NEW NSW RTA youth speeding ad

[xbgs351]

Don't you have to exceed the speed limit to speed?

[whiskieboy]

I do not know a single person that doesn't speed every time they drive a car. Even my 81yo grandmother does.[/QUOTE]

I certainly DONT !!! I make a point of sticking to the speed limit the main reason being I point blank refuse to give this goverment any more of my hard earned cash....
Just to let you know I've been driving for 32yrs and am yet to have any accidents, although I've been unlucky enough to have been a passenger too many times, and have broken bones to remind me.

[XR06T]

i speed every trip in a car i'd say. am i stupid because of this? i think not.

i can post pictures of every road i drive on to work and their speed limits and you can see for yourself what i am on about. a dead straight road, dual carriagway, probably 4 kms long, speed limit 80. no intersections on this road, but you can bet your bottom dollar that there is one speed camera on it a week. turn off that street onto a single lane each way road, with large trees lining each side of the road AND DRIVEWAYS, speed limit 90.

i drive at what i see as a safe limit to the conditions. whether that be the speed limit or not, i dont care. that is why i have a radar detector (they are legal here)

[DOC]

Originally Posted by Citric XR6

It wouldn't matter what sort of ads were on TV. EVERYONE will still speed and young blokes will still do burnouts etc etc. They can put whatever ads they like on but it wont make any difference.

I do not know a single person that doesn't speed every time they drive a car. Even my 81yo grandmother does.

[Orbit]

classic doc!!

[Falcon_Crazy]

I agree that the ad does not depict "speeding" (Do not get my started on the governments loose definition of "speeding"). It is more of a hoon ad and will have minimal impact.

It was like the last ad with the young bloke driving the AU Falcon Ute to a Powder figure song. The bigger problem in rural areas is alcohol and lack of seat belts. When Alcohol is involved, everything else (including speeding) is secondary.

Why are so many younger drivers dying today - what makes it dofferent to when i was 18 or any of us here. Is it the different cars they get now - my first car was an XF with 97kw, now they can pick up cheap AU and VNs with fuel injection and heaps more power? But power alone does not kill - Even a basic old Laser can reach 120km/h in a 60 zone.

They keep bringing in draconian laws, spend big $$ on ads yet where the hell is the education? I started driving on farms before I was 16. Wheni was 16 i would stay home all weekend for the chance to go for even the shortest of drives. I used to drive heaps of cars on my Ls, Falcons, 4WDs, manuals, autos, wagons, bombs of cars..It was all about gaining experience. Despite the 80km.h limit, Dad would take me on the Freeway without L plates and let me get to 100km/h - try getting an instructor to do that!

Fact is, I love driving and treat it as a privilege - I love my Ute and certainly know when and how to have fun in it. Id like to see more money spent on really teaching people ow to drive, reading traffic, defensive skills...and for gods sake, start early, especially with boys.

[FlipXW]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

Does this mean people who know they have big diccks can drive twice as fast?

[WAR40T]

saw the ad last nite my missus thought it was a ford ad when she seen the XR smoke it up.. was a pretty good smoke show. dont think it will make people slow down, i got pulled up this mornin by a cop on a bike after i took off from a set of lights, didnt break any laws by speeding or spinning the tyres so he couldnt get me for anything, and he knew that, its just that my exhaust noise got his attention.

[AWD Chaser]

So what about female drivers that speed? Do I still give em the pinky or do I cup my hands together and make a giant circle...

[poolkeeper]

Originally Posted by au3 chaser

So what about female drivers that speed? Do I still give em the pinky or do I cup my hands together and make a giant circle...

haha, lol
nar chicks dont speed...

[Fev]

man how dumped was that VL..wonder if it was an XR6T or just an Xr6...
its a cool add.. but what a ****in waste of money.. its a pity none of us are incharge of the RTA etc.. we do need better eductation, stricter license tests and compulsory advanced driver training as barely any young drivers know how to get a car back into control after they have lost it...

[stiddy]

Originally Posted by DOC

So what you are saying is no matter what kids are still going to speed and ignore the law ? or do you think the ad can be improved ? if so how.

