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Old 07-03-2019, 12:23 PM   #31
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Look at the bone structure... that is ridiculous. The skull on #40 is clearly the skull of an adult male. That's without even mentioning the width of shoulders, etc.
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Old 13-03-2019, 09:31 PM   #32
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This bloke would go alright...

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And the left dictate to us, to accept this as normal
Looks more like an Orc from Warcraft
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Old 14-03-2019, 12:53 PM   #33
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Ok I get that OP has an issue with a potential unfair advantage in sport, but some of the comments in this thread are unacceptable.

Trans people are people.

Think before you post.
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Old 16-03-2019, 10:02 AM   #34
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They need to have a separate category 'Transgender Olympics', like they have with special olympics. Problem solved
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Old 16-03-2019, 09:30 PM   #35
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i don,t agree with allowing trans to compete, its just another way social engineering is weakens our society. but, i did here that testosterone testing might come in.
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An Alpha male Lion (could be any species)

Dominated the area for ten years, half-blind in one eye, snout and surrounding areas covered in battle scars only to be dethroned by a young-buck that's most likely his great great great great grandson.....limps away and dies within weeks under the shade of a lone tree - he's done his job.

Now imagine a transgender vegan SoyBoy Lion....everything around it gets lazy and becomes weak.
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Old 17-03-2019, 08:20 AM   #37
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An Alpha male Lion (could be any species)

Dominated the area for ten years, half-blind in one eye, snout and surrounding areas covered in battle scars only to be dethroned by a young-buck that's most likely his great great great great grandson.....limps away and dies within weeks under the shade of a lone tree - he's done his job.

Now imagine a transgender vegan SoyBoy Lion....everything around it gets lazy and becomes weak.
You can't cheat mother nature.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:44 AM   #38
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British Olympians slam transgender weightlifter after she breaks four records....

https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/olympi...pic-duo_010519
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Ok I get that OP has an issue with a potential unfair advantage in sport, but some of the comments in this thread are unacceptable.

Trans people are people.

Think before you post.
Agree, too many people being wound up by talkback radio and The Daily Telegraph about issues that are either non-existent or of no real concern.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:33 AM   #40
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IMHO: TransGender is a socioemotional situation. (I do not mean this to be dismissive)





Sport should be down to Science, not how the athlete identifies



A test should be developed, and then that rule consistently applied
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:24 PM   #41
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Meh...
I dont see an issue. So many other parts of our society are being "equalised" for opportunity so why segregate sport. You wanna compete - go ahead.
Make mixed sports an equal opportunity. Why segregate only when it "suits", and ask for equality when it suits.
Mix it up people ..... and may the best person / man / female / trans / Gender fluid / LGBTQUTRDSETYVWXYZ win !!!
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:27 PM   #42
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I dont see an issue. So many other parts of our society are being "equalised" for opportunity so why segregate sport. You wanna compete - go ahead.
Make mixed sports an equal opportunity. Why segregate only when it "suits", and ask for equality when it suits.
Mix it up people ..... and may the best person / man / female / trans / Gender fluid / LGBTQUTRDSETYVWXYZ win !!!
so the lady's get equal left's with their right's..

not a fan of this PC crap..
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South African transgender athlete, Caster Semenya, loses right to compete as a female.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48102479

Hoooray!!!

But this will drag on in the courts until he/she/it/the thing get's it's way.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:55 PM   #44
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South African transgender athlete, Caster Semenya, loses right to compete as a female.
Educate yourself Caster Semenya is not transgender, google intersex!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/you-ca.../LE1817H003S00



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https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48102479

Hoooray!!!

But this will drag on in the courts until he/she/it/the thing get's it's way.

Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is, to either group?
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Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is, to either group?
Can you understand how offensive it must be to a biological female, to have to compete against an intersex or MtF transsexual athlete?
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Can you understand how offensive it must be to a biological female, to have to compete against an intersex or MtF transsexual athlete?
No I am not; a biological female, intersex, MtF transsexual(sic) or a snowflake.

Which are you?
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Google irony... your reply is dripping in it.
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This bloke would go alright...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZtOz-KKMhI

And the left dictate to us, to accept this as normal
Lets take it outside....

'Sorry, I don't hit women'....
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I notice you don't get too many sheilas "transitioning" into blokes and trying their hand at male sports.
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I notice you don't get too many sheilas "transitioning" into blokes and trying their hand at male sports.
Then they would be a natural disadvantage. Oh, hang on a sec....
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Google irony... your reply is dripping in it.
Google satire.....

I tried logic, pointing out the fact the article in the OP was BS but no one is interested.

So many snowflakes in this thread being triggered by something that; has not happened, they have little understanding of and has zero effect on them.
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Well, not really. Logic dictates looking at all the available evidence. Even with the IOC further lowering the testosterone limit, 1 year of hormone lowering is insufficient. Research shows significant musculature advantages remain for even 3 years post-hormone lowering treatment.

And the hypocrisy is that when the IAAF first introduced testosterone limits for intersex/trans athletes, the CAS overturned their decision arguing the IAAF had insufficient scientific basis to do so. But the IOC, in allowing intersex/trans athletes, relied on virtually no science, and instead pushed it through on human rights grounds.

AFAIK, competing in sport professionally is not a human right.
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Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is
Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. Which group do you identify yourself as? Transgender or intersex?
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https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/olympi...pic-duo_010519
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Well, not really. Logic dictates looking at all the available evidence. Even with the IOC further lowering the testosterone limit, 1 year of hormone lowering is insufficient. Research shows significant musculature advantages remain for even 3 years post-hormone lowering treatment.

And the hypocrisy is that when the IAAF first introduced testosterone limits for intersex/trans athletes, the CAS overturned their decision arguing the IAAF had insufficient scientific basis to do so. But the IOC, in allowing intersex/trans athletes, relied on virtually no science, and instead pushed it through on human rights grounds.

AFAIK, competing in sport professionally is not a human right.
Does your evidence run to the long list of transgender athletes about to descend on the next Olympics and steal all the medals?

Just the top ten maybe?

Can you name one?......
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Does your evidence run to the long list of transgender athletes about to descend on the next Olympics and steal all the medals?
Why should it? Do you normally wait for something bad to happen before you consider precautions?
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Why should it? Do you normally wait for something bad to happen before you consider precautions?
No you are correct, consider me triggered!

But aren't the hard right always telling us we should not be pandering to minorities?

The Trans community is tiny; the number of Trans athletes is even tinier!
The number of Trans athletes that could possibly compete at Olympic level must be so small that’s why no one can find any.

Am I not pandering to a non-existent minority by paying any attention to them?
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Guessing by the fact that you didn't answer my question, you don't belong to either groups.

In other words, just another social justice warrior looking for a reason to be offended on behalf of others.
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The Trans community is tiny; the number of Trans athletes is even tinier!
The number of Trans athletes that could possibly compete at Olympic level must be so small that’s why no one can find any.

Am I not pandering to a non-existent minority by paying any attention to them?
Look at the bigger picture. It’s not just about them competing at Olympic level.
It contrasts with feminism and the concept/myth of male privilege.
It’s fooling society that this mental illness is normal, and standby for anyone who dare to disagree on a public level.
The whole concept is a farce and needs to be knocked on the head.

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