Record-breaking petrol prices

[LG]

Originally Posted by nang3

anyone know the percentage that the govt takes as tax as well ??? i think that should definitely be lowered before the price gets too high !!

Herald Sun, said something like out of an $70-80 fuel bill, the Government takes about $35 dollars.

Car pooling and more public transport from now on, i think.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Actually as of 3 August 2005, oil consumption in China is 6% up on last year's levels to 2.6 million barrels per day, however the growth is not as rapid as it was in the first half of the year.

I grant that the US has the highest demand, however US demand appears to have been some what stable over the last few years, unlike the rapid growth of demand from China and India.

Yes, well put.

However, we should consider that growth in China's oil demand was around 15% during 2004 - the recent figures put them in line with global demand growth. I believe current oil consumption in China is 3million bpd compared with US consumption at 11 million bpd... estimates say chinese demand will topple the US in around 2030 but frankly i doubt the planet has got another 25 years of oil left in her.

Rapid growth always expected in a developing nation... but surely it's their right to do so?? Developed countires like ourselves have had it pretty good so far but now there's another billion mouths to feed from the 81 million barrels a day of global production... surely we cant blame them for taking "our" oil??

[parawolf]

Man i'm so glad that I tram to work these days. $5.50 a day in transport. I think the last time I put $20 of fuel in my BA XR6 was about 2 weeks ago.

I really should sell that car because i'm hemorraging repayments for a car I just don't friggen use.

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

surely we cant blame them for taking "our" oil??

Yes. Im an only child, and I dont share well.

[Casper]

Public Transport, I love it.
Paying $1.30l in fuel to sit in peak hour traffic waiting for some idiot to eventually hit my car in a rush of idiocy, then getting to work and paying $11 a day for the privledge of parking in a nonsecure carpark only to come out of work dreading the day my car is damaged or simply gone. Then jump in and enjoy another hour heading home, in peak hour, once again waiting for the inevitable smash...or worse.
Price of fuel per month: $400
Price of parking per month: $260
Wear and tear....Priceless!
Total: $660 (yes, thats a nice chunk of change per month)

Comparing that to publc transport.. I leave home about 10 minutes earlier and get back about 15 minutes later.. cost NIL
I spend $148 a month on a 2 zone monthly ticket and might go through $30 in fuel getting to and from the station...if I drive rather then get dropped off.
Sit on the train, read a book or the paper and glance up at the inevitable traffic snarls and fender benders each morning. No stress, no fuss.
Total Cost $178 a month... I know people who spend that on grog on a Sat night.

The difference is that, on the weekends, I get to blow $20 or $30 in fuel just having fun in my car and the kms stay off the odo.

The price of fuel sucks I'll agree... but I guess it hurts some a lot more than me.

[TURBO_GHIA]

well im just hopeing i get this new job im going for ,comes with car all expenses payed for

[five 7]

Don't you guys have your own oil ? we are paying $1.44 91 $1.48 96 here in nz

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by Casper

The difference is that, on the weekends, I get to blow $20 or $30 in fuel just having fun in my car and the kms stay off the odo.

Yeah - love that... but even then I don't do that either because I take XRCHIK's XR8 ute out and have a ball on Novated Lease petrol pricing $1.28 less 42%!! wooo!

[Pilch]

Originally Posted by nat_daly

.............how much? out:

It's been stable at $0.459 for about 3-5 months now. And I'm out in the stix so prices should be cheaper in metropolitan areas.

Mind you it hurts to fill the dirt bike, now costing me $22 per jerry :

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by Casper

Public Transport, I love it.
Paying $1.30l in fuel to sit in peak hour traffic waiting for some idiot to eventually hit my car in a rush of idiocy, then getting to work and paying $11 a day for the privledge of parking in a nonsecure carpark only to come out of work dreading the day my car is damaged or simply gone. Then jump in and enjoy another hour heading home, in peak hour, once again waiting for the inevitable smash...or worse.
Price of fuel per month: $400
Price of parking per month: $260
Wear and tear....Priceless!
Total: $660 (yes, thats a nice chunk of change per month)

Comparing that to publc transport.. I leave home about 10 minutes earlier and get back about 15 minutes later.. cost NIL
I spend $148 a month on a 2 zone monthly ticket and might go through $30 in fuel getting to and from the station...if I drive rather then get dropped off.
Sit on the train, read a book or the paper and glance up at the inevitable traffic snarls and fender benders each morning. No stress, no fuss.
Total Cost $178 a month... I know people who spend that on grog on a Sat night.

