Classic Falcon vs Classic Mustang

[au2000]

Xr every day of the week..
Yeah im one of those very rare ones who has no interest in a mustang really

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Originally Posted by au2000

Xr every day of the week..
Yeah im one of those very rare ones who has no interest in a mustang really

Thats fair enough. I want to be a bit different hence the Mustang, but it seems to me they are more common than I thought. That said, I still love them.

Question for me is, can I get used to LHD? Will I be happy with it?

[au2000]

Important question.. partner drives a vw . Think i can get used to the euro indicator stalk ??
No freaking chance lol

[smoo]

Couldn’t pay me enough to do weddings.
Drunk people, women’s high heels and jewellery, men’s belt buckles etc.
wedding party throwing the doors open till they rebound off the stops. Grabbing at the upholstery to haul themselves out of the car.
Spilt drinks if wedding party insist on taking one for the road on the way to the venue.
Kids wanting to climb in or on the cars.
recipe for disaster.

As for resale, both will crash from current highs when the boomers cant drive them anymore with a heap end up on the market as only a fraction of their millennial kids have an interest in cars.

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Originally Posted by smoo

Couldn’t pay me enough to do weddings.
Drunk people, women’s high heels and jewellery, men’s belt buckles etc.
wedding party throwing the doors open till they rebound off the stops. Grabbing at the upholstery to haul themselves out of the car.
Spilt drinks if wedding party insist on taking one for the road on the way to the venue.
Kids wanting to climb in or on the cars.
recipe for disaster.

As for resale, both will crash from current highs when the boomers cant drive them anymore with a heap end up on the market as only a fraction of their millennial kids have an interest in cars.

Thanks for your insights mate. Didnt think of some of those things and I'd have to really consider these real life issues.

[blueoval]

Can people tell me, how accesible parts are for both a classic Mustang and classic falcons?

I know there are a number of places in Australia and US that do reproduction parts for mustangs. But what about 60's Falcons? Are there any places that do them and are they affordable?

[Citroënbender]

Mustang parts are probably cheaper, the routes to repair more well-trod. Any XR sedan that’s not a mint one-owner car is essentially a GT-in-waiting.

I think also the reselling of a Mustang if you didn’t like it, would be a little easier than a Flagon.

Agree with the thrust of Smoo’s remarks, it’s as though you cede proprietorial rights when some of these cars are in public places. Peoples’ levels of respect vary enormously.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by blueoval

Thanks for your insights mate. Didnt think of some of those things and I'd have to really consider these real life issues.

I wouldn’t really loose sleep over potential loss on resale.
If you buy to enjoy or admire.
After all people drop large sums on modern disposable cars/appliances that lose 50% after five years.
So even if you were to lose on resale for a classic it will be small change compared to a modern car.

Mustang parts pretty sure everything is replaceable from the likes of CJ pony parts, summit racing and rock auto.
At a guess some brake and suspension parts will cross over to the Falcons of the era?
Just bought a full 289 gasket set for $155.
Rear wheel cylinders for Mustang $9. Front caliper repair kits around $20, etc.

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Mustang parts are probably cheaper, the routes to repair more well-trod. Any XR sedan that’s not a mint one-owner car is essentially a GT-in-waiting.

I think also the reselling of a Mustang if you didn’t like it, would be a little easier than a Flagon.

Agree with the thrust of Smoo’s remarks, it’s as though you cede proprietorial rights when some of these cars are in public places. Peoples’ levels of respect vary enormously.

Getting parts is something that is a serious consideration. Access and price point between the 2 marques will be a large part of the decision.

Smoo's comments hit some home truths I need to weigh up. My attitude to the car regarding how people treat it will be at the fore front of my mind. How would I react if someone were to treat it like rubbish just because 'they paid for the hire'?

A large bond would have to be part of the arrangement. Im guessing insurance would then be massive due to using the car as a commercial application. Cleaning/soilage fee etc etc. Im guessing people may be turned off at the +++ items on top of the hire fee.

Man this is a reality check I didnt think I needed.

[pottery beige]

XR tough hotty streeter would be a win. Not so good if asking top dollar for a chuggy chuggy carrot diffed pos.

still better than a mustang

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Originally Posted by smoo

I wouldn’t really loose sleep over potential loss on resale.
If you buy to enjoy or admire.
After all people drop large sums on modern disposable cars/appliances that lose 50% after five years.
So even if you were to lose on resale for a classic it will be small change compared to a modern car.

Mustang parts pretty sure everything is replaceable from the likes of CJ pony parts, summit racing and rock auto.
At a guess some brake and suspension parts will cross over to the Falcons of the era?
Just bought a full 289 gasket set for $155.
Rear wheel cylinders for Mustang $9. Front caliper repair kits around $20, etc.

Thats the thing, resale isn't a huge issue for me. Just wanted to know out of curiosity.

The aftermarket parts supply seems to be plentiful due to how many Mustang cars were made and still around. Common yes they seem to be, by the looks of things. But could be more affordable to replace items in the long run?

Rare Spares seems to be the only mob that you can get some parts for 60s falcons. Depending on what you're looking for that is.

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

XR tough hotty streeter would be a win. Not so good if asking top dollar for a chuggy chuggy carrot diffed pos.

still better than a mustang

That's very true mate. The XR would be a stand out. Again, parts availability would be my only concern.

Mustangs still are a killer car for me for a long time.

[Swordie]

XR - It looks cool.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Swordie

XR - It looks cool.

Can never deny that. However I think Mustangs look cool too.

[FERG_51]

Got any pics Blue?

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Originally Posted by FERG_51

Got any pics Blue?

of the Mustang, no. I do have one of the XR but not sure Im allowed to post anything up.