I agree with Citric, there is nothing you can do to slow people down.
There will always be hoons, I dont care how many police, camera's, ad's, news reports or whatever these revenue raising fools come up with it wont slow people down.

Is there a fix? to put it simply NO.
Fines, loss of licence, impounded cars, its all just an inconvienience, its not going to stop people.

Take it to the track? YEAH works for about 4hrs, go to WSID and then when that finishes go for a drive down to Penrith Krispey Kremes.. you see more drag races on the great western highway than what you do at the drag strip.

Driving Courses? Woo hoo lets make these 'invincible' kids think they are even more invincible, they finish the course, think they are expert drivers and still hoon on the street because they have a certificate that states they can drive.

Do I have a suggestion? Nope.. because nothing will work. People will keep on dying on our roads from hooning and nothing will stop it, its the blunt, sad and honest truth.

Just quietly, its not just P platers either, go for a drive with a truckie or a towie.. then you can see what its really like. P platers just get more media attention.

[LukeyST]

Originally Posted by burnz

this might be the right idea.
hero to zero in 1/2 a second.
if it catches on like "not happy jan"

I agree with this, and i believe that this is what the creators of this ad are aiming for. If it does indeed catch on it may well do a good job, however, as many have already said, it may just add fuel to this never ending fire.

LukeyEL

[sleekism]

Simple solution MAKE IT COMPULSORY TO GET A MOTO LICENCE BEFORE U GET UR CAR LICENCE.

Probly only reason im still alive cos i got my bike liscence n learnt to keep da *** away from everyone else on da road and dat crashing hurts.

Seriously chiks love cars so wtf?

And why did the Dunnydoor passenger at the end no the drivers **** size?

Nufin suss!

[King Nothing]

Originally Posted by stiddy

I agree with Citric, there is nothing you can do to slow people down.
There will always be hoons, I dont care how many police, camera's, ad's, news reports or whatever these revenue raising fools come up with it wont slow people down.

Is there a fix? to put it simply NO.
Fines, loss of licence, impounded cars, its all just an inconvienience, its not going to stop people.

Take it to the track? YEAH works for about 4hrs, go to WSID and then when that finishes go for a drive down to Penrith Krispey Kremes.. you see more drag races on the great western highway than what you do at the drag strip.

Driving Courses? Woo hoo lets make these 'invincible' kids think they are even more invincible, they finish the course, think they are expert drivers and still hoon on the street because they have a certificate that states they can drive.

Do I have a suggestion? Nope.. because nothing will work. People will keep on dying on our roads from hooning and nothing will stop it, its the blunt, sad and honest truth.

Just quietly, its not just P platers either, go for a drive with a truckie or a towie.. then you can see what its really like. P platers just get more media attention.

So your suggestion is to just give up? :

I did a driver training course. It taught me to slow down. Sure, the moron in the 180sx with bald tyres might not have learnt anything, but a few of us did. So if driver training courses, adds on tv, whatever you do, stops even ONE person from being a tool on the road, it's worth it. I accept that it will never eradicate the problem, but you can mitigate the risks.

Who knows, instead of learning and slowing down, that one person may have hit the car your family was travelling in.

[stiddy]

Originally Posted by King Nothing

So your suggestion is to just give up? :

I did a driver training course. It taught me to slow down. Sure, the moron in the 180sx with bald tyres might not have learnt anything, but a few of us did. So if driver training courses, adds on tv, whatever you do, stops even ONE person from being a tool on the road, it's worth it. I accept that it will never eradicate the problem, but you can mitigate the risks.

Who knows, instead of learning and slowing down, that one person may have hit the car your family was travelling in.

Ok so you stop one idiot on the road it may be worth it, what about the new age idiots that just got their red P's..
Theres more idiots hitting the roads every week.. you stop one, but theres 5 new ones.. stop another one, theres another 5 new ones.
What I was getting at is that you cant eradicate the problem, Im not saying give up, im saying that whats being done at the moment isnt doing anything, there had to be another approach, which I and probably not many other people can come up with, OR it would have been done by now.
Ive done driving a few courses aswell.. it didnt really make all that much of a difference.. pretty much taught me and the poeple with me how to handle our cars thats about it.
Watching those same people after the course on a rainy day sideways at 130km/h on the M4. Like im saying it doesnt make much of a difference.

