Just ordered "The Torch", anyone else got one?

[flappist]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Catagory R weapon. I didn't realise it was a fully automatic rifle

So your knowlege of the weapons acts and regulations is about equal to your knowlege or motor vehicle.......

[flappist]

Originally Posted by ltd

Flappist, it is not an isolated incident. It happens in Sydney every night and as recently as two weeks ago one whole approach to rwy 07 had to be shut down thanks to a bunch of bogans and wannabe terrorists out in the western suburbs who coordinated a cluster laser attack. A virgin 737 executed a missed approach and 7 other inbound AC were diverted to a crosswind landing. It happens alot on approach to tullamarine too. I think it's probably all the flight sim geeks who want props as being the best. .

I saw a lot of 10mW green lasers for sale yesterday at Stanley Markets for $HK 198 ($AU25 or so). I tried one out and the green dot could be seen on an outdoor sunlit wall. This is scary.
Anyone caught lasing an aircraft on finals should be treated as a terrorist and locked up for ever, possibly longer, shot, stabbed, killed twice and then sent to bed without any TV.

A hand held ultrabright torch would be just as bad if not worse. I got zapped with the HIAL on 19 at BBN once during training. I could not see at all for about 10 seconds. VERY SCARY.

Or maybe the idiot could just stand on an overpass and zap cars and trucks to see how many he could cause to crash.


And for those who do not know what a cat R is:

Originally Posted by Weapons Regs 1997

Each of the following is a category R weapon—
(a) a machine gun or submachine gun that is fully automatic
in its operation and actuated by energy developed when
it is being fired or has multiple revolving barrels, and
any replica or facsimile of a machine gun or submachine
gun that is not a toy;
(b) a unit or device that is capable of being used for
converting any firearm to a weapon mentioned in
paragraph (a);
(c) a firearm capable of firing 50 calibre BMG cartridge
ammunition;
(d) an antipersonnel gas, and an antipersonnel substance, of
a corrosive, noxious or irritant nature or that is capable
of causing bodily harm, and any weapon capable of
discharging the gas or substance by any means, other
than a gas or substance and any weapon capable of
discharging the gas or substance that is primarily
designed for the control of native or feral animals;
(e) an acoustical antipersonnel device of an intensity that is
capable of causing bodily harm;
(f) an electrical antipersonnel device of an intensity that is
capable of causing bodily harm;
(g) a hand grenade, other than an inert hand grenade, and an
antipersonnel mine;
(h) a silencer or other device or contrivance made or used,
or capable of being used or intended to be used, for
reducing the sound caused by discharging a firearm;
(i) a rocket launcher, recoilless rifle, antitank rifle, a
bazooka or a rocket propelled grenade type launcher;
(j) a mortar, all artillery and any incendiary or inflammable
device containing any substance capable of causing
bodily harm or damage to property, other than an
incendiary or inflammable device primarily designed for
vegetation management.

I suspect they would argue sub(f) although its original intent was probably TASERs etc.

[FordACE]

Originally Posted by flappist

I saw a lot of 10mW green lasers for sale yesterday at Stanley Markets for $HK 198 ($AU25 or so). I tried one out and the green dot could be seen on an outdoor sunlit wall. This is scary.
Anyone caught lasing an aircraft on finals should be treated as a terrorist and locked up for ever, possibly longer, shot, stabbed, killed twice and then sent to bed without any TV.

A hand held ultrabright torch would be just as bad if not worse. I got zapped with the HIAL on 19 at BBN once during training. I could not see at all for about 10 seconds. VERY SCARY.

Or maybe the idiot could just stand on an overpass and zap cars and trucks to see how many he could cause to crash.


And for those who do not know what a cat R is:

I suspect they would argue sub(f) although its original intent was probably TASERs etc.

Thanks for the info. They would have to test the device before they even knew it got hot enough to cause bodily harm. Would they go that far?

[Green X]

It looks like it's just a 100W globed touch to me.

My mates has a Touch called a surefire I think it's called it's a HID touch, it's a bit bigger than a mini mag light and it easily out powers the big dolphin torches.

[RIPGMH]

Originally Posted by flappist

I saw a lot of 10mW green lasers for sale yesterday at Stanley Markets for $HK 198 ($AU25 or so). I tried one out and the green dot could be seen on an outdoor sunlit wall. This is scary.
Anyone caught lasing an aircraft on finals should be treated as a terrorist and locked up for ever, possibly longer, shot, stabbed, killed twice and then sent to bed without any TV.

A hand held ultrabright torch would be just as bad if not worse. I got zapped with the HIAL on 19 at BBN once during training. I could not see at all for about 10 seconds. VERY SCARY.

Or maybe the idiot could just stand on an overpass and zap cars and trucks to see how many he could cause to crash.


