Australia is living through a long recession

[zilo]

Originally Posted by JG34JA

There will be times when it seems every 2nd house on the street is for sale and buyers just can't be found. There will be times when 4000+ applicants apply for 21 jobs. If you are lucky you will start employment in boom times, if you are unlucky you will start in a bust. It comes and goes around. What is more of an anomaly is that since the mid/late 90's it's been almost constant boom.

been telling my kids most of their lives...don't borrow...value your job...work hard at school...don't pizz your pay up at clubs every week.

They reluctantly listened...now are nodding their heads at me every time the news gets worse and worse.

Just depends on how long you've been around as to whether you know it's time to store the nuts away for the winter or to feast on them.

[Trump]

We were sent up the creek decades ago in the 1970's when "economic rationalisation" became the in-thing in halls of power. We were sold out by people meant to be working for us and in our best interests to transnational corporations. We are witnessing the result of their actions today with the demise of manufacturing in Australia.

Blaming the blue or the red team for our predicament is pointless, they dance to the same tune, always have, always will...

[burnz]

Originally Posted by xe351

nsw central coast is very slow over the last 12 months, lots looking for work, work hours shortened for those in employment, and business owners saying its the hardest economically they have ever had

your kidding arnt you?

around 130 jobs at Somersby and cant get them filled,, most fail the drug test!

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by burnz

your kidding arnt you?

around 130 jobs at Somersby and cant get them filled,, most fail the drug test!

Lol, that's the thing, we had a heap of applicants for a forky job a while back, but by the time you weeded out the dreaming ex miners, the ones that didn't even bother sending a legible cover letter or resume, the ones that wanted to try to negotiate different working hours, well I think there was only a dozen or so actual serious applications.
And we don't even do drug tests.

Seems a lot of people say they want to work, but based on the (lack of) effort they don't really.

[opto]

Australians no longer control their general financial status or employment because we are no longer a primary manufacturing base as we were 30 to 40 years ago. We are also supposed to have about 3 to 4 recessions in a lifetime.

[Geez Louise]

At my work we just advertised an admin position that became vacant. We had to pull the job ad after 2 days because the applications came in thick and fast. 2 days and over 300 applications. And don't even get me started when we put an ad in the paper/online for a labourer...It is a full day just to go through the applications.

There are more people looking for work than 12mths ago, that is for sure.

[FGII-XR6]

I hear you we are always after bus drivers our casuals are on $29 /Hour so it's not bad money . what sort of jobs are you trying to fill?

Originally Posted by burnz

your kidding arnt you?

around 130 jobs at Somersby and cant get them filled,, most fail the drug test!

[Resurrection]

Just out of curiosity I went for a walk earlier today through an exclusive part of the city I live in. In the 2,200 meters (according to Google maps) I counted 23 shop fronts with 'for lease' signs. Checked the same stretch of road on Google street view which shows picture date as December 2009 - a total 12 shops for lease. Would like to have see the same stretch of road in 2007 before the GFC hit.

[Yellow_Festiva]

It's just getting ridiculous... I've been fighting 4 months of red tape to get a substantial house built. I have had to revise it smaller twice now. The reasons are beyond a joke as to why we haven't started building yet and I'm seriously considering pulling the plug on the whole project. Work for a whole heap of people for the best part of a year.

Perhaps the town planner will be out of a job soon enough.

Instead of trying to use common sense to keep things going they are just shooting themselves in the feet. I certainly feel for business that are continually hitting brick walls due to ridiculous red tape.

[Iggypoppin']

I have been looking at our forecasts for functions and people are definitely going to be spending up big this summer. Nearly 20million for September-January and that's not including room revenue, club revenue and general food and beverage revenue. What is this recession? Some industries go nuts some dont.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

I hear you we are always after bus drivers our casuals are on $29 /Hour so it's not bad money . what sort of jobs are you trying to fill?

borgs need 2 machinist at Somersby 3 at blue haven as well as 7 RT truck drivers.
home hardwear west Gosford need 120 various employees.
bunning west Gosford need 12..

it took us 2 years to fill 120 jobs.... they just don't want to work.

[wrongwaynorris]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

We were sent up the creek decades ago in the 1970's when "economic rationalisation" became the in-thing in halls of power. We were sold out by people meant to be working for us and in our best interests to transnational corporations. We are witnessing the result of their actions today with the demise of manufacturing in Australia.

Blaming the blue or the red team for our predicament is pointless, they dance to the same tune, always have, always will...

Not true , only one party systematically and deliberately dismantled our tarrif protection that had been in place since the late 40's .

[KIWI-1]

Originally Posted by wrongwaynorris

Not true , only one party systematically and deliberately dismantled our tarrif protection that had been in place since the late 40's .

Not true. Tariffs have been applied since 1902. 'Motor cars' were first identified as a separate group in the Customs Tariff 1908. Both sides of Government have made changes since. Average tariff + Primage:
1901 25%
1907: 30%
1911: 37.5%
1920: 45%
1930: 49%
1931: 55%
1932: 52.5%
etc.
2004: 10%

100 Years of Tariff Protection in Australia by Peter Lloyd

http://www.economics.unimelb.edu.au/...rs-07/1023.pdf

[mik]

perhaps Wrongway, but the lima agreement was another nail in the Australian coffin, it won't matter soon anyway, our Australian constitution is now registered in the US(how did that happen?), we are slowly having our rights diminished beneath the our noses, we are becoming a puppet colony of the the UN(new world order), part of that process is to bankrupt the country, aside from gov debt, look at personal debt, look at manufacturing, what is that old saying? heading up **** creek without a paddle?