Works both ways mate, they could hit you and your family to.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by stiddy

Im not saying give up, im saying that whats being done at the moment isnt doing anything, there had to be another approach, which I and probably not many other people can come up with, OR it would have been done by now..

And thats why i asked the question what is that you guys would do, i also know it cant be 100% stopped but would like to think if people listened to some good suggestions then it would be a start.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by King Nothing

So your suggestion is to just give up? :

I'd rather them not bother at all and save the money if this is the crap they spew out to be perfectly honest.

[stiddy]

Originally Posted by DOC

And thats why i asked the question what is that you guys would do, i also know it cant be 100% stopped but would like to think if people listened to some good suggestions then it would be a start.

Im listening but they aren't good suggestions.
I honestly dont know what to do or suggest... I dont think anyone really does, and those that have an idea, it really makes no difference.

Theres silly amounts of laws.. a new one being P platers cant have passengers between certain times.
All that is doing, is rather than more people in one car, its puts more cars on the road in a group. Which causes more drink driving, more street racing and more accidents.
P platers for x amount of years.. so what?
Loose your licence for 3 months, so what? people still drive unlicenced, and if they dont after 3 months they get all their points back anyway.
I went to court over a driving offence, there was a guy there that had lost his licence till 2018.. he drove away from the court after his trial.
Bigger $$ fines.. so? they go broke for a couple of weeks paying it, after that?
Already been over the driving course idea in my previous post.


Maybe they should take all the new drivers through the hospital ward to see/talk to people that have been really badly injured from accidents to show them they arent invincible and its quite easily to end up next to them in a hospital bed.
Might work for a few months, then it gets put to the back of their minds, they forget about it, and next thing you see they are around a pole on channel 7 news.

I just dont know.

[TEaaron]

I feel like doing a burnout after watching that add.

[Airmon]

I showed this to a bunch of my mates (of whom are all P-Platers, Including myself) and its just a dead set ****er. Funniest thing I've seen in a while. The look on the BA Drivers face is classic haha. And I tell you what, the blokes in the backseat of the VL would have been the one telling the drive to get her sideways "Pull the handbrake!", its one I get a fair bit.
My brother had a VL on his Ps, it ended up around a pole, but it didn't change a thing. He still thinks its fine to fang his Supercharged Commo around in the wet on bald tyres, what makes these pencil pushing ********* think that ad will have any effect on P-Platers?
Ads wont do a thing, if they survive an accident they might be lucky enough to recieve some sort of a clue, if not, well then nothing will.
I suppose I'm just lucky I can learn from some of my close mates mistakes.

[FRDGAL]

Originally Posted by krt10

most of you would have seen this one. but its much more hard hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhv6fSdz7vk

would most probably get banned if it were aired here though

Those are the kind of in your face shock value commercials we need, not pinkie ads. As if guys in a back seat of a VL would sit there pinkie'ing the driver. They would have loved it and been egging him on and we all know it.

I think the only thing that will come out of the ad is that the pinkie may become a joking trend. Mates out hooning for a night will bag out the driver in a "kidding" way giving him the pinkie. Waste of tax payers money! Commercials with more of a shock value may have a better chance at atleast making speeders think of the consequences of their actions, but giving someone the "pinkie" .... for gods sake _

First speed cameras save lives. Now pinkie's will too :

[ltd]

Well congrats Road Tax Authority, you have just set yourself a dangerous precedent. I saw a lebbo guy chase after a woman when she did that to him on Parramatta Road near Bunnings last night. Myself and three other people got out to stop him. But imagine if someone is savagely beaten as a result of this commercial; it's basically asking people to ridicule the bad behaviour of people they don't know, and is surely going to result in assaults and massive law suits. What next? Are we going to commence hurling abuse at all and sundry or are we just going to fill the hospitals up with victim of "Pinkie Rage"?
IMO one of the dumbest executions of a message, the whole RTA managment should be sacked.

