Street racers arrested in Canada.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Where did you find the quote in your post, and who said it?

On that link you posted that was direct to the YouTube vid .

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

On that link you posted that was direct to the YouTube vid .

No worries, I found it. My bad.

Most of the comments beneath these clips are usually garbage.

Cheers

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

No worries, I found it. My bad.

Most of the comments beneath these clips are usually garbage.

Cheers

I'd say its not a case of what comment is garbage, rather what comment isn't garbage. YouTube is great for keyboard warriors! :

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by brodfloyd

one point i'd also like to raise.

it shows the difference between the top and the bottom end of the "hoon" market.

These guys take expensive exotic cars that were made to go fast, stop fast and turn well. They travel hourse for a blast, do stupid speeds, YES. but, the travelled way way way out of town on a piece of road they had checked out beforehand. Did u see any trees or people or houses close to the road? no. was the car full of their mates? no.

So you worked all that out on a few minutes of footage did you, guess that makes you an expert! I used to live in that provence, and let me tell you a few things. Highways and country roads dont just travel off towards the horizons, they go to towns and citys. Highways and country roads in the early mornings are not deserted, at that time of the morning you have Farmers moving combine harvesters, heavy trucks, school buses. There are farms everywhere in alberta along these types of roads. Farm dogs, kids, livestock, not to mention the native animals, porcupines, skunks, moose, deer, wolves, bears you name it. No less than 4 times have I had a near miss with a moose on alberta roads at early morning, and countless near misses with wolves and porcupines, and that was at 100kph, try it at 300kph and see how you fare.

stupidity is stupidity, regardless of the brand of car.

[brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

So you worked all that out on a few minutes of footage did you, guess that makes you an expert! I used to live in that provence, and let me tell you a few things. Highways and country roads dont just travel off towards the horizons, they go to towns and citys. Highways and country roads in the early mornings are not deserted, at that time of the morning you have Farmers moving combine harvesters, heavy trucks, school buses. There are farms everywhere in alberta along these types of roads. Farm dogs, kids, livestock, not to mention the native animals, porcupines, skunks, moose, deer, wolves, bears you name it. No less than 4 times have I had a near miss with a moose on alberta roads at early morning, and countless near misses with wolves and porcupines, and that was at 100kph, try it at 300kph and see how you fare.

stupidity is stupidity, regardless of the brand of car.

Whilst i agree with all of the assertions in your post, I beg you to give me break mate. I have had previous conversations with you before and every time you respond to a post of mine it is to rebutt me by being superior and belittling me and my opinions and also attributing opinions to me that I do not have and further rebutting and belittling me. you are a highly valued forum member with lots of experience and knowlege which many people including I rely on. But superior attitude, sly put downs and patronising words discourage me and others greatly and disenchant and discrourage them from contributing their different and also valuable opinions to our forum.

Trolling through peoples posts to put them down does not serve any positive purpose to anyone. There is far too much of it on this forum from not just yourself but others.

Just because you lived in the provence doesnt make you an expert either??? There are native animals, school children, farmers and machinery pretty much everywhere in the western world in rural environments. There is nothing exclusive about those things to alberta that we wouldnt find in australia to be very similar or the same. Now, snow or ice etc would be different, but clearly these are not a factor in this case.

I was not praising their actions, as they are stupid and very unsafe for all the reasons you mentioned and many more. i was saying that it was less stupid than those who do it in unsafe vehicles, in urban areas, with passengers, when they do not know the conditions of the road and its surrounds that they will be hooning in and through.

Even doing highspeed runs in legal places such as airfields, private roads and purpose built race facilities are also exposed to many of the same risks from stray animals and freak occurences that you mentioned. Nowhere is completely safe and risk free, minimization of risk is all that anyone can do and the setting of lowest risk is the racetrack, with its rules regulations, facilities and more.

I did this to hypothetically ask the question about higher Vs lower socioeconomic brackets approach to doing stupid things like this with the implied assertion that the higher the socioeconomic bracket, the lower the chance of "hoon" behaviour occuring or if "hooning", the risks to the driver, passengers and people/property outside the car when law breaking "hoon" behaviour is performed.

The point i made was that these men were minimizing the risks they were taking, but just like harm minimization with heroin addicts, it doesnt make it a good idea or a sensible thing to do. I didnt elaborate that because i thought it was a given that everyone would think of such excessive speed in road cars without medical crews on standby and safety procedures on a proper road etc as a very risky and silly activity. I did not call for them to be let off or imply that the ramifications of any mishap or accident would be any less serious or dangerous in either scenario.

These people were all alone in their cars, some did wear a helmet and racing suit. on a very quiet piece of straight and good conditioned road. The cars looked to be well maintained, in good condition, were recently new models and looked to be in roadworthy condition. They were operated by people who looked to be familiar with such vehicles and had some level of performance driving experience. The film was taken very early in the morning, not long after sunrise, so whilst there was good visability, its all the time when its likely to be less chance of animals roaming as animals are likely to be less active at this time. Their was good visability along the road so that many animals, people or other obstructions could be seen from far away and there were other vehicles and people from their video crew looking out and filming at different points along their route who also would have been able to try and warn/avert trouble if neccisary. The roads were all deserted in the footage we saw and the surrounding paddocks also provided good visability. Whether they did all these things consciously or not, they minimized the risks of doing 300kmph signifcantly.

