Today is halloween *caution rant involved* - Page 2

Feathers · 31-10-2007, 07:31 PM

I went to a Halloween party on saturday night at a friends place.
Was good fun. We all got dressed up like zombies, corpses or whatever, and looked fantastic/stupid, had a few drinks, caught up with friends, and there was even a fire twirling display in the backyard by one of the guys attending.
It was great to be silly and have a bit of fun for the night, but of course any excuse for a party is always good.

As for the kids trick or treating and such, I never did it, and I wouldn't allow any kids I ever have to do it either.

Rodp · 31-10-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

In all seriousness, we aren't in America. I live in Australia, however with the Americanisation that we are undergoing at the moment, we are becoming the 51st state of America. Halloween.

Unbelievable. :\

Rodp · 31-10-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Feathers

As for the kids trick or treating and such, I never did it, and I wouldn't allow any kids I ever have to do it either.

Considering the responses in this thread, if I had kids, neither would I.

It's a harmless night where kids can have a lot of fun and get out and meet their community. It also seems that the majority of resistance of it is because it makes us more 'Americanised'. We're on the Internet people, look up where Halloween actually originates from.

My parents are from Scotland, and I knew about Halloween well before the first Simpsons Halloween episode, but if we want to get serious about all this Americanised BS, we should organise a posse to round up as many Santas and stone them (I believe the Americans celebrate that in late December sometime) so be on the lookout.

Focussed · 31-10-2007, 07:50 PM

Too americanised? give me a break. This is FORD Forums? Remember Henry Ford of America...

Paxton · 31-10-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Focussed

Too americanised? give me a break. This is FORD Forums? Remember Henry Ford of America...

The majority of members here drive the AUSTRALIAN Falcon! Not the American Taurus.

jasjul · 31-10-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I'm with you. Anybody who knocks on my door this evening and says 'trick or treat' will get a rude surprise.

FF

Ditto.

Quasi · 31-10-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

We embrace too many things American. Halloween, is there actually any point to it? What does it represent? I never understood the point. I guess its another one of those events designed purely for it's commercial value. Throw on some silly holliday, make it a tradition and get people into the shops buying lollies and treats for other people's children and paying for ridiculous costumes.

Yes, its an American tradition. And thats where it should stay.

Mate, it's not actually American at all. The tradition was taken up by the Scots in around 850 AD, who took the idea from the irish. It was originally a 'Festival of the dead' type of thing, and was celebrated in different ways depending on religous flavour.

When the poms sailed to 'The New World' and settled the Americas it grew from there. These days it has become more commercialised due to American influence.

vztrt · 31-10-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

but if we want to get serious about all this Americanised BS, we should organise a posse to round up as many Santas and stone them (I believe the Americans celebrate that in late December sometime) so be on the lookout.

Can we??? That fat bastard has been stealing my cookies. :P

Rodp · 31-10-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Can we??? That fat bastard has been stealing my cookies. :P

If he's also fiddling with your beer, let me know.. I'll go grab a sock and start loading it with rocks.

Feathers · 31-10-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

Considering the responses in this thread, if I had kids, neither would I.

It's a harmless night where kids can have a lot of fun and get out and meet their community.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of sickos out there.
As I said in another thread last year, my neighbourhood isn't known for being a nice community-minded, friendly place.
I could point out heaps of places around me that were the scenes of drive-by's, gang rapes, shootings, fire bombings, police raids...
All within a 5 minute drive from here.
Three houses in my street alone have been raided by the MEO crime squad this year.

If my kids wanted to do something for it, then they might get a party at home with their friends where they could dress up, but they wouldn't be out knocking on strangers' doors.

Yellow_Festiva · 31-10-2007, 09:48 PM

It may not be technically "American" but I would assume the vast majority of people don't know the real roots of this day.

Same like saying that spaghetti was invented by the Italians (even though technically it was invented by the Chinese many Eons befor the Italians) Or LG is the initials for Lifes Good (Even though the roots of the company were Goldstar, and LG actually stands for Lucky Goldstar).

Splitting hairs I know. But you ask 100 people where Halloween comes from and they will say Halloween = American.

No one has actually come to my house as yet.... I'll be curious as to how many kids in reality actually go out "trick or treating".

Rodp · 31-10-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Splitting hairs I know. But you ask 100 people where Halloween comes from and they will say Halloween = American.

So ignorance fuelling hatred of it is ok?

Falcon Freak · 31-10-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

So ignorance fuelling hatred of it is ok?

It is not hatred. It is an attempt to protect ourselves from being engulfed by foreign cultures and losing our sense of identity.

And it is not ignorance. Although Halloween may have been historically started outside the US, it is the Americans who have turned it into what it is. So this is their tradition which does not belong here.

FF

blueoval · 31-10-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

I saw a hot girl in her late teens in a mini skirt and black leather top walking down the street (it was a halloween outfit)

So I'd be happy to give treats if people like that came knocking on my door.

what kind of "treat"? hmmm?

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What "trick" do you give the kids if you dont treat them?

