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Old 11-01-2008, 07:09 PM   #31
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TATA Nano is worth the same as what comes out of a cow's ar5e
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:12 PM   #32
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Hello $2.50 per litre for petrol.
Exactly. India and China are swallowing up the worlds oil supplies, this has the potential to significantly add to the problem if it takes off over there.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #33
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what a joke,hope no way the goverment agree to get this deft trap,in the country:not happy
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #34
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I could see a really cheap car like that improving emissions in a country such as Australia, it becomes a real alternative to a second hand car, especially for a single person, and it will be much less polluting, as it will comply with the latest emissions guidelines. 3.85l/100km highway isnt bad... (fore more specs, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano )
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:20 PM   #35
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what a joke,hope no way the goverment agree to get this deft trap,in the country:not happy
What's a Deft Trap?

Look, in all seriousness, I think they call it Natural Selection. It is the same for people buying Holwoo Barinas and Jiangling Landwinds. My only worry is what has already been stated, and that we are paying through the nose (and other orifices) for Fuel. I bet the Indian's don't pay $1.50 for fuel.
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What's a Deft Trap?

Look, in all seriousness, I think they call it Natural Selection. It is the same for people buying Holwoo Barinas and Jiangling Landwinds. My only worry is what has already been stated, and that we are paying through the nose (and other orifices) for Fuel. I bet the Indian's don't pay $1.50 for fuel.
petrol prices are about A$1.00-1.15 in India/Bangladesh/Pakistan.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:05 AM   #37
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America uses more than twice of both those countries combined!

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Exactly. India and China are swallowing up the worlds oil supplies, this has the potential to significantly add to the problem if it takes off over there.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:57 AM   #38
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:19 AM   #39
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I'd bargain down the price - "$2800.00??? Tell 'em he's dreamin' ".

A Nano ehhh? I wonder if Apple iPod are inerested in their model name being used here?

I don't really get these cars, this one and the Smart car, economicial and cheap to run (except the Smart car - far too expensive to purchase), over safety. Is buying a cheap tank of petrol more important than your safety?
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:09 AM   #40
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you know what I can get for 2800? Four EAs with a combined HP of something over 500 HP and way cooler to be seen cruising in as well safer. and I can stop and get a beef burger. I WIN!
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:00 AM   #41
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[edit] Car specifications
Engine: 2 cylinder petrol Bosch multi-point fuel injection (single injector) all aluminium 623 cc (38 cu in)
bore x stroke 73.5 X 73.5 mm
Compression ratio - 9.5:1
2 valves per cylinder overhead camshaft
Power: 33 PS (33 hp/24 kW) @ 5500 rpm[12]
Torque: 48 N·m (35 ft·lbf) @ 2500 rpm
Acceleration: 0-70 km/h (43 mph): 14 seconds
Maximum speed: 105 km/h (65 mph)[1]
Fuel economy (combined City + Highway): 20 kilometres per liter (5 L/100 km, 47 US mpg, 59 UK mpg)
Seat Belts: 2[13]
Trunk capacity: 150 L (5.3 cu ft)
Steering – mechanical rack and pinion
Front brake: disc[14]
Rear brake: drum
Front track: 1,325 mm (52.2 in)
Rear track: 1,315 mm (51.8 in)
Ground clearance: 180 mm (7.1 in)
Front suspension: McPherson strut with lower A arm
Rear suspension: Independent coil spring
Hold up! This doesn't have more sophisticated rear suspension than a Toyota Corolla does it??

Wow 0-70 in 14 seconds. I think the Government could solve the speeding problem overnight by importing this car.

Two cylinder cars is a scary thought. Imagine in a decades time a 2L four cylinder will seem like a monstrous gas guzzling beast. Better get the old Suzuki 3 cylinder 800cc hatchback out of the paddock and get ready for the future :togo:
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:21 AM   #42
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That price is amazing. It will have to pull down the prices of other smaller and used cars just like the Hyundais Excel did here.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:22 AM   #43
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You blokes going on about safety keep missing the point that these people put the husband, kid, wife, and baby all on one motor bike. That is all they have, and they make do.
The car will be safer than that. Not by much, but it will be.

But I know I'd never sit inside one - I wouldn't ride on a motorbike with 4 people either though...
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:57 AM   #44
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Yes but imagine how unsafe its going to be with half of India in cars and the other half 4 a top on motorcycles.
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America uses more than twice of both those countries combined!
I think you will find that China will soon be using more oil than anyone. Thats the reason the worlds oil supplies can't keep up now, because India and China who used very little before are now pushing demand for it beyond what can be supplied.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:13 AM   #46
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Their view on safety is notably different to western countries. Strangely enough they manage pretty well compared to our ridiculous 110km/h speed limits and micromanagement of our every action. We tend to take away all responsibility from the driver.

Whilst their accident rate is pretty high when compared to aus, the number of accidents relative to traffic and driving style is quite low. They have no speed limits on any of their roads.

Lot of ignorance in some of these posts about safety and power. How many of you people actually drive in heavy traffic? You would just be a poser driving a powerful car in dense trafffic.

There are a lot of powerful cars in this forum, but hardly any of them even get used to there potential (anything above 110-120km/h would be breaking the speed limit and a criminal according to our know it all government).
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:52 AM   #47
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with the car being so small and light could it be that hard to fit a small electric engine to this car and get 35hp?
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:50 PM   #48
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I doubt this would be any less safe than some used cars for a similar price. It has been built to crash standards so would probably crumple alot better than any Chinese offerings. I would rather this than some of the Chinese P.O.S's that currently exist, and this is quite funky and would work here.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:40 PM   #49
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more water proof than scooter and quite a bit safer than having baby on your shoulders ? some have missed the point of such a car !
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:48 PM   #50
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Not just for petrol, but china and india guzzle up oil for other products like plastics. Making a car so affordable could also force the price of oil up to well over $150.00 a barrel, meaning at the least $2.00 a litre here.