Am waiting on one mustang I like that is currently being restored. Kind of picky on what I want there.

The XR I dont have any choice but resting the sentimentality of it.

[Sar4890]

Kill 2 birds with one stone get a two door 66 Falcon the only downside is the spare parts aren't as well supported as the Mustang and the Australian Falcon.

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Originally Posted by Sar4890

Kill 2 birds with one stone get a two door 66 Falcon the only downside is the spare parts aren't as well supported as the Mustang and the Australian Falcon.

I see what you're saying. However, access to parts at affordable prices is a big play for me.

[Franco Cozzo]

https://earlyfalconspares.com.au/

And Early Bird Falcon Parts in Thomastown (no website) carry a wide range of stuff for early Falcons.

It's going to be a specialist thing getting parts for an XR Falcon, it's not going to be a summit racing job like the Mustang but once you know where to look, it's not going to be a problem, plus there'll be some limited crossover.

Plus you also have this forum, there's enough people with grey hair coming out their ears on this forum who know **** from clay to help with chasing up parts.

You can still buy the speedo cable and brake cables from the original manufacturer, they're still around and they still have the original drawings.

Also when you're all dead none of us are going to give a **** about 1960s/1970s Falcons and Mustangs, so don't worry too much about resale value cause in 25-30 years it'll be worth scrap value, or no one will be able to drive it because unleaded cars will be banned

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by blueoval

…access to parts at affordable prices is a big play for me.

People really do overrate this need. What do you see as required that’s likely to be difficult in obtaining?

[FTE217]

Rares do alot of product for Xseries I find.
Anyway its how it is having a ol skool beast to me, you certainly can't expect most of the parts being at pricing of common high volume product, thats life.
Sourcing bits can be a pain but sooner or later searching or someone helps.

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Originally Posted by FTE217

Rares do alot of product for Xseries I find.
Anyway its how it is having a ol skool beast to me, you certainly can't expect most of the parts being at pricing of common high volume product, thats life.
Sourcing bits can be a pain but sooner or later searching or someone helps.

Yes true I agree, I will need to accept the fact that getting spares ect will be part and parcel of older cars.

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://earlyfalconspares.com.au/

And Early Bird Falcon Parts in Thomastown (no website) carry a wide range of stuff for early Falcons.

It's going to be a specialist thing getting parts for an XR Falcon, it's not going to be a summit racing job like the Mustang but once you know where to look, it's not going to be a problem, plus there'll be some limited crossover.

Plus you also have this forum, there's enough people with grey hair coming out their ears on this forum who know **** from clay to help with chasing up parts.

You can still buy the speedo cable and brake cables from the original manufacturer, they're still around and they still have the original drawings.

Also when you're all dead none of us are going to give a **** about 1960s/1970s Falcons and Mustangs, so don't worry too much about resale value cause in 25-30 years it'll be worth scrap value, or no one will be able to drive it because unleaded cars will be banned

This forum has always been my go to for a number of things. Since being a member in 2005, I tend to come here to banter, but now that Im looking at another Ford I will be picking everyones brains again.

I'll keep Early Bird Falcon Parts in mind.

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

People really do overrate this need. What do you see as required that’s likely to be difficult in obtaining?

Body parts is my biggest concern. Then things like crash pad and seat stuff. It's more of a 'just in case' situation of an accident etc.

[FTE217]

The pony isn't a prob for parts/panels everything ex USA as you'd know if not here.
The Falc as we know, some bits easy some not.
Like some of us TSeries owners and previous models, you start accumilating parts/bits that are hard to find for the "one day".........

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Originally Posted by FTE217

The pony isn't a prob for parts/panels everything ex USA as you'd know if not here.
The Falc as we know, some bits easy some not.
Like some of us TSeries owners and previous models, you start accumilating parts/bits that are hard to find for the "one day".........

Im guessing I will be collecting bits and pieces over time no matter the car. I used to do it with the Subaru's I had but didnt really need to being more modern cars and parts easier to get. But older cars I will need to start a collection I gather.

[fordomatic]

It seems like you are really set on the mustang, I think you should go the mustang.

For what it's worth, I'd take the XR given the choice. Only old mustang i'd own is an Eleanor mock up.

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

It seems like you are really set on the mustang, I think you should go the mustang.

For what it's worth, I'd take the XR given the choice. Only old mustang i'd own is an Eleanor mock up.

You could be right there mate. The Mustang is something Ive wanted for so long but the XR while its sentimental doesn't stir the emotions up the same way. That said Im not sure what decision I will take at this point until I inspect both vehicles in the flesh in detail.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

It seems like you are really set on the mustang, I think you should go the mustang.

For what it's worth, I'd take the XR given the choice. Only old mustang i'd own is an Eleanor mock up.

Then get sued by the rights holders and have your car confiscated in a copyright infringement fiasco

They only just won a lawsuit recently against the rights holders, as in December 2022

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...right-lawsuit/

Absolute clown show 🤡

[Bossxr8]

In terms of parts then the Mustang is probably the easiest classic car to get parts for anywhere in the world. You can literally buy anything you need on line, there are a tonne of parts suppliers for them.

Falcon, not so much.

[zipping]

My wife left a guy with an XR to go out with me, who had a Mustang.

Mustang wins with the ladies

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Originally Posted by zipping

My wife left a guy with an XR to go out with me, who had a Mustang.

Mustang wins with the ladies

in more ways than one by the sounds of it. I know my mrs is smitten with Mustangs.

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

In terms of parts then the Mustang is probably the easiest classic car to get parts for anywhere in the world. You can literally buy anything you need on line, there are a tonne of parts suppliers for them.

Falcon, not so much.

All valid points. I love the XR and kind of wish I had the room/coin to get both.