
You are confusing copyright and trademark.
a trademark only covers products of similar use and copyright covers anything you can get the courts to agree is a violation.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:05 PM   #47
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I already have a ferrari F150, but I had to make it myself. Still needs tweaking.

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Old 11-02-2011, 12:17 PM   #48
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Above pic:
That was Ford telling Ferrari we already have an F-150.
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I already have a ferrari F150, but I had to make it myself. Still needs tweaking.

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if ford were still in f1 in 2007, would ferrari have been happy if the racing car was called the f40 in reference to the ford cosworth motor being introduced 40 years before

probably not - but that wouldn't be petty would it. it would be expected. it seems only ford can be petty, certainly not ferrari
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:33 PM   #51
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I already have a ferrari F150, but I had to make it myself. Still needs tweaking.

That is the world's luckiest moped.

As a side note, the Porsche 901 fun fact is one of the tidbits displayed on the Forza 3 loading screens.
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