Wages in Australia and US

[Bossxr8]

In comparison Ford production workers make around $23 an hour.

Can't believe its $14-15 in the US.

I remember hearing that the minimum wage in the US is now lower than it was in the 70's, is that true.

[ebxr8240]

Wages are low yet there's so much dept...
Some people should be in jail IMO...

[Ben73]

Apparently Australia is one of the highest taxed Nations in the world.

Government loves getting money out of us any way they can. Even with all the money we give them, they still can't do anything right. We are basically their bosses since we pay them(tax) we should fire them.

[nuthin' fancy]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Apparently Australia is one of the highest taxed Nations in the world.

Government loves getting money out of us any way they can. Even with all the money we give them, they still can't do anything right. We are basically their bosses since we pay them(tax) we should fire them.

Can't get ANYTHING right?

Have you driven on a road lately?
Have you lodged your tax and received a refund?
Ever made a Medicare Claim?
Ever needed emergency treatment in a hospital?

[kyro_02]

where i work, we have workers on as low as 16 an hour.. casual/full time positions... i think, maybe even lower.. for a company that makes billions annually, and still cry for not making much money... what a rort.. they also bleed when it comes time to buying second hand equipment(yes second hand!! not new)

the workers who actually physically work get shafted

[Jimmyd]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Can't get ANYTHING right?

Have you driven on a road lately?
Have you lodged your tax and received a refund?
Ever made a Medicare Claim?
Ever needed emergency treatment in a hospital?

Have you driven on the Bruce Hwy in Queensland - yes, National Highway 1; it is a two lane death trap from around Nambour to Cairns that floods at the drop of a hat and is like a four wheel drive adventure park with wheel destroying potholes for the other 10-11 months of the year

But then I s'pose 3 out of 4 ain't bad....

[Bucknaked]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Can't get ANYTHING right?


Ever made a Medicare Claim?

Yeah I love the way I am forced to pay for a health fund. If i go to the doctor, I claim it back through medicare, not my health fund. And regardless of the several thousands of dollars per year I pay, if I make a claim, for something, I get only a portion back. I am paying for shareholders dividends.

And health funds make out they are doing you a favour and get all excited to talk about new products. "Yes Sir, if you pay $5k a year and claim for a pair of glasses, we will only pay the first couple of hundred. You pay the rest. No, it's sperate to the money we are already extorting out of you. So on behalf of the government, shareholders and my employer, we wish to say thankyou and have enjoyed screwing you over since you've been forced to be in a private health fund. Thankyou for chosing our health fund. We enjoy getting your money for nothing"

[dre fgf6]

I personally couldn't see the benefit of private health cover. So I pay the extra 1%. the cover you get for that much is hopeless and in the unlikely event I require health care that incurs costs I will wear it.

As for this..

Originally Posted by Ben73

We are basically their bosses since we pay them(tax) we should fire them.

We are the bosses. we collectively hired them. And at the end of the contract we agreed to hire them for we will have an interview process for the next term.. So if your not happy vote for someone else and hope everyone else does the same.

[My32Doors]

Originally Posted by Jimmyd

Have you driven on the Bruce Hwy in Queensland - yes, National Highway 1; it is a two lane death trap from around Nambour to Cairns that floods at the drop of a hat and is like a four wheel drive adventure park with wheel destroying potholes for the other 10-11 months of the year

But then I s'pose 3 out of 4 ain't bad....

Have to agree! Haven't driven on a worse sealed road since Mt Isa to Camooweal was rebuilt!

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Can't get ANYTHING right?

Have you driven on a road lately?
Have you lodged your tax and received a refund?
Ever made a Medicare Claim?
Ever needed emergency treatment in a hospital?

You don't live in NSW do you?

Bring on March...

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

I am a SAP Functional Consultant - Computer Super Nerd...

I basically build and design Payroll systems for large companies. We start with a standard product being SAP and then re engineer the processes and make everything more efficient. I mostly work as a consultant these days rather than a full time employee, although the contracts are usually 6-12 months work and the going rate is around 1100-1500 a day now...

I got an interview on Monday for a Midrange Analyst/Developer which will be mostly SAP work in the APS. I have noticed that there seems to be decent coin, seems to be quite challenging work though too :


Anyway every single American I have met have said that everything is so expensive here which is what we already know.

Everything is taxed to high heaven but if we are complaining about how it is now I can only imagine how worse off we could be.

[Franco Cozzo]

I'm a first year apprentice auto electrician and I'm on $10.61 an hour, which is about $3 over the award wage for a junior apprentice who has finished year 12.

[dre fgf6]

That must be Really hard to make ends meet. Dont worry though as there will Be more money when you finish!

[ebxr8240]

Any country printing money to survive is heading for trouble..
Soon U.S will have an inflation to pay for this..

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 20 Feb 2011 at 12:23:08 AM GMT is:

14,132,264,902,043.38



The estimated population of the United States is 310,063,379
so each citizen's share of this debt is $45,578.63.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$4.13 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

This cannot continue ....

