VFACTS April 05

[paul7v7]

Originally Posted by RATT

Rick honestly without having a go at you this question was asked back in January and the same answer was given. SWB FPV's outsold HSV SWB sedans since December so those 35 cars, of which some were already registered as demos, would not have had any major impact. And if they did it would have been up until January only.

Why is it so hard to believe that FPV is outselling HSV?

i agree 100%.
Whether it is 100 cars they registered or 5 they still will be sold anyway. I am sure HSV do the same thing. How many commodores (brand new) are sitting in dealers for ages, but they're considered a sale. I think some people need to get a grip and accept the fact that FPV finally out sold HSV. With only 3 models too and 600cc less :P

[Polyal]

Very good.

What are the ute figures?

From what I heard we outsold them, but Im not sure if that includes the crewman or not. Anyone?

[JR.]

Ute figures for both makes were in my first post

Ford Falcon Ute 1382
Holden Utility 4X2 1240

Pursuit ute had its best month ever at 37 units too.

[JR.]

Breaking down Ford vs Holden sales category by category shows that apart from superior Commodore and Astra sales compared to Falcon and Focus, that Holden gains a lead in the number of incremental niche products it sells

The figures below are straight segment by segment comparisons of the April figures


Ford Fiesta - 395
Holden Barina - 736
Advantage HOLDEN +341

No competitor - 0
Holden Combo - 111
Advantage HOLDEN +111

No competitor - 0
Holden Cruze - 199
Advantage HOLDEN +199

Ford Focus - 559
Holden Astra - 2846
Advantage HOLDEN +2287

No competitor - 0
Holden Astra Convertible - 93
Advantage HOLDEN +93

No competitor - 0
Holden Zafira - 62
Advantage HOLDEN +62

Ford Escape - 219
No competitor - 0
Advantage FORD +219

No competitor - 0
Holden Vectra (4 cyl) - 159
Advantage HOLDEN +159

No competitor - 0
Holden Vectra CDX - 99
Advantage HOLDEN +99

Ford Falcon - 4174
Holden Commodore - 5773
Advantage HOLDEN +1599

Ford Falcon Ute - 1382
Holden Utility 4X2 - 1240
Advantage FORD +142

No competitor - 0
Holden Utility 4X4 - 79
Advantage HOLDEN +79

Ford Territory - 2093
Holden Adventra - 56
Holden Jackaroo - 5
Advantage FORD +2032


Ford Fairlane - 169
Holden Statesman - 235
Advantage HOLDEN +66

Ford LTD - 35
Holden Caprice - 49
Advantage HOLDEN +14

No competitor - 0
Holden Monaro - 198
Advantage HOLDEN +198

Ford Explorer - 42
No competitor - 0
Advantage FORD +42

Ford Courier 4X2 - 303
Holden Rodeo 4X2 - 1367
Advantage HOLDEN +1064

Ford Courier 4X4 - 377
Holden Rodeo 4X4 - 911
Advantage HOLDEN +534

Ford Econovan - 34
No competitor - 0
Advantage FORD +34

Ford F250/F350 - 193
No competitor - 0
Advantage FORD +193

Ford Transit - 318
No competitor - 0
Advantage FORD +318

TOTAL Ford - 10293
TOTAL Holden – 14218
Advantage HOLDEN +3925

[Polyal]

jeez thats a caining!

Just about every car is getting spanked, why is the feista doing so badly, it kills the barina in every aspect!

There are so many suprises there, I didn't know we sold so many F trucks, and explorers; who the heck buys them!

And how do they move Cruzes and Combo's? Holden must be ****ed ove rthe crewman sales aswell. Alot of investment in that car and its not selling that well at all.

With Fiesta it's a combination of supply, price and marketing. And the initial forcast was for about 400 units a month, so it's doing ok.

[JR.]

In defense of Focus too, I think the launch of the new model at MMS and supply of current model vehicles may have been drying up as the new model ramp up gains momentum and this would have effected sales.

[Teki04]

But there are discounts on the Current Focus... which has never really done that well here in regards to sales figures compared to the Astra. Also, in regards to Fiesta.... my mate just bought a Barina... parents were able to get an AWESOME price on it... $13990+ORC, but they managed to get better then that....

[MITCHAY]

You would think that ford would develop a two door coupe to compete with the monaro and FPV would want to contest the GTO and GTS sales. If they did then they could possibly race them.

[JR.]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

You would think that ford would develop a two door coupe to compete with the monaro and FPV would want to contest the GTO and GTS sales. If they did then they could possibly race them.

If Holden hadn't been able to secure the 18,000 estimated sales to the USA of Monaro as the Pontiac GTO I doubt that it would have happened at all (And as it is they don't sell that well and they're exporting to other markets to take up the slack).

Considering that 19,559 Mustangs were sold in April in the USA (which is more for 1 car than entire market leader Toyota's sales for the month in Australia), what use would they have for a 2 door Falcon.

As much as I'd like to see one myself, even I agree when Ford say there just isn't a sensible business case to support such a niche model.

[GTP 320]

Originally Posted by rick69

That is my point..... Thats 35 sales that shouldn't really count as genuine sales.

Who said that they count as genuine sales.
Cheers John

[csv8]

One of those 395 Fiestas is MINE !!! Brilliant car !! Has 1.6l engine Barina 1.4l.
FORD needs a totally new marketing division. "You'd be popular too" WTF !!
Ford America has "BUILT FOR THE ROAD AHEAD" Why doesn't Ford OZ use that slogan????????

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by csv8

Ford America has "BUILT FOR THE ROAD AHEAD" Why doesn't Ford OZ use that slogan????????

AGREED!!!!!!!!!

[Franky]

considering they are the 3rd most popular car in OZ that slogan is sh*t and obviously is not effective. I like the slogan 'lion tamer' but it's not used often enough

[BOSS 540]

I like "Still the Boss". Sorry Ford I havn't helped with the figures since the AU2 days, I got the XR 2nd hand.