The difference is that, on the weekends, I get to blow $20 or $30 in fuel just having fun in my car and the kms stay off the odo.

The price of fuel sucks I'll agree... but I guess it hurts some a lot more than me.

Whilst public transport certainly makes sense - i just hate it with a passion. Local bus routes from my place to the city are overfull, packed with snotty little school kids who wont stand up for elderly/frail/females so on the rare occasion i get a seat, 10 times out of 10 i'll end up forgoing it for someone. So can forget browsing through the finny rev or even playing games on the phone. 25 bucks a week to stand up in a stuffy, crowded bus - particularly after an 11 hour day.... no thanks. Maybe it works a lot better in your city??

Im getting free parking at the moment which is a god send. Usually $9.50 a day and ive been broken into at said carpark - still worth every red cent IMO. Dont use much fuel, only a 30minute drive in peak hour, usually 10-15mins at 7:30 am. Adelaide not a bad place as far as traffic is concerned.

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Rapid growth always expected in a developing nation... but surely it's their right to do so?? surely we cant blame them for taking "our" oil??

I never doubted that, it was just one of my explainations as to the rise in fuel price, it's all a free market - and if "your" willing to pay more for a scarce resource than "I" am, then your welcome to it. No xenophobia in the Dave_au corner.

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Im getting free parking at the moment which is a god send. Usually $9.50 a day and ive been broken into at said carpark - still worth every red cent IMO. Dont use much fuel, only a 30minute drive in peak hour, usually 10-15mins at 7:30 am. Adelaide not a bad place as far as traffic is concerned.

I work square in the CBD of Melbourne so public transport is a treat. Takes about a 40 minute tram ride - but its only 6km's so the speed isn't great. Stopping every 500 metres sucks.

My previous job I had to drive to work, it was about 1.2km from here so a little over 7km to work. It would take me 50minutes to do the drive leaving home at 8am. And sometimes over 90 minutes to go home if there was an accident.

Public transport is wonderful, I read books, do crosswords, do sudoku, and partake in aurual japanese classes on my iPod. おひよございます

[Casper]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Whilst public transport certainly makes sense - i just hate it with a passion. Local bus routes from my place to the city are overfull, packed with snotty little school kids who wont stand up for elderly/frail/females so on the rare occasion i get a seat, 10 times out of 10 i'll end up forgoing it for someone. So can forget browsing through the finny rev or even playing games on the phone. 25 bucks a week to stand up in a stuffy, crowded bus - particularly after an 11 hour day.... no thanks. Maybe it works a lot better in your city??

Im getting free parking at the moment which is a god send. Usually $9.50 a day and ive been broken into at said carpark - still worth every red cent IMO. Dont use much fuel, only a 30minute drive in peak hour, usually 10-15mins at 7:30 am. Adelaide not a bad place as far as traffic is concerned.

Buses dont count, I wouldnt get on one of those jokes for free! I'm talking about trains and trams in Melbourne. The trains are very reliable usually and although crowded, I'm on the second stop of the line so always get a seat. The trams are I take are on St Kilda road and I have yet to wait longer than 3 minutes for one... and its only a 10 minute trip to the station anyhow.

Considering I live WAY out in the West of Melbourne, I think for me the option of public transport is by far the best... I guess I may be lucky in that regards.

[RED_EL_XR8]

$1.37.9 x 57L. Just adding it to the bill.


Public transport, yeah not again in this lifetime. The mass unwashed are free to travel Red free!!

[Quadcams]

These petrol price rises are great when you own a V8, I paid $1.36.9 yesterday for ultimate at least I can claim some of it back on tax.

[cArSiK]

the scary thing is that its summer in the USA now.....when their oil demand goes up in their winter we will really cop it.
Having said that....on my recent trip to Europe i noticed the prices over there are amazing. In Paris a liter of fuel is about A$1.90 , Athens A$1.60 , Rome A$1.70 so we are really not in that bad a situation compared to some parts of the world.

James

[smoo]

In NZ we are taxed about $0.60/l, and then theres GST on that (tax on top of a tax, bastards). Doesnt go down too well when averaging 25l/100km.