[wrongwaynorris]

In 1973 Tarrifs were cut by a massive 25% in one hit overnight with zero warning to industry . In 1972/3 Australia recorded its last ever trade surplus , the next year we had a trade deficit of $1.5 billion and 138,000 manufacturing jobs were lost . All that took place in a 12 month period . Never in the countries history has such a momentous shift occurred before or since .

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I have been looking at our forecasts for functions and people are definitely going to be spending up big this summer. Nearly 20million for September-January and that's not including room revenue, club revenue and general food and beverage revenue. What is this recession? Some industries go nuts some dont.

Something I discovered whilst delivering to a large green grog chain was that in times or financial hardship, people drink more grog.
Whilst every other retail order was on a downward slide, the grog orders grew by the week.

[mik]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Something I discovered whilst delivering to a large green grog chain was that in times or financial hardship, people drink more grog.
Whilst every other retail order was on a downward slide, the grog orders grew by the week.

This is true, times get tough or life turns to crap, many people numb the pain with booze.

[Dr Jekkyl]

The elephant in the room is private debt at 150% of GDP.

That money has to be paid back at some point.

There is no better example of dead money than interest to a financier.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekkyl

The elephant in the room is private debt at 150% of GDP.

That money has to be paid back at some point.

There is no better example of dead money than interest to a financier.

Yep, All those new first home buyers with new houses and two new cars in the driveway..... The banks made it happen on purpose and the gov were in on it too!

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekkyl

The elephant in the room is private debt at 150% of GDP.

That money has to be paid back at some point.

There is no better example of dead money than interest to a financier.

The massive wealth transfer is yet to happen...

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

The massive wealth transfer is yet to happen...

It is happening as we speak....Has been in motion for many years but mainly the last 5 since GFC 1....... And GFC 2 aint to far away either it seems!

[Iggypoppin']

Well the majority of our revenue is rooms but the "busy time" we make the most revenue from functions. I wouldn't say that school formals (40% of functions booked) would be people drowning their sorrows, the rest are usually corporate functions so yes people are drinking a lot but it's usually in celebration. The companies that can afford to host 80-150k functions are usually full of happy employees. And then there is weddings, we do lots of those. The only people drowning sorrows there are the husbands.
I'm going to say that the hotels coastal location is the winner for us.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

Well the majority of our revenue is rooms but the "busy time" we make the most revenue from functions. I wouldn't say that school formals (40% of functions booked) would be people drowning their sorrows, the rest are usually corporate functions so yes people are drinking a lot but it's usually in celebration. The companies that can afford to host 80-150k functions are usually full of happy employees. And then there is weddings, we do lots of those. The only people drowning sorrows there are the husbands.
I'm going to say that the hotels coastal location is the winner for us.

Oh, so you work in a function centre type scenario yeah?

My nephew was driving for Wavel's Party hire through the end of year rush last year.
He was working casual rates, flat out from Cup day through to Christmas, then it went dead and he was out of a job.
he's hoping to get some more work with them this year to go with the other part time stuff he has managed to land.
Driving jobs are few and far between at the moment in Adelaide.

[GASWAGON]

Ye thers NO or very minimal truck driving jobs in Vic SE at the moment.

[fanboi]

Originally Posted by xe351

nsw central coast is very slow over the last 12 months, lots looking for work, work hours shortened for those in employment, and business owners saying its the hardest economically they have ever had

I decided to move back to the central coast for a while on Tuesday night, Had a job lined up this morning. If you are willing to work there are plenty of jobs.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by imugli

A recession is 2 successive quarters of negative GDP growth.

outright GDP, or per capita? you can have one positive while the other is negative if economic growth hasnt kept pace with population growth.

[XWGT]

Melbourne is very quiet for construction and associated trades.

And what is out there is now at very very low margin.

Overall I can tell you first hand that senior management and executive positions are not anywhere near as plentiful as 5 years ago. A very tight market indeed.

[GASWAGON]

Mechanics jobs on internet are basically ZERO!

[Iggypoppin']

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Oh, so you work in a function centre type scenario yeah?

My nephew was driving for Wavel's Party hire through the end of year rush last year.
He was working casual rates, flat out from Cup day through to Christmas, then it went dead and he was out of a job.
he's hoping to get some more work with them this year to go with the other part time stuff he has managed to land.
Driving jobs are few and far between at the moment in Adelaide.

I'm in a 5 star hotel that has a full floor of function rooms, nightclub, cocktail lounge, restaurant, art gallery, pokies and obviously rooms to rent.

[FGII-XR6]

tell him to check out bus driving most depots around the country struggle to find drivers. only casual to start with but it's work

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Oh, so you work in a function centre type scenario yeah?

My nephew was driving for Wavel's Party hire through the end of year rush last year.
He was working casual rates, flat out from Cup day through to Christmas, then it went dead and he was out of a job.
he's hoping to get some more work with them this year to go with the other part time stuff he has managed to land.
Driving jobs are few and far between at the moment in Adelaide.