[colossus]

Originally Posted by ltd

Well congrats Road Tax Authority, you have just set yourself a dangerous precedent. I saw a lebbo guy chase after a woman when she did that to him on Parramatta Road near Bunnings last night. Myself and three other people got out to stop him. But imagine if someone is savagely beaten as a result of this commercial; it's basically asking people to ridicule the bad behaviour of people they don't know, and is surely going to result in assaults and massive law suits. What next? Are we going to commence hurling abuse at all and sundry or are we just going to fill the hospitals up with victim of "Pinkie Rage"?
IMO one of the dumbest executions of a message, the whole RTA managment should be sacked.

All it takes is two or three written complaints to the advertising standards board to get it pulled - Scruby does it all the time...

BTW I swear the guy driving the VL is Bodie from Big Brother...

[FRDGAL]

Originally Posted by ltd

Well congrats Road Tax Authority, you have just set yourself a dangerous precedent. I saw a lebbo guy chase after a woman when she did that to him on Parramatta Road near Bunnings last night. Myself and three other people got out to stop him. But imagine if someone is savagely beaten as a result of this commercial; it's basically asking people to ridicule the bad behaviour of people they don't know, and is surely going to result in assaults and massive law suits. What next? Are we going to commence hurling abuse at all and sundry or are we just going to fill the hospitals up with victim of "Pinkie Rage"?
IMO one of the dumbest executions of a message, the whole RTA managment should be sacked.

I agree 100% with that. And it's so very true. The whole "pinkie" thing will cause alot of agro. As if road rage isn't bad enough, we need this to stir it up even more?!!

The other problem I have with that ad is that it only features male drivers. What about the women? There are idiotic women out there who use our roads as a race track aswell. It's not always just the guys. Why aren't women also being targeted? Awwww couldn't they come up with an equally ridiculous hand gesture for the lady hoons aswell _

Yeah fair enough, the majority are male when it comes to hooning BUT women are hoons aswell. And so are oldies. I see plenty of them on the road. These ads should not be biased and leaning towards young men only. If the government are really concerned about this issue then A) improve the ads and B) target ALL sexes and ALL ages! I don't care what statistics say. Hoons come in all ages. Make everyone see sense, not just the young.

Stupid ad. That's it from me :

[The Yeti]

what I find mildly amusing (black humor I guess), every one says it's not gona work the ad sucks people will always drif do burn outs speed etc, yet speak to any one who has fucl<ed up and drifted 'said' car into a bloody big tree, power pole, fence, house, hurting a mate if there lucky) will tell you they were tool's fo doing it.

a post earlier in this thread said, its a fact of life people will drive fast people will crash and people will die, how you you feel if it were YOU who were driving fast, crash and your mate dies????? you probably wont I guess not till it happes (which I hope it doesnt), but this is the thought prosess that need changing

This is a discussion formum, so lets discuss, what would stop people form being tool's on our roads? every one likes cars here and I guess we are the type of people shows like ACA and today tonight like to lable 'Hoon's and Hot roders' so what will work

[colossus]

Originally Posted by The Yeti

This is a discussion formum, so lets discuss, what would stop people form being tool's on our roads?

If by tools you mean hoons - then nothing. I firmly agree with the previous poster. It is about IQ, clever people can figure out they will die sooner or later by hooning on a public road due to the unpredictability of conditions, dumb people don't. Darwin at his best.

PS - I am not referring to speeding here that IMO is a whole other topic.

[Vdouw]

It makes me feel like a ****a but thats only if you care what other people think of you... the problem is more independant people who do what they like with out worrying what every else thinks

[Vdouw]

Originally Posted by colossus

If by tools you mean hoons - then nothing. I firmly agree with the previous poster. It is about IQ, clever people can figure out they will die sooner or later by hooning on a public road due to the unpredictability of conditions, dumb people don't. Darwin at his best.

PS - I am not referring to speeding here that IMO is a whole other topic.

Yea true but then you have those with the IQ that realise that they limit their time on this planet then go "eh gotta die some time"...

If you could only get it that sideways in the VL you deserve to cop the pinky. lol

Seriously, I think this is the best way to go about tacking dangerous driving as opposed to more speed cameras, changing driving age to 18 etc, defect stations. It appeals to many audiences and actually gets noticed. It also has the ability to curb stupid driving without a police car pulling you over.