On a sidenote, the name of "the peoples car" wasn't very well thought out either. Didn't Hitler have "the peoples car" with the VW beetle?

Oh, and I don't think it would meet ADR's here so forget about that being sold here. Not to mention it being a moving road block. Now we know why all the indians by Camry's when they get here.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:02 PM   #51
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I hope they dont share this awesome technology with Jag
Yes it is a scarey thought that LandRover and Jaguar cars could have Tata as the new owners.
Sir William Lyons if still alive would be horrified of some cheap Indian car manufacture building Jags. BLC gave the Jag bad build quality and it took Ford to get quality and reliability together on Jags and now it wiil end up like the Rover SD1 in India as on this sellers site.

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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/22/t...rbq-in-mumbai/

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by Damon Lavrinc (RSS feed) on Mar 22nd 2010 at 7:27PM

Car fires are nothing new, but when it happens to the world's cheapest car on its way to its new home, the Tata Nano tends to lose its allure.

According to our friends at IndianAutosBlog, Satish Sawant, a Mumbai-based (irony alert) insurance agent, took delivery of his $2,500 hatchback, and while being chauffeured back to his house (Sawant doesn't have a license yet), a motorcyclist overtook him and pointed to the rear of his new baby. At which point, the driving duo noticed flames coming from the rear. Says Sawant, "I have no idea what happened... The engine was behind me and I did not realize the car was on fire."

This is apparently the second incident of a Nano catching fire, which, along with a recent spate of electrical issues, has some questioning the quality of the budget runabout. Naturally, today's lesson is: You get what you pay for.


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How long before they are on Top Gear UK hitting a huge soccer ball around?
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Fairly ugly looking little "car" but probably highly practical in places like India.
Definately safer having your family in that than piled up on a scooter.
Saw that plenty of times when I was in the Middle East and it really doesn't look safe!
If someone sneezed, it could just throw you off balance...!!!
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look in the crystal ball 50 years into the future (plays twilight zone sound track) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG2...eature=related
the car we may all be driving :
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KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!

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March 24, 2010 by Matt Brogan

We knew the Tata Nano was hot property in India, but spontaneously bursting in to flames might be taking things a bit too far.

Indian insurance agent Satish Sawant, had just taken delivery of his new Tata Nano in Prabhadevi, Mumbai. But as Mr Sawant couldn’t drive, he arranged for a chauffeur to deliver the car to his home.

Riding in the passenger seat, Mr Sawant noticed a motorcyclist signaling for he and his driver to pull over. They got out just in time to see the Nano engulfed in flames.

“I have no idea what happened. A motorcycle rider overtook me and told me that the vehicle was on fire,” Mr Sawant explained.

“The engine was behind me and I did not realise that the car was on fire.”

Mr Sawant had just spent the equivalent of AUD$5750 on the top-spec Nano which featured metallic paint, air conditioning and power windows. The local fire department was called and put the blaze out a short time later.

“This is a unique case. We are trying to figure out what went wrong,” said a spokesperson for Tata Motors.

But just how unique is it? CarAdvice are now aware of four such fiery incidents, three of which occurred when the Nano was left idling for an extended period of time (in Ahmedabad, Lucknow and Delhi). The fourth incident in Mumbai yesterday is the only case yet reported while the vehicle was in motion.

The incidents suggest the engine’s rear-mounted position and air-cooling system may be the reason behind the fires.

CarAdvice will keep you posted.

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How fitting. I was in India for a few weeks in Jan this year and looked out for the Nano. To be honest, there weren't that many around!

I did find one while walking the streets of Varanasi, and took a closer look. I must say, the design was simple yet effective, and the rear seats had a HEAP of leg room... like around 30cm! I took a few pics from across the road but didn't want to be seen pointing the camera into the cabin etc. This was the time when the Indian media were dragging Aussies through the mud day after day so it was best to keep a low profile when alone...







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Base model

At its launch the Nano was available in three trim levels:[11]

* the basic Tata Nano Std priced at 123,000 Rupees has no extras;
* the deluxe Tata Nano CX at 151,000 Rupees has air conditioning;
* the luxury Tata Nano LX at 172,000 Rupees has air conditioning, power windows, fabric seats and central locking
* the Nano Europa, European version of the Tata Nano has all of the above plus a larger body, bigger 3-cylinder engine, anti-lock braking system (ABS) and meets European crash standards and emission norms.
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Comparison to the Model T

Many have compared the Nano with Henry Ford's Model T launched exactly 100 years earlier, in 1908. While the Model T initially cost $850 (equivalent to $20,091 today), Ford refined the assembly line process and by the 1920s, the price of Ford's Model T had fallen to $290 (equivalent to $3,191 today), comparable to the release price of the Nano at US$2,171 as of October 2009.

Livemint said:
“ Ford Motor Co. is rich because Henry Ford used the assembly-line to produce the Model T in 1908. Ratan Tata is a late entrepreneur, making the Nano in 2008.

India is 100 years behind. But we are waking up to the possibility of catching up. I just hope our planners wake up soon.”

Times of India also compared the Nano to the Model T:

“ This raises the question: How have the Tatas accomplished such a task? Pursuing this question a fascinating story unfolds that reminds one of Henry Ford's Model T that was built exactly one hundred years ago (September 1908). Ford wanted to make a car for the multitude, not for the elite, with the best material and the best design that the technology of his time could devise, and he wanted to make it, above all, at a price that was affordable. This is the example that Ratan Tata has followed with determination. When he announced the price of his car in an interview to the Financial Times during the Geneva Motor Show, his colleagues were 'aghast', but he had set his goal.
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