1970galaxie · 31-10-2007, 10:48 PM

Coming into my street this arvo, I see a bunch of Muslim kids wearing there "rag" gear, and doing some door knocking. So how come they now want "our" traditions now, but never at other times?
And....I just had some mongrels knocking on my door, then they leave and egg my front window. It wont happen again!!

steamin63 · 31-10-2007, 10:50 PM

last year some little sh!ts [about 15] came to my house for trick and treat and i told them politely that i didn't have anything for them because i don't believe in celebrating holloween. when they left they trashed my letter box. so this year i was ready. when some others tried to throw eggs at my house i pelted them with water bombs [water and lime coloured clothes dye]. score me 1 - losers 0. next year i might try bricks.lol.

blueoval · 31-10-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by steamin63

last year some little sh!ts [about 15] came to my house for trick and treat and i told them politely that i didn't have anything for them because i don't believe in celebrating holloween. when they left they trashed my letter box. so this year i was ready. when some others tried to throw eggs at my house i pelted them with water bombs [water and lime coloured clothes dye]. score me 1 - losers 0. next year i might try bricks.lol.

pics of you throwing bricks at 15yo losers or ban

Fev · 31-10-2007, 10:56 PM

never did it but i dont really care about it.. its fun for the kids so why be a dick and ruin their fun.. if you dont wanna do it dont, but dont tryin and ruin it for others

Kenster · 31-10-2007, 10:56 PM

This morning i was driving to work i was listerning to the radio after teaching your kids not to accept from strangers why it is any different to let your own kids do it on this certain day which made it accept. For me i would agree since i got friends who has siblings around those age which probably want to do that but yet you want to be caution

Rodp · 31-10-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

It is not hatred. It is an attempt to protect ourselves from being engulfed by foreign cultures and losing our sense of identity.

And it is not ignorance. Although Halloween may have been historically started outside the US, it is the Americans who have turned it into what it is. So this is their tradition which does not belong here.

FF

Foreign cultures?! are you kidding me? This is Australia, founded by the culture of those who started Halloween. Just because we're engulfed by American TV doesn't mean we should be ignorant of Halloween.

Are you for eliminating Christmas? Have a look at your TV and see where all the Christmas specials come from.

So what is our sense of identity, apart from ignorance?

StealthAu · 31-10-2007, 11:12 PM

Whats halloween all about anyway? I don't know jack about it.

gtfpv · 31-10-2007, 11:17 PM

ok so it's a festival, of the dead !!!!! that explains why they dress as zombies and mummies and whiches .

whichcraft is rife in america . which is deemed a religion by the people practicing it . lots of woman , believe they are whitches and have hijacked holloween as a day of celibration . be it right or wrong . they have hijacked it .
it is also rebelious , against christianity, muslim, and many other religions.
known as a paganistic ritual which celebrates the occult . as evil as this sounds if you dig deep enough , santa and christmas is also anti god .
if your non religious it is harmless . unless your a witch, because then it is your worship.
if you are religious . it is satanic, just like other rituals such as xmas. but it is deemed more evil in nature . , because santa isn't sa ghost or a zombie . ( but in reality they are supposedly both bad .
what i find worse than all of this , is the fact that kids are just in it for the lollies . hahaha. not really .
what i find worse than all of these is that these days parents have to go and supervise thier kids .

WTF . do we have a sexual pedifile, or murderer in every street . now . this is a sad story.
personally if the kids have fun , it's ok with me . but i dont really endorse it . it rates about as much as thanks giving, or , hunnaka. or chinese new year.
if seen from a battle point of veiw though . the witches and pafganists would see it as one up for them , and hopefully more people would get intoi witchcraft. and the churches would see it is one down to them . losing christians and other religions to paganism .
have i fooked with your minds enough yet. ???????????

Kenster · 31-10-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

It is not hatred. It is an attempt to protect ourselves from being engulfed by foreign cultures and losing our sense of identity.

And it is not ignorance. Although Halloween may have been historically started outside the US, it is the Americans who have turned it into what it is. So this is their tradition which does not belong here.

FF

hmm i thought this country is build by foreign culture which what make Australia unquine from other countries. But your comment is abit harsh to at least to say and abit on the offensive say to least to say. If you are going to question im Asian and i live pretty much in Australia all my life but i still follow my own culture

steevo d · 31-10-2007, 11:21 PM

BAAH HUMBUG to you all!!!
never seen such a bunch of wingers & i work with a lot of women!
flame suit on now..
deadset... an event like this is for the kiddies to have an afternoon
doing something they don't normally do & i bet they all love every minute of it.
i have a 2 yr old & when she is ols enough I'll dress up with her & take her around the street for trick or treat IF SHE WANTS TO..
as far as the diet/getting too fat from 1 day of doing this give me a break........
as far as americanised..HELLO we live in a GLOBAL environment in 2007, get your head out of the sand.
the parents of obese kids should stop giving them maccas's daily, etc instead of a BALANCED diet, balanced meaning everything in moderation.
something like haloween is to be enjoyed for what it is to the kids, not frowned upon by a bunch of whingers...!

nowo i have said my bit feel free to try & flame me!

gtfpv · 31-10-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

hmm i thought this country is build by foreign culture which what make Australia unquine from other countries. But your comment is abit harsh to at least to say and abit on the offensive say to least to say. If you are going to question im Asian and i live pretty much in Australia all my life but i still follow my own culture

honestly dude . here . why do you follow your own culture ???
wouldnt it be better to go back home where your culture is then . and why do you have a chip on your shoulder . you should be proud your asian, but why not be an australian if your living here .
australians need a culture to you know???