And for those who do not know what a cat R is:

I suspect they would argue sub(f) although its original intent was probably TASERs etc.

Lets not get carried away, its a torch.

[FordACE]

Originally Posted by RIPGMH

Lets not get carried away, its a torch.

yeah exactly, and there are hand held spotties brighter than it.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by RIPGMH

Lets not get carried away, its a torch.

Yes that is true. I am just saying be careful and make sure it is not a problem.
Better to be sure than sorry.
Customs/AFP go bezerk for all soerts of reasons. e.g. Those plastic toy guns you can buy over the counter all over the world, commonly known as Airsoft, are concidered real guns in Australia and will get you into all sorts of poo if you try to import one.

Also the laser that caused al the grief at the airport was "just a laser pointer".

Have fun with the torch.......

[StealthAu]

I saw a lot of 10mW green lasers for sale yesterday at Stanley Markets for $HK 198 ($AU25 or so). I tried one out and the green dot could be seen on an outdoor sunlit wall. This is scary.
Anyone caught lasing an aircraft on finals should be treated as a terrorist and locked up for ever, possibly longer, shot, stabbed, killed twice and then sent to bed without any TV.

A hand held ultrabright torch would be just as bad if not worse. I got zapped with the HIAL on 19 at BBN once during training. I could not see at all for about 10 seconds. VERY SCARY.

Or maybe the idiot could just stand on an overpass and zap cars and trucks to see how many he could cause to crash.


And for those who do not know what a cat R is:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Weapons Regs 1997
Each of the following is a category R weapon—
(a) a machine gun or submachine gun that is fully automatic
in its operation and actuated by energy developed when
it is being fired or has multiple revolving barrels, and
any replica or facsimile of a machine gun or submachine
gun that is not a toy;
(b) a unit or device that is capable of being used for
converting any firearm to a weapon mentioned in
paragraph (a);
(c) a firearm capable of firing 50 calibre BMG cartridge
ammunition;
(d) an antipersonnel gas, and an antipersonnel substance, of
a corrosive, noxious or irritant nature or that is capable
of causing bodily harm, and any weapon capable of
discharging the gas or substance by any means, other
than a gas or substance and any weapon capable of
discharging the gas or substance that is primarily
designed for the control of native or feral animals;
(e) an acoustical antipersonnel device of an intensity that is
capable of causing bodily harm;
(f) an electrical antipersonnel device of an intensity that is
capable of causing bodily harm;
(g) a hand grenade, other than an inert hand grenade, and an
antipersonnel mine;
(h) a silencer or other device or contrivance made or used,
or capable of being used or intended to be used, for
reducing the sound caused by discharging a firearm;
(i) a rocket launcher, recoilless rifle, antitank rifle, a
bazooka or a rocket propelled grenade type launcher;
(j) a mortar, all artillery and any incendiary or inflammable
device containing any substance capable of causing
bodily harm or damage to property, other than an
incendiary or inflammable device primarily designed for
vegetation management.



I suspect they would argue sub(f) although its original intent was probably TASERs etc.

I doubt this would be classed as a cat r weapon, a taser is a bit more intense, if someone hits you with one you’re on the ground. The torch produces heat, it doesn’t cause you to convulse preventing you from moving out of harms way. Besides that you can buy a flame torch at most hardware stores that have a 1300 deg c flame, these aren’t classed as weapons but can inflict injury instantly.

[ABoringUsername]

I'm glad you have $300 to spend on a torch....

[RIPGMH]

It was $400 by the time I got it here and the 15min battery life is an exageration but it is still worth it. I can create daylight with a switch, it is crazy. Its just a novelty thing but it reminds me of a helicopter search light.

[Zed7fiddy]

Originally Posted by Green X

It looks like it's just a 100W globed touch to me.

My mates has a Touch called a surefire I think it's called it's a HID touch, it's a bit bigger than a mini mag light and it easily out powers the big dolphin torches.

I have a similar brand, for only 100 bucks packs a mean punch, only downside is the batteries are 10 bucks each, it takes two, and they last 3 weeks :(

[FordACE]

Originally Posted by RIPGMH

It was $400 by the time I got it here and the 15min battery life is an exageration but it is still worth it. I can create daylight with a switch, it is crazy. Its just a novelty thing but it reminds me of a helicopter search light.

So how long does the battery last for? Would be cool torch to own

[Riksta]

Oh sweet, the site has blu-ray laser pointers.

When I get me a spare two grand I'll have to get one of them and a bunch of mirrors to create some insane show in my room!

And before somebody has a go at me, I do NOT want this to cause havoc with aircraft, just some cool indoor lighting effects. Unless the plane is inside my house, I don't think they would be affected by it.

[iCat]

yeah but can you chuck it in the yarra or in the beach like i can do with my everready dolphin huh?