[Bossxr8]

The government are pricks. Many of us got a bit of a tax cut last month but the money would go straight back to them in fuel tax, the higher the price of petrol the more they get, so the tax cuts really cost the government nothing.

[Citric GT]

Judging by the amount of traffic today, its still not dear enough.

[gtfpv]

i say make it $5 A LITRE US AUSSIES wont complian abit. it wouldn't get passed a whinge on a forum

[XR8putts]

All someone has to do is find a way to make water ignite/burn/explode.

Somethings are easier said than done.

Just stuck in $25 worth @ $1.44/L here in NZ. Imma go cry in the corner now.

[The MaDDeSTMaN]

No offense intended to anyone, but if there is one thing I HATE, it's public transport. I used to be a fan of it when I lived in the northern suburbs, where a tram or train was never much more then a few minutes walk away, but over here in St Albans, Melbourne, Victoria, public transport is laughable!

We have NO trams, we have the one train line which is over a 1/2 hour walk from my house, we have buses that if you're lucky come once every 1/2 an hour when they're running on time. The trains usually resemble urine filled cattle trains, with people packed in and too many people obviously affected by drugs and doing all they can to intimidate other passengers.

So, with all due respect, I'd rather drive a car and get stuck in peak hour traffic going over the westgate bridge at 20km/h rather then spend any time on public transport.

I just hope petrol doesn't get too much more expensive, I miss driving my little 4 cyl Escort, that thing ran on the smell of an oily rag compared to the XF...

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by The MaDDeSTMaN

No offense intended to anyone, but if there is one thing I HATE, it's public transport. I used to be a fan of it when I lived in the northern suburbs, where a tram or train was never much more then a few minutes walk away, but over here in St Albans, Melbourne, Victoria, public transport is laughable!

We have NO trams, we have the one train line which is over a 1/2 hour walk from my house, we have buses that if you're lucky come once every 1/2 an hour when they're running on time. The trains usually resemble urine filled cattle trains, with people packed in and too many people obviously affected by drugs and doing all they can to intimidate other passengers.

So, with all due respect, I'd rather drive a car and get stuck in peak hour traffic going over the westgate bridge at 20km/h rather then spend any time on public transport.

I just hope petrol doesn't get too much more expensive, I miss driving my little 4 cyl Escort, that thing ran on the smell of an oily rag compared to the XF...

Don't worry.. you're not the only one. Sh*ttyRail.. erm, sorry, CityRail, are so horrible. Options for going to the city and back daily from where I live?

Option 1 -
1.5 - 2 hrs on the M4 Motorway/Paramatta Rd in bumper - bumper, in your own car, with your own a/c, music, etc.

Option 2 -
1 - 1.5 hrs on the train, which is always at least 5 min late, usually 10, and packed so full of people you have to stand on top of each other, breathe in the germs of sick people, etc etc, smelly stale air, etc etc. And get where you're going late even though you left on time, because of their horrible service.

I know which I'd rather do.

[t2te50]

It will need to get over $1.80 to be a real issue for me anyway.

[MITCHAY]

Hate public transport. In winter because some people usually walk or ride a bike they catch the bus instead and its so packed.

In summer a lot of people arent very hygenic and smells the bus out to high heaven.

Public transport is very unreliable aswell. Yes you might get traffic jams and such with a car but at least its easier that you expect it to happen and plan for it. ie. leave earlier.

If you know how the traffic flows then its simple to know how to travel although still a bit frustrating (yes this is only canberra but still can get pretty chocker here)

With public transport if its goin to be late and there isnt anything you can do about it.

[AdzT3-146]

im lucky i only live 5 mins from work. drive a fair bit on saturdays so put in about 45 litres every thursday (payday).

[brenx]

I wish I was the gov't double dipping on exise and GST. What can you do?? Race fuels starting to look like a better alternative.

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by puts99

All someone has to do is find a way to make water ignite/burn/explode.

Somethings are easier said than done.

Just stuck in $25 worth @ $1.44/L here in NZ. Imma go cry in the corner now.

Not going to help us here, State Govt has run all the water down the drain!

[brenx]

Do it to salt water. We have plenty of that :P

[RED_EL_XR8]

And say no to Bio-diesel too. I'm sick enough of driving home hungry at 9pm as it is without the tunnel smelling of fish & chips!