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First the Jap trucks took out the Pom trucks Then the Jap trucks took out any Aus and USA trucks except Acco Acco finally died Look how poorly the Euro s do in the low weight segments It’s all about reliability and cost of ownership |
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![]() Exactly like Holden and the ZB 'Commodore'. F600 would be good for all the lighter tilt tray/tilt slides/tipper and that sort of thing ![]() https://www.ford.com/commercial-truc...odels/f600-xl/ Starts at $57K USD, diesel one has 1300NM on par with E6 ACCO. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 19-11-2023 at 08:03 PM. |
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Guess yeah the tow operators might go for those have one or two in their fleet for image reasons |
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We did a month in 2011 in Vancouver as a family snow/Christmas holiday with the mums and the kids, got a (then new model) Grand Cherokee as the LHD hire car, and it was really quite nice. Light steering, solid feel, easy to park. I kept reaching for the seatbelt in the middle of the car.
The whole car culture there was exciting, all the big F150 trucks, the massive Escalades and Expeditions. Canada is a snowy place so AWD was important. So I look at the new Grand Cherokee range, which is on sale in Oz and (hold reliability/depreciation/not a Cruiser/price is up/interior not solid! aside) and it seems they've created and marketed a really competitive product. If you just want a big wagon you get the Night Hawk L, you get AWD with this and decent length in the car. As you go up the range you get offroad goodies like dual range transfers, air suspension, locking diffs, electronic diffs... as much or little as you want, and it all looks pretty plush and comfortable. Petrol 6 (the Pentastar gets everything from 'shocking plastic parts pos' to 'best and most economical, reliable 6 I ever owned' - and it's still port injected in 2023 - yay). I enjoyed driving the early version hire car Pentastar back in 2011 - torquey, the gearbox would drop early and it would glide around town at just over 1000 revs. There's also a PHEV version so you can have some LWB F Off Americana in Oz at 3.2L/100km, but it seems at a price currently. Here's the entry model: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...22415988/?Cr=0 No affiliation with Jeep, haha, just want a petrol 6 AWD and surprised I found these. Haven't had a Mopar since my $800 VG Valiant unlicenced coupe back in the 90s.
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Still doesn't look like they care about making a centre console for RHD despite the electric park brake either.
Are there many others that don't do this? ![]()
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Cabovers are king. Hence why the Jap trucks are so popular as tilt trays in and around cities. Yanks love their huge hoods and uselessly long wheelbases on trucks that have half the payload capacity of ours. Only got to look at their 250in WB 389 Peterbilt's pulling one trailer. They talk of 50 000lb being a large load.
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2 F150's 2020 and 2023(current) and Still have a 2018 FN Mustang GT. My experience would suggest that the American built fords have been more reliable and trouble free. Sure, nothing is 100% perfect, but better than some of the Falcon's i've owned. Maybe i'm the exception to the norm. Owned a few Euro's -Now thats very Hit and Miss. You luck out or you don't..
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Maybe we exclude 4495kg because they're technically not 'trucks'. Aren't their HCs limited to 36 tonnes/80,000lbs by law? If so of course their perspectives are going to be different than ours. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-11-2023 at 11:54 PM. |
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If he's talking GCM it would be more like a Falcon towing a box trailer.
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yes, but there are plenty of 2-3T cabover Jap trucks in that category. My small one for instance tares @ 1500kg.
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I honestly don't know what he is talking about, I guess he'll be here later to tell me.
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My Vic rego's papers still state Ford tray truck under 4.495T. Mazda pantec truck under 4.495T.
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'Heavy vehicles' start at 4500kg Franco. 'Trucks' can be under that I reckon, My Mitso Canter pantec has a 4495kg GVM and is listed as a truck by Qld Transport. I'd struggle to refer to it as a ute!
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I'd really like to see the F150 do well in Australia, but I just don't think that it will. Harrisons in Melton have been converting these things for decades and have sold plenty of them, although, in my opinion, many potential buyers of these "myself included" are not going to like "any" V6, regardless of how powerful Ford claim it to be. I bought a new DT RAM Laramie two years ago and it's an awesome bit of gear. Replacement cost for the Laramie is around $150 on the road and after seeing the interior and specs of the new F150, I'm not even going to bother looking at one. I'll be swapping my RAM next year for another, although, the next one will be a Limited as the options that I got on my Laramie are no longer available. Ford should be able to get people from a Ranger into one but I can't see many people who have a Silverado jumping the fence and Ford would probably have more luck brokering a peace deal in the middle east than getting any RAM owners to walk into their dealership.
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with so many lunatic drivers over there brake checking Semis as if that’s ever justified, the country is full of angry knuckleheads that want to vent while driving… In contrast, I think Canada permits multi trailers with similar restriction to Australia, your point about cab overs is valid but I often wondered if having the front axle under the cab made for a more bouncy ride on rough roads but the trade off with long hood long wheelbase is just terrible when it comes to backing and manoeuvring, anyone stuck with a hood truck will soon be disappointed with the shortcomings…. |
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None of this explains the super long wheelbase Pete's that are stupidly stretched to 300 in WB's. Back in the day those same stretched prime movers had a useful drom (Dromodary) box behind the cab for extra freight space but went out of fashion with the new steering wheel attendants. ![]() Only reason hoods are popular there is manufacturers don't build what owner want, sound familiar, FORD. The Yanks are just dying to get their hands on K220's but Oz won't export them.
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I've never been happy with existing sales figures, celebrate your wins but it can always be more looking at different avenues and opportunities. |
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From my experience Australian drivers are far worse than yank drivers. Yes the Yanks drive fast but they also give each other room. They accept someone may want to travel at 80 miles an hour in a 65 zone and let people past. Contrast that to Australia where every driver thinks I’m doing 100 kmh so nobody has the right to pass. The yanks will also let you merge onto a freeway instead of speeding up simply to block you. But I only drove in California and Hawaii. Maybe it’s different in other states. |
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