For these reasons i came to the conclusion that whilst still an illegal and anacceptable risk, it was far less of a risk than many people that the media, government and police have drawn to the public's attention recently, take.

Now, judging by previous form, my post will be disected and rebutted by yourself and those alligned with your way of thinking labelling me stupid, a hypocrit and unskilled in such areas of knowledge.

(flame suit on)

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by brodfloyd

Whilst i agree with all of the assertions in your post, I beg you to give me break mate. I have had previous conversations with you before and every time you respond to a post of mine it is to rebutt me by being superior and belittling me and my opinions and also attributing opinions to me that I do not have and further rebutting and belittling me. you are a highly valued forum member with lots of experience and knowlege which many people including I rely on. But superior attitude, sly put downs and patronising words discourage me and others greatly and disenchant and discrourage them from contributing their different and also valuable opinions to our forum.

Trolling through peoples posts to put them down does not serve any positive purpose to anyone. There is far too much of it on this forum from not just yourself but others.

Just because you lived in the provence doesnt make you an expert either??? There are native animals, school children, farmers and machinery pretty much everywhere in the western world in rural environments. There is nothing exclusive about those things to alberta that we wouldnt find in australia to be very similar or the same. Now, snow or ice etc would be different, but clearly these are not a factor in this case.

I was not praising their actions, as they are stupid and very unsafe for all the reasons you mentioned and many more. i was saying that it was less stupid than those who do it in unsafe vehicles, in urban areas, with passengers, when they do not know the conditions of the road and its surrounds that they will be hooning in and through.

Even doing highspeed runs in legal places such as airfields, private roads and purpose built race facilities are also exposed to many of the same risks from stray animals and freak occurences that you mentioned. Nowhere is completely safe and risk free, minimization of risk is all that anyone can do and the setting of lowest risk is the racetrack, with its rules regulations, facilities and more.

I did this to hypothetically ask the question about higher Vs lower socioeconomic brackets approach to doing stupid things like this with the implied assertion that the higher the socioeconomic bracket, the lower the chance of "hoon" behaviour occuring or if "hooning", the risks to the driver, passengers and people/property outside the car when law breaking "hoon" behaviour is performed.

The point i made was that these men were minimizing the risks they were taking, but just like harm minimization with heroin addicts, it doesnt make it a good idea or a sensible thing to do. I didnt elaborate that because i thought it was a given that everyone would think of such excessive speed in road cars without medical crews on standby and safety procedures on a proper road etc as a very risky and silly activity. I did not call for them to be let off or imply that the ramifications of any mishap or accident would be any less serious or dangerous in either scenario.

These people were all alone in their cars, some did wear a helmet and racing suit. on a very quiet piece of straight and good conditioned road. The cars looked to be well maintained, in good condition, were recently new models and looked to be in roadworthy condition. They were operated by people who looked to be familiar with such vehicles and had some level of performance driving experience. The film was taken very early in the morning, not long after sunrise, so whilst there was good visability, its all the time when its likely to be less chance of animals roaming as animals are likely to be less active at this time. Their was good visability along the road so that many animals, people or other obstructions could be seen from far away and there were other vehicles and people from their video crew looking out and filming at different points along their route who also would have been able to try and warn/avert trouble if neccisary. The roads were all deserted in the footage we saw and the surrounding paddocks also provided good visability. Whether they did all these things consciously or not, they minimized the risks of doing 300kmph signifcantly.

For these reasons i came to the conclusion that whilst still an illegal and anacceptable risk, it was far less of a risk than many people that the media, government and police have drawn to the public's attention recently, take.

Now, judging by previous form, my post will be disected and rebutted by yourself and those alligned with your way of thinking labelling me stupid, a hypocrit and unskilled in such areas of knowledge.

(flame suit on)

yeah ok

[brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

yeah ok

hahaha, thats gold, i also need a hotwater bottle and some carefrees

[tex]

Ah now I get it, sour bastard and brodfloyd must be married.

Any relationship has it's ups and downs....

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by tex

Ah now I get it, sour bastard and brodfloyd must be married.

Any relationship has it's ups and downs....

you can be the flower girl

[james22]

ffs grow up guys. Every since i joined i've watched this forum go down hill a lot in terms of quality and behaviour. You small amount of larrakins dont need to (insert chosen obscenity here) it for everyone else who uses and respects this site properly.

I can hear the keyboards clicking with re-buttals now lol, I know i only have a mere 700 posts compared some of you guys out there, but you would think that some of you adults might actually act your age. It seems strange that no one opens their trap like this, face to face at an AFF day?

[Fev]

christ, hitting a moose would be almost the same as hitting a mack truck at those speeds

oh and i meant 180, my bad..



those guys dont even come close to the hoonage of ghost rider though.. man hes good lol.. sitting backwards on his bike at 110 in front of the cop behind him stickin both fingers up at them lol