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30-03-2023, 11:10 AM | #31 | |||
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You sound like the bloke I've spoken to saying the Ecoboost doesn't belong in the Mustang, I'm getting that vibe. 2022 Ranger 2.0 BT towing review
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30-03-2023, 12:21 PM | #32 | |||
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I'll also note in another test I linked in here in another thread, Carexperts towing test, all the 4 cylinder utes failed the test. ALL of them. |
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30-03-2023, 01:17 PM | #33 | |||
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Just remember going back to the 70's and 80's, when towing a couple of tonnes with a Falcon or Kingswood flat out making about 300nm from a straight 6 was the norm. |
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31-03-2023, 10:26 AM | #34 | |||
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31-03-2023, 11:55 AM | #35 | ||
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IMO horse's for course's.....no point going on against it it suits others wants and needs.
No diff back in our Falcon days, 6 or 8 and there was always mine better or more suitable for eg..... We got what we got Franco, you or I are not the customer.
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31-03-2023, 01:15 PM | #36 | ||
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I think its a good debate and enjoy talking about it, I find it interesting amongst different generations.
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31-03-2023, 02:52 PM | #37 | ||
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Dont forget the big selling 4cyl falcon....
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31-03-2023, 04:07 PM | #38 | |||
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To me they should simplify the range, BTD becomes the base engine and V6 is for the high spec vehicles (or optional on 'work pack' ones) **** off the single turbo variant in the povvo specs. I don't understand the mentality about people who want less |
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31-03-2023, 04:13 PM | #39 | |||
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Wheels barely rated it much better than the rubbish chinese utes, but at least they are cheap. |
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31-03-2023, 05:29 PM | #40 | |||
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I think its great we have the choice TBH....
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31-03-2023, 05:40 PM | #41 | |||
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31-03-2023, 06:50 PM | #42 | |||
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For instance Gold Coast Council run a number of Ng Rangers suspect these would be single turbo. |
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03-04-2023, 10:42 AM | #43 | |||
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While not listed in any spec sheet, towing ease and that more relaxed feel from the drivers seat between the two, V6 vs Biturbo, will always favour the V6 which must count a lot for overall driver experience and more relaxed driving while heavy towing. The more comfortable a driver is while heavy towing the safer they are. Once towing over 2 tonnes the V6 has the towing ease that all competitors can only dream of including little brother 2.0 Biturbo. |
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04-04-2023, 09:56 AM | #45 | |||
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04-04-2023, 10:46 AM | #46 | |||
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So why the single turbo 2L engine? Not befitting of it's premium marketing. |
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04-04-2023, 12:51 PM | #47 | ||
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It wasn't a Ranger or even a Ford, it was a last of the series Mazda van which I think weighed about 1500kg and the towing load was about 1200kg which I think might have been at it's max limit, however it was woefully underpowered. So today when I tow loads (8x200L) including trailer of about 2200kg I also have about 900Kg in the van and enough power to make sure things stay under control.
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04-04-2023, 12:53 PM | #48 | ||
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Ironically I have a base model dual cab single turbo Ranger as a loan vehicle as I type while having our Transit Custom Van serviced...haven't driven it yet...
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04-04-2023, 01:34 PM | #49 | |||
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Also in Carexperts towing test with all the Thailand Specials, all the four cylinder heroes failed the towing test and everything sans the American utes were getting pushed around by a 2500kg caravan on the road test. They need to promote gooseneck/5th wheel caravans and trailers once you start getting to 2500kg I reckon. |
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04-04-2023, 04:31 PM | #50 | ||
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Would really like to hear your thoughts on the single turbo 2.0 engine.
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04-04-2023, 04:48 PM | #52 | ||
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Are you talking about the XL 4x2?
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This Ranger XL single turbo engine has the same specs as the current Transit Custom @125kW/405Nm and had 7000km on the odo. First off initial impression knowing I was getting into the base model was, it’s high, has a strong side step…and once inside.. this thing DOESN”T feel like a base model. It’s obviously not a Wildtrak but you don’t see lots of blank plastic fillers which usually constantly reminds you of the missing switchgear found in the higher grade models. Yes the dash and trim surfaces are hard plastic but unlike motor reviewers, I don’t drive massaging my cars trim surfaces repeatedly. I prefer to receive massages from lovely, well trained professionals…This loaner had the full safety suite, reverse camera and sensors. I believe it also had auto brake to avoid a collision when reversing as well which in a commercial vehicle is an absolute must imho. Centre screen image was sharp with a fairly good quality picture and better than our Custom and Territory and maybe not quite as high a resolution as then screen in my Vito, but it’s only 8” so not this large either . A couple of times the front collision alert went off, not because I was in “Tradie Tailgate Mode TTM)” rather the idiots in front suddenly braked, indicated afterwards and turned left each time. Seating position was quite comfortable, although a long drive will confirm this. The digital dash cluster is a surprising bonus and I could have the digital speed showing with a 4 panel trip computer to the right at the same time in the main centre section and then the fuel and temp gauges sat at the extreme right and left respectively. I don’t think the previous Ranger had this display flexibility. All were easily legible. The centre screen, while not the biggest in the Ranger range definitely is more than enough as it’s clear and sharp. I didn’t notice any screen lag however I was using my phones Waze App for navigation as there was not an inbuilt version. This Ranger grade uses the previous models auto gear selector, which is the same as our vans with the dumb buttons for manual selection…paddle shifters needed please here, especially when activating TTM. No issue with Apple CarPlay although I plugged the phone in using a usb cable then later I noticed when playing with the vehicle’s settings in the centre screen there seems to be a wireless connection option available. Didn’t spot any wireless phone charging. I felt the ride was better then I expected, not as smooth as a car but it was well planted, and it didn’t bounce around as much as I would have expected for a completely empty double cab pick-up body. Surely it will only ride better with a load in the back. As soon as I got back into my Transit Custom it was louder, definitely not as refined or as smooth engine-wise as the Ranger and not as trigger-like on the throttle which in a back-to-back comparison is far better calibrated in the Ranger because it makes for a smoother drive. Probably my best thoughts would be if I had the base model Ranger it’s a damn good vehicle, one that doesn’t hit you in the face as being the lower spec grade. Yes it costs more than the base models of it’s competitors but frankly if you can afford it and you will be in it for long periods then it’s extra money worth spending because it's a far better product. I would try and buy a Wildtrak V6 because that’s me….and I can finance it through my work…etc… However an XL Ranger single turbo for most work is more than enough. If you’re going to tow heavier loads regularly, in my opinion more power makes for easier/safer driving so the BiTurbo would be obviously better. I did gun it once or twice, it's not a rocket, I expected that and it was empty but its not a slug either again in most situations would be ok unless you are starting to get higher payloads I'd assume. You don’t lose driving a new gen XL Ranger….it’s a great vehicle, really well thought out by the local Ford people. Last edited by Dr Smith; 04-04-2023 at 07:07 PM. |
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05-04-2023, 11:11 AM | #57 | |||
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It's the Amarok that is the one that is the most premium priced, being 3k or so more than the others. |
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05-04-2023, 01:12 PM | #58 | ||
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Have you driven a current Ranger over a long period of time?
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