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by dre fgf6

That must be Really hard to make ends meet. Dont worry though as there will Be more money when you finish!

I live at home with my parents so its actually pretty good, it just sucks because you have to save up longer for everything haha.

I also have another casual job

[EDManual]

It only looks like we are paid a well at the moment as our dollar is worth lots at the moment. Never did anyone think we were well paid against americans when our dollar was at 60 or 70c us.

[ebxr8240]

Originally Posted by EDManual

It only looks like we are paid a well at the moment as our dollar is worth lots at the moment. Never did anyone think we were well paid against americans when our dollar was at 60 or 70c us.

With out sounding like an old **** .. The harder you work and more training you do the luckier you'll be latter...
Um help Mum and some home duties while at home.. Lol...

[Lukeyson]

its quite amazing the difference in wages & how much stuff costs, AUS vs USA, i have a few friends over there and we occasionaly have a laugh.

Im a pleb in public service and get about $29-30 per hour, 15% super paid too.

Interesting figures there ebxr !

[Franco Cozzo]

[QUOTE=ebxr8240
Um help Mum and some home duties while at home.. Lol...[/QUOTE]

Haha, I service their cars and mow the lawn every now and again

[GS608]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I'm a first year apprentice auto electrician and I'm on $10.61 an hour, which is about $3 over the award wage for a junior apprentice who has finished year 12.

Lucky mate, i'm a first year plumber on $7.19 an hour, Didn't think anyone was paid above award wage as an apprentice lol

[ebxr8240]

[QUOTE=Big Damo]

Originally Posted by ebxr8240
Um help Mum and some home duties while at home.. Lol...[/QUOTE

Haha, I service their cars and mow the lawn every now and again

Want to talk to my son ??? CUT the lawns !!! I have issues getting the cars shifted so I can cut them.... Ahaha...

Last year I went to visit my brother who lives in Chicago..
After going to Sema show..
I often suffer from asthma when traveling long distance on airlines..
Sheesh to buy some spray etc was going to cost me well over $500+...
Thank God rugby teams [Chicago blaze] have doctors etc..
I got away with $200 which would have cost $20 or so here..
If you think our system is bad ?? If you can't afford medi insurance in U.S your in big trouble...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by 5.0

Lucky mate, i'm a first year plumber on $7.19 an hour, Didn't think anyone was paid above award wage as an apprentice lol

Haha, I used to be at a Honda dealership, $7.05 an hour. But thats pretty low for a plumber, are you domestic or construction? My friend up the road is a first year construction plumber and hes on just under $17 an hour.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Can't get ANYTHING right?

Have you driven on a road lately?
Have you lodged your tax and received a refund?
Ever made a Medicare Claim?
Ever needed emergency treatment in a hospital?

Yes, The roads suck
Received a refund eventually.
And last time I went to hospital it took 6 hours.

[GT 160]

The " Trolleyologist's " at shopping centres get paid upwards of $25 an hr.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by 5.0

Lucky mate, i'm a first year plumber on $7.19 an hour, Didn't think anyone was paid above award wage as an apprentice lol

Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of gravel, work twenty hour day at the mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!

Seriously though... Stick out the trade!.. I was on $25.75 A WEEK (cleared $25.00) as a 1st yr apprentice.
Now have a business employing 30 including 3 apprentices, Who BTW, whine about lowly apprentice wages!.. So nothings really changed over the years?

[GS608]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Haha, I used to be at a Honda dealership, $7.05 an hour. But thats pretty low for a plumber, are you domestic or construction? My friend up the road is a first year construction plumber and hes on just under $17 an hour.

Commercial plumbing mate, looks like im with the wrong company lol.

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Seriously though... Stick out the trade!.. I was on $25.75 A WEEK (cleared $25.00) as a 1st yr apprentice.
Now have a business employing 30 including 3 apprentices, Who BTW, whine about lowly apprentice wages!.. So nothings really changed over the years?

Yeah I plan to stick it out, 4 years aint that long really, it's not too bad, work a lot of overtime and don't have any time to spend it so savings build up quick.

[belvo]

Lucky mate, i'm a first year plumber on $7.19 an hour, Didn't think anyone was paid above award wage as an apprentice lol

I'm also a first year plumber (mechanical) and im on $12.67 a hour plus site allowance which is a minimum $2,50 a hour

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Apparently Australia is one of the highest taxed Nations in the world.

I'd have a look around some of the European countries that are taxing at the 70% mark.

[SB076]

Originally Posted by ebxr8240

Any country printing money to survive is heading for trouble..
Soon U.S will have an inflation to pay for this..

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 20 Feb 2011 at 12:23:08 AM GMT is:

14,132,264,902,043.38



The estimated population of the United States is 310,063,379
so each citizen's share of this debt is $45,578.63.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$4.13 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

This cannot continue ....

That is worrying, then you start thinking about what happens if the US does stumble (alternative super powers) and that is frightening.

[kyro_02]

Originally Posted by SB076

That is worrying, then you start thinking about what happens if the US does stumble (alternative super powers) and that is frightening.

how are they going to pay for this.... thats just crazy..