Racecraft · 31-10-2007, 11:25 PM

i had a group of 4 kids knock @ my door, dad and the family dog waited on the street. I had a bag of Snakes Alive that I put into a bowl just incase.. I handed over the sweets to the kids and they were most polite and gracious AND didn't take them all either:P .. About half an hour later their old man knocked on the door to thank me for my 'donation'.. We had a 5 minute chat about where they lived, the neighbourhood etc over a snake lollie or two.

For the 5 bucks it cost me for the bag of sweets it was a money well spent..

I worry about the attitude of some of you and/or the areas you must live in :(

gtfpv · 31-10-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by steevo d

BAAH HUMBUG to you all!!!
never seen such a bunch of wingers & i work with a lot of women!
flame suit on now..
deadset... an event like this is for the kiddies to have an afternoon
doing something they don't normally do & i bet they all love every minute of it.
i have a 2 yr old & when she is ols enough I'll dress up with her & take her around the street for trick or treat IF SHE WANTS TO..
as far as the diet/getting too fat from 1 day of doing this give me a break........
as far as americanised..HELLO we live in a GLOBAL environment in 2007, get your head out of the sand.
the parents of obese kids should stop giving them maccas's daily, etc instead of a BALANCED diet, balanced meaning everything in moderation.
something like haloween is to be enjoyed for what it is to the kids, not frowned upon by a bunch of whingers...!

nowo i have said my bit feel free to try & flame me!

OK I'LL flame you know all.
your kid is 2 years old . you think if she gets fat it's because you feed her maccas. what do you say to people with fat kids who have salad for meals .
i agree kids should have fun . but what about all the witches out there who are trick or treating with thier kids. or for that matter , the deeply anti holloween religious people , praying thaty no one comes on there lawn, or the pedifile thats waiting for the loner to come in for a trick.

you asked for a flaming dude , you got one . !!!

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StealthAu · 31-10-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

ok so it's a festival, of the dead !!!!! that explains why they dress as zombies and mummies and whiches .

whichcraft is rife in america . which is deemed a religion by the people practicing it . lots of woman , believe they are whitches and have hijacked holloween as a day of celibration . be it right or wrong . they have hijacked it .
it is also rebelious , against christianity, muslim, and many other religions.
known as a paganistic ritual which celebrates the occult . as evil as this sounds if you dig deep enough , santa and christmas is also anti god .
if your non religious it is harmless . unless your a witch, because then it is your worship.
if you are religious . it is satanic, just like other rituals such as xmas. but it is deemed more evil in nature . , because santa isn't sa ghost or a zombie . ( but in reality they are supposedly both bad .
what i find worse than all of this , is the fact that kids are just in it for the lollies . hahaha. not really .
what i find worse than all of these is that these days parents have to go and supervise thier kids .

WTF . do we have a sexual pedifile, or murderer in every street . now . this is a sad story.
personally if the kids have fun , it's ok with me . but i dont really endorse it . it rates about as much as thanks giving, or , hunnaka. or chinese new year.
if seen from a battle point of veiw though . the witches and pafganists would see it as one up for them , and hopefully more people would get intoi witchcraft. and the churches would see it is one down to them . losing christians and other religions to paganism .
have i fooked with your minds enough yet. ???????????

wtf?? Since when has CHRISTmas been considered anti Christian? Do you know what it’s all about? I heard somewhere it’s the celebration of the birth of Christ. Just so you all know I’m not some bible basher, I don’t celebrate Christmas or any other religious holiday. But I do know a lot about a lot of FAIRY TALES which millions of people base there lives around.

Kenster · 31-10-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

honestly dude . here . why do you follow your own culture ???
wouldnt it be better to go back home where your culture is then . and why do you have a chip on your shoulder . you should be proud your asian, but why not be an australian if your living here .
australians need a culture to you know???

Reason why i follow my own culture is tradtion and family just like everybody else, im a proud Asian and Australian,and i don't cristimated other cultures.

Racecraft · 31-10-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

OK I'LL flame you know all.
your kid is 2 years old . you think if she gets fat it's because you feed her maccas. what do you say to people with fat kids who have salad for meals .
i agree kids should have fun . but what about all the witches out there who are trick or treating with thier kids. or for that matter , the deeply anti holloween religious people , praying thaty no one comes on there lawn, or the pedifile thats waiting for the loner to come in for a trick.

you asked for a flaming dude , you got one . !!!

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: :evil3:

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maybe you should just stick to Life on Mars and forget about earth :p You have no grasp of our social going ons here :P

In todays climate why can't we just let the kids have